Finally watched Pulp Fiction : Can you relate to Vincent Vega?

[pjoa09]

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If you didn't watch it I can't help you. You have now read some material that may ruin your experience with an IMDB's top ten movie. I think it is, I am not going to bother to check. Actually there seem to be extremely few spoilers.

It is quite a movie. High Def, on my 15 inch laptop screen.

To the point.

I find my self being able to relate to the character Vincent Vega a lot.

I don't make as many stupid mistakes as he did in the movie.

I do however relate to his constant need to argue with Jules and his perspective.

I do relate to how he explains that he's about to blow up and how he calmly expresses it.

I do relate to how he actually talks things through.

I do relate to that need for someone to be a little polite and neat.

I do relate to how he stands back and takes or tries to take the beta role in almost all circumstances.

Yes, the 'I do' is redundant but I think it makes the points clear.

Vincent Vega has been typed as ISTP and ESTP however I relate to him far too much. He's almost IXTP or INTP. Or am I ISTP?



Anyone relate to VIncent Vega?

 

[Jennywocky]

Vincent Vega has been typed as ISTP and ESTP however I relate to him far too much. He's almost IXTP or INTP. Or am I ISTP?

Anyone relate to VIncent Vega?

I do not relate to him at all, nor scan him as an N at all. He seems very S. (In fact, I think if he were more N, he wouldn't have ended up... where he ended up. He was rather bad at seeing where certain paths would lead him.)

All the things you describe might make him more of a floater/P type than a J, though. You could get a similar persona out of an ISFP (among others).

Great movie, btw.

 

[Absurdity]

Definitely an S. Doesn't understand Jules' whole speech at the end about witnessing an act of god. Generally fails to see the larger picture throughout the movie.

Definitely a P, though, and definitely an introvert. I would guess ISTP.

Jules is probably an ENTP, maybe an ENTJ.

EDIT: I personally relate to Jules more.

 

[Vrecknidj]

I do not relate to him at all, nor scan him as an N at all.

I have the same response.

 

[pjoa09]

Word on word?

I was half hoping someone could relate to the Ti.

@Jennywocky Well unless he decided to 'walk the earth' I don't think he would've made it. The job he had was bound to make him meet his end early. But seriously, not a hint? I mean I at least would say he was rolling on heavy Ti.

@Absurdity I thought Jules was ENFJ or something. When he gets cornered in an argument he claims he's angry. He believes in being right, the right that is beneficial to mankind. He believes in God and thinks God spoke to him. As brilliant as the performance was, he's not the kind of guy I'd like to be friends with.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I see him as emotionally cool, in control / smooth, and somewhat stubborn.

I relate to the emotionally cool part, but not the others. If I narrowly escaped death in a profession such as their's, I'd take it as a sign to quit while I was ahead like Jules. His death is ironic, because he was almost literally "caught with his pants down".

ISTP would be my guess also, and for Jules something like ENFJ, ISFJ or ESTJ.

 

[pjoa09]

I see him as emotionally cool, in control / smooth, and somewhat stubborn.

I relate to the emotionally cool part, but not the others. If I narrowly escaped death in a profession such as their's, I'd take it as a sign to quit while I was ahead like Jules. His death is ironic, because he was almost literally "caught with his pants down".

ISTP would be my guess also, and for Jules something like ENFJ, ISFJ or ESTJ.

I think Jules was clearly overreacting to such an incident.

I'd take it as a sign to be more professional at work. Start protocols to insure the security of the situations I am getting myself into.

I am sure when someone has a near miss accident that could have killed someone they don't take the bus from that day on. They just get a little more careful.

I think what I am relating with Vincent is his constant correction of his words and other peoples words. I think he is a strong introverted thinker and that is what I relate to.

 

[Jennywocky]

I think Jules was clearly overreacting to such an incident.

I'd take it as a sign to be more professional at work. Start protocols to insure the security of the situations I am getting myself into.

I am sure when someone has a near miss accident that could have killed someone they don't take the bus from that day on. They just get a little more careful.
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I think what I am relating with Vincent is his constant correction of his words and other peoples words. I think he is a strong introverted thinker and that is what I relate to.

That trait can apply to more than one type. Plus he doesn't show other behavior associated with intp.

Plus...he goes out to parties. And has social contacts. And dances.

