Flocking INTPs

[nihilen.]

For this great joy you have brought us, you are acquitted of all charges.

Muchas gracias.

 

[nihilen.]

If love exonerates you, you are exonerated indeed!

@nihilen. -

My apologies if I misjudged you. I was in a foul mood yesterday and should have just kept it to myself. I envisioned someone who was sitting at his computer laughing at us and trying to make sport of us here, but perhaps I was wrong.

I think if you got banned at INTPc, you might be welcome here. They seem to have more than their fair share of assholes over there.

(And before anyone says it, no, I am not one of their assholes because I don't post there. I am entirely intpforum's asshole! )

No problem at all mate, I am very quick to judge, and I did actually judge you all pretty hastily , so I have no right to complain ; )

 

[Jesin]

Hmm. Bad first impressions all around, but we seem to have gotten past that! Yay!

And no, that was not the Thomas Young to whom AI referred. Thomas Young was a particularly rude and unhelpful member on this forum who we finally banned a couple of weeks before your arrival. I think we were still a little raw from that, which may have contributed to our initial reaction to you.

Flame war averted!

 

[Agent Intellect]

is that picture the Thomas Young that did the double slit experiment?

 

[Devercia]

Except for the grammar part( I don't think I suck(at grammar) that bad(ly.))

Fixed :P

I was being facicious(is that the right word or spelling? This thread has me paranoid) from the start.

Posted from a phone.

 

[severus]

Do I know another INTP? No. I feel certain that there are some lurking about close to me, but we will never find each other. My friend (down to just the one now) is ENFP. I enjoy her. I also knew an INTJ. I had a love/hate relationship with him.

I would not say I "flock" to anyone. Rather I cautiously reach out, then draw back in never to move beyond passing comments that are usually complaints about assignments or being cold. No one is actively flocking to me.

 

[INTPINFP]

i believe the personality mbti system is rubbish. all of us have traits from different categories. It's just a silly way of categorizing people and a way of laziness.

look at my username. see it lists all the different personalities i have

 

[Decaf]

i believe the personality mbti system is rubbish. all of us have traits from different categories. It's just a silly way of categorizing people and a way of laziness.

look at my username. see it lists all the different personalities i have

It seems you don't have much exposure to the theory. There are several threads in which I explain that very distinction, but rather than go into that again (if you were curious you could do a little digging) I will just say that your confidence betrays your ignorance. Maybe all you want is an explanation for how that is accounted for in the theory. If that's the case, please ask. Most of us came to this theory with doubts, so I understand the hesitance, but please, when you're in someone else's house a little politeness goes a long way.

 

[severus]

i believe the personality mbti system is rubbish. all of us have traits from different categories. It's just a silly way of categorizing people and a way of laziness.

look at my username. see it lists all the different personalities i have

Oh dear. Well see, MBTI does not claim you are 100% INTP (or whatever type you are). It is just saying that you generally favour I over E and N over S, etc.; also, that because of these individual preferences, your behavioural tendancies can be predicted.

But my knowledge on the MBTI is rather limited, so perhaps someone else would like to add or correct?

*Ahh, Decaf you beat me to replying and now I feel bad for falling for what might have been purposeful obnoxiousness as a lure for information.

**And, You, you should have made your sn XXXX. Much nicer while still getting your misguided point across.

 

[sagewolf]

i believe the personality mbti system is rubbish. all of us have traits from different categories. It's just a silly way of categorizing people and a way of laziness.

look at my username. see it lists all the different personalities i have

I used to think that about personality tests in general, a few years ago. I left it for a few years and came back to things like the enneagram and MBTI, but this time I didn't think it's so stupid. The difference, I think, is that then I didn't know what sort of person I was, so I didn't like some type system trying to tell me. I was too independently-minded.

Thing is, when I came to them with some idea of who I was, I actually agreed that, yes, I'm a 5w4 and an INTP. I already knew all this stuff about myself, so it meant sense: I could recognise the aspects of the type in my personality without feeling like I was being told something. (...Where did my coherence go? Out the bloody window? Did that make any sense at all?! )

 

[Ogion]

You did make sense. It was similar with me. The first time i took the mbti, i thought, well, just out of these few questions i get to be told what person i am? Beyond what i say about these questions? And only/exactly 16 types??

then i did it, got INTP, and upon reading the profiles i thought: Yep, that's me! Would it have typed me wrong, i guess i would have discarded it quickly.

Ogion

 

[INTPINFP]

I used to think that about personality tests in general, a few years ago. I left it for a few years and came back to things like the enneagram and MBTI, but this time I didn't think it's so stupid. The difference, I think, is that then I didn't know what sort of person I was, so I didn't like some type system trying to tell me. I was too independently-minded.

