Fun Trivial factoids

[ZenRaiden]

The gold mine and town were named after the Sanskrit good-luck symbol swastika

During World War II, the provincial government removed the Swastika sign and replaced it with a sign renaming the town "Winston." The residents removed the Winston sign[7] and replaced it with a Swastika sign with the message, "To hell with Hitler, we came up with our name first."[8]

 

[Cognisant]

I think I read somewhere that the Ukrainians were thankful to the Nazis for saving them from the Russians, hence why Nazi iconography shows up in counter-culture conservative circles.

So yes there's an element of Ukrainians who are to some extent pro-Nazi.

It's hard to be a dick to everyone all the time, even for a Nazi, a lot of shit went down in WWII and all sides did terrible things, and some good things, because people are people and not characters in a Disney movie.

Does this justify the Russian invasion? No, not in the slightest.
Having read up on the Holodomor I'm not surprised the Ukrainians are hostile towards Russia, Stalin was their Hitler, he tried to genocide them.

You realize we all think you're a useful idiot for Putin right? You're literally trying to justify the actions of the Hitler of our time, indeed you admit it yourself that Putin's endgame is to win the war by the eradication of the Ukrainian people.

What I don't get is where your stake in this is, do you live in Russia, are you some oligarch's son, or do you just hate NATO so much that it's an enemy-of-my-enemy kinda thing. If so I can respect that, even if your motivations are utterly ruthless.

Or are you just some dope with no stake in the matter who is defending the Russian cause because you've been ideologically captured? What do you believe, if you had a geopolitical genie what would you wish for?

 

[birdsnestfern]

 

[dr froyd]

Having read up on the Holodomor I'm not surprised the Ukrainians are hostile towards Russia, Stalin was their Hitler, he tried to genocide them.

even if we assume that holodomor was specifically designed to genocide ukranians, the fact is that far-right nationalism was embedded into ukranian independence movements even before that, going back to organizations like OUN in 1920s.

this is why you see swastikas in ukraine - ukranian independence always took a liking to fascism, and this tendency resurfaced when the soviet union collapsed. I don't really know how widespread it is there now, but it is a plain fact that derivatives of OUN - which was clearly a fascist organization - became official political parties after 1990.

 

[ZenRaiden]

I think I read somewhere that the Ukrainians were thankful to the Nazis for saving them from the Russians, hence why Nazi iconography shows up in counter-culture conservative circles.

Just for clarity sake, this is Canada. I was researching some stuff, and came across some funny stuff, so Id wanted to share the chuckle.

You realize we all think you're a useful idiot for Putin right?

I know, and I don't care if people think I am idiot. I prefer it that way, less expectations.
Every king needs a laugh, and maybe a little truth with that. After all whats a lord who cannot laugh at his own folly.

 

[ZenRaiden]

I don't really know how widespread

Very much, else why fight to be independent of NATO, Russia, and EU.
These people are ultra nationalist, they are much like Kim Yong UN in this respect.
They would unionize everything, and declare a Ukraine kingdom if they could.
They are literally running the show.
How I know. Because we have the same people in my country. You know nazis, virtually all nations have them including Britain.
The fact people are somehow in denial about UA not having nazis, is showing the lack of common sense understanding of politics.
I have been surprised by very smart people on utube saying there are no nazis there.

Lucky the nazis in my country who even got into parliament went to prison actually, but many people here vote nazis like there is no tomorrow.
Common feature of nazis are They hate gypsies, they don't want to take orders from any group or organization, they are socialist in economics, and they want to limit freedom of speech and rewrite history.

Given how the economy is going in Europe they will be prominent people soon. People are tired of being poor.

 

[Black Rose]

“I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia. It is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma: but perhaps there is a key. That key is Russian national interests.”
Winston Churchill (British Orator, Author and Prime Minister during World War II. 1874-1965)

People can think of any ethnicity as bad because of the actions of its government.

But to be clear a government is not the same as its people, not necessarily.

People can hate Russians if they like but a cultural history makes shared values more important than having any specific leader in charge.

The consequences of what actions people take define what others will think of them so anything that has been done by an establishment must align with those consequences.

If the Russians don't like what their government did they might be unable to stop their government because it just is not possible to influence powers that don't adhere to democratic principles.

Meaning that in the interests of themselves, the powerful keep their power by any means necessary. This has been Russian history since the Zars.

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The people who make decisions matter, but then those who have power make the decisions. Wars are always elites vs. elites. Common people don't have power in those systems.

 

[ZenRaiden]

Wars are always elites vs. elites. Common people don't have power in those systems.

Exactly, and people buy into the illusion of democracy too much.
Democracy has limits, and when it comes to war it becomes clear people have no say in it. If they did who the hell would even fight these dumb wars.. lol

 

[Black Rose]

we have the same people in my country. You know nazis, virtually all nations have them including Britain.

That is because of genetics.

You know, that thing that gives people their personality?

One of the reasons people can distinguish left and right politics in the USA is that:

extreme lefties believe humans can be conditioned to become anything

the extreme right believes in the divine right of kings (the best breeds dominate)

the left believes education can fix any mental dysfunction

the right believe you just need to work harder or you are lazy and don't deserve it

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In my case, people think I am mentally ill so I am supposed to take medications.

True but the thing is that psycharity is an ideology, not a science.

They diagnose you: with "paper" tests, not blood tests nor brain scans.

real science would see the biological and chemical reasons for brain dysfunction. Curing brain dysfunction would require genetic engineering, proper foods, and proper chemicals, but then they would take away my welfare benefits.

You take medications that don't work because they don't know what works, until they find something that does work. In other words, they experiment on you.

The options are: go along with it or become homeless.

because psychiatry is a left-wing ideology. not science.

 

[birdsnestfern]

Nah, psychology isn't left wing. Its not political.

 

[Black Rose]

Nah, psychology isn't left wing. Its not political.

psychiatry

not

psychology

 

[Black Rose]