I haven't watched the movie for awhile now, I just remember not really relating to him. I tend to do poorly with thinker types who have NO vision, and I felt like Vincent was very entrenched -- a nitpicker who obsesses over irrelevancies, and pays the price for being sloppy. Not that I would trust Jules either (my dealings with the "religiously driven" is that they are safe only as long as their god is not telling them to kill you or screw you over, and then you have no chance in hell of convincing them otherwise), but he seemed to see a bigger picture.

 

[Architect]

I haven't watched the movie for awhile now, I just remember not really relating to him. I tend to do poorly with thinker types who have NO vision, and I felt like Vincent was very entrenched -- a nitpicker who obsesses over irrelevancies, and pays the price for being sloppy. Not that I would trust Jules either (my dealings with the "religiously driven" is that they are safe only as long as their god is not telling them to kill you or screw you over, and then you have no chance in hell of convincing them otherwise), but he seemed to see a bigger picture.

Yup. Vincent was a likable, but not too bright character in my opinion.

 

[Absurdity]

@Absurdity I thought Jules was ENFJ or something. When he gets cornered in an argument he claims he's angry. He believes in being right, the right that is beneficial to mankind. He believes in God and thinks God spoke to him. As brilliant as the performance was, he's not the kind of guy I'd like to be friends with.

I think you might be on to something. Ni makes a lot of sense for Jules' fascination with the supernatural. Fe would also explain how he handled the robbery at the diner. INFJ or ENFJ would probably be a better fit than what I suggested.

It's been a while since I sat down and watched the whole thing, but I have plans to either today or tomorrow.

 

[pjoa09]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpXoCmwZANU

@Jennywocky I think nitpicking is just introverted thinking gone bad. This argument between Jules and Vincent is what I relate to. I guess I made a bad call. No one else seems to see it either. I am just saying I see at least a fat introverted thinking process devouring him. I relate to that.


@Architect I think in general all the characters are their own stupid stereotype. Clearly no one was using their heads in the movie and that is the point. I can go in the details but I think it's quite clear especially after Butch's sentimentality nearly got the best of him.

@Absurdity Yeah, I am pretty strong on calling Jules an ENFJ, my brother is an ENFJ and he royally pisses me off exactly that way. lol They always think they are rightfully obligated to help mankind. They tend to not notice how extreme their view is time to time. I am speaking off my brother and Jules, whom I have typed on my own so obviously I could be wrong.

 

[Jennywocky]

I think nitpicking is just introverted thinking gone bad. This argument between Jules and Vincent is what I relate to. I guess I made a bad call. No one else seems to see it either. I am just saying I see at least a fat introverted thinking process devouring him. I relate to that.

Maybe The Gimp was an INTP. That's why they locked him in that stupid box and put a zipper on his lips, to stop all his crazy talk.

Were there any "N" types in that movie? Aside from maybe Jules, if he is ENFJ? There were a HELLUVALOTTA Sensors.

 

[pjoa09]

Maybe The Gimp was an INTP. That's why they locked him in that stupid box and put a zipper on his lips, to stop all his crazy talk.

Were there any "N" types in that movie? Aside from maybe Jules, if he is ENFJ? There were a HELLUVALOTTA Sensors.

Mr. Wolf and the guy who shot at Jules and Vincent but missed. That guy had a perfect plan but he just couldn't hold a gun straight. Just speculating.

The Gimp was one hell of a trip. I doubt INTPs would make good gimps.

 

[own8ge]

Vincent: ISTP - Ti Se Ni Fe (85 percent sure)
Very obv. i.e. Look how he responds to wolf with: Please would be nice..

Jules: INTP - Ti Ne Si Fe (I'm 90 percent sure)
Every characteristic of it.
He may seem like a J type, but is definitely not. Note that in his conversations to Vincent it may seem like Jules is close minded; which is actually his clarification towards Se. Also know that he is not a kid anymore, he has likely developed his functions rather well.
He has an intelligent sentence he says before killing someone.

-Also perfect example. How he sets his future to walk the earth.
*The conversation begins with Vincent saying Jules is wrong and that it was a freak occurrence. Then Jules asking Vincent questions like "What is a miracle Vincent?" -This seems like "Vincent is thinking: I know the right answers and I will give it to you!" Which is... how INTP's are often being sensed by others. Whilst the point is that Jules really is curious to Vincent's standpoint. But Vincent shall explain his standpoint to be weighed against Jules(His own) standpoint and when that's done, Vincent can then Clarify himself.

*Definitely not Se, cause his thought is not accepted by Vincent, and Jules doesn't reconcile because of that.
*He keeps on clarifying to Vincent.
*He is saying it with Ti dominance! (Not Ni or Fe)

JUST watch that scene! and tell me he is not INTP!(and that Vincent is not ISTP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YujYTVQ4_S0

If you don't agree with any of the personality types I've given to them, Please discuss. I'd like that.