Thing is, when I came to them with some idea of who I was, I actually agreed that, yes, I'm a 5w4 and an INTP. I already knew all this stuff about myself, so it meant sense: I could recognise the aspects of the type in my personality without feeling like I was being told something. (...Where did my coherence go? Out the bloody window? Did that make any sense at all?! )

well i simply dont believe it is a healthful practice force a molded identity into one's ego

 

[severus]

You do have a point there actually; some will inevitably fall into the trap of blaming their faults on their personality instead of working to improve themselves. This is arguable though, as I mostly believe that we have no free will, we are what we are, people don't/rarely change, etc. I think I missed my point here so I'll stop.

 

[sagewolf]

...I think people can change themselves to an extent: I could probably learn to open up more and express myself around others. I probably won't ever learn to be comfortable doing it, but I could learn to overcome the discomfort.

You do have a point there actually; some will inevitably fall into the trap of blaming their faults on their personality instead of working to improve themselves.

That's their problem. xD If I can manage to be serious for half a second, I'll agree with you whole-heartedly. Knowing that that thing you're bad at is actually a shadow function and not terribly important to your personality is not a license to say, 'Oh, so I'm supposed to be bad at that. I'll ignore that aspect of life then: I have an excuse to be useless at it.' It's a sign that it's an aspect of your life that needs MORE work than the other ones.

well i simply dont believe it is a healthful practice force a molded identity into one's ego

...But that wasn't what I did. Types like that are a guide to helping you better yourself, a useful way of explaining your personality to others if you have trouble articulating it yourself, a way of understanding the way your mind works better, or at the lowest, a useless piece of trivia. It's not a method of self-discovery. IMO.

 

[Agent Intellect]

the problem with knowing the description of what your personality is "supposed" to be like is it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. after reading the descriptions, i knew that a lot of them sounded just like me, but after finding out that that was what my type supposedly is, i became even more INTP then i was before. i started acting the way i thought an INTP should instead of how I would (fortunately those are the same 85% of the time).

 

[Auburn]

the problem with knowing the description of what your personality is "supposed" to be like is it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. after reading the descriptions, i knew that a lot of them sounded just like me, but after finding out that that was what my type supposedly is, i became even more INTP then i was before. i started acting the way i thought an INTP should instead of how I would (fortunately those are the same 85% of the time).

hmmmm...

It was interesting because, when I first read the description, most everything an INTP does is what I do - and those few things which I don't do that are typical of an INTP, I realized that I would do if I had not been raised in hindering life circumstances. My culture, etc, bent me in such a way so than not everything applied to me perfectly, but it would if I was allowed to be completely myself. With me, I feel more confort being more INTP now than I was when I first learned about the MBTI, because I've loosed the chains of culture and allowed myself to be more like who I really am. The MBTI has most definitely added fuel to my non-conformism! and also to self-actualization.

 

[NoID10ts]

I'm finding that before I knew I was INTP, I thought some of these attributes were symptoms of depression. Now I realize that some of this crazy shit is not depression but my personality. Examples: losing interest in things, living inside my head, seeing the possibilty of absolute doom! It's all me, baby! No medication is going to fix it!

This can be a bit depressing.

 

[Agent Intellect]

i'm not saying its all a bad thing. i used to think that the way i was was wrong, that something was the matter with me, but its good to know (no matter how much i like individuality) that i'm not the only one. (then again, theres still a lot of individuality, since one of the main past times on this all INTP forum is arguing).

 

[sagewolf]

And that's because INTPs like to argue, but since there are so few of us it's almost impossible to find someone to argue with. Which is one of the reasons why we 'flock.'

 

[anemian]

I came across an INTP before and we made so so friends. To be honest the most that I got out of the relationship was meeting other people I got along with and bringing the few of my friends over and having a larger group.

My closest friends were probably along the lines of INTJ, ENFJ, and INFJ.
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I also can break the mold. I don't like but still enjoy giving public speeches even though I'm very introverted. It's a time where you can say anything you like and people have to listen to your full story and argument before overpowering your voice.

And I can also pull INTJ stuff out of my emotional tool box with only a little bit of stress on me. Though I always do have the INTJ external confidence thingy all the time.

 

[severus]

I'm finding that before I knew I was INTP, I thought some of these attributes were symptoms of depression. Now I realize that some of this crazy shit is not depression but my personality. Examples: losing interest in things, living inside my head, seeing the possibilty of absolute doom! It's all me, baby! No medication is going to fix it!

This can be a bit depressing.

Not having depression, depressing?
Rather off-topic:
Do INTPs develop more slowly than other types? As far as functions, obviously. I don't remember where I heard this, so maybe I made it up..

 

[sagewolf]

I've never read that, but I definitely remember reading that the Fe shadow takes until adulthood or middle age to fully mature. Still, judging from the 'How do you feel emotions' thread, that's because we're all empty inside, filled with voids and unwilling to let ourselves express what emotion we do have without analyzing it logically at the exact same time.

 

[EloquentBohemian]

My emotions are a Klein bottle.