Whatever type Jules objectively may be... Will be my type as well. This is even though subjectively I'm 100 percent sure I'm INTP

I can't relate at all with Vincent.(Relate as in: To see myself in him.) But I do can relate him towards an ISTP mate I have.

 

[pjoa09]

Vincent: ISTP - Ti Se Ni Fe (85 percent sure)
Very obv. i.e. Look how he responds to wolf with: Please would be nice..

Jules: INTP - Ti Ne Si Fe (I'm 90 percent sure)
Every characteristic of it.
He may seem like a J type, but is definitely not. Note that in his conversations to Vincent it may seem like Jules is close minded; which is actually his clarification towards Se. Also know that he is not a kid anymore, he has likely developed his functions rather well.
He has an intelligent sentence he says before killing someone.

-Also perfect example. How he sets his future to walk the earth.
*The conversation begins with Vincent saying Jules is wrong and that it was a freak occurrence. Then Jules asking Vincent questions like "What is a miracle Vincent?" -This seems like "Vincent is thinking: I know the right answers and I will give it to you!" Which is... how INTP's are often being sensed by others. Whilst the point is that Jules really is curious to Vincent's standpoint. But Vincent shall explain his standpoint to be weighed against Jules(His own) standpoint and when that's done, Vincent can then Clarify himself.

*Definitely not Se, cause his thought is not accepted by Vincent, and Jules doesn't reconcile because of that.
*He keeps on clarifying to Vincent.
*He is saying it with Ti dominance! (Not Ni or Fe)

JUST watch that scene! and tell me he is not INTP!(and that Vincent is not ISTP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YujYTVQ4_S0

If you don't agree with any of the personality types I've given to them, Please discuss. I'd like that.

Whatever type Jules objectively may be... Will be my type as well. This is even though subjectively I'm 100 percent sure I'm INTP

I can't relate at all with Vincent.(Relate as in: To see myself in him.) But I do can relate him towards an ISTP mate I have.

One major characteristic of INTPs, that I have noticed in most INTPs is the denial of god. Out here long arguments go on about how god does not exist and everyone complains about that guy who tried to convince me otherwise. To really believe in God you need some introverted intuition.

This Jules is all over the place talking about how he felt the touch of god, pigs are filthy, and he experienced a miracle. How is that INTP?

I relate to Vincent because he spends most of his time trying to be the backdrop and constantly pokes on the logic of Jules faith. Giving certain scenarios, i.e. 'would you consider a dog filthy?'. He likes to make discussions not rig them with an agenda.

I can't see Jules as remotely even INTP simply because he takes the lead and strongly believes in God. I also think it's fairly retarded to stop doing what you are doing because it got a bit close. I mean seriously, he walked into the job knowing the damn risks he isn't some accountant who occasionally has the walls behind him riddled with bullets. He is a hitman.

 

[snafupants]

The Wolf! An ENTJ for sure, like Tarantino.

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I don't need you to tell me how fucking good my coffee is, okay? I'm the one who buys it. I know how good it is. When Bonnie goes shopping she buys SHIT. I buy the gourmet expensive stuff because when I drink it I want to taste it. But you know what's on my mind right now? It AIN'T the coffee in my kitchen, it's the dead nigger in my garage.

Spoiler

That line irritates Spike Lee to no end.

 

[own8ge]

One major characteristic of INTPs, that I have noticed in most INTPs is the denial of god. Out here long arguments go on about how god does not exist and everyone complains about that guy who tried to convince me otherwise. To really believe in God you need some introverted intuition.

This Jules is all over the place talking about how he felt the touch of god, pigs are filthy, and he experienced a miracle. How is that INTP?

I relate to Vincent because he spends most of his time trying to be the backdrop and constantly pokes on the logic of Jules faith. Giving certain scenarios, i.e. 'would you consider a dog filthy?'. He likes to make discussions not rig them with an agenda.

I can't see Jules as remotely even INTP simply because he takes the lead and strongly believes in God. I also think it's fairly retarded to stop doing what you are doing because it got a bit close. I mean seriously, he walked into the job knowing the damn risks he isn't some accountant who occasionally has the walls behind him riddled with bullets. He is a hitman.

I always was EXTREMELY resistant to the concept of god. But later in my life (Still young) I started meditating and changing my thoughts by accepting concepts I normally never would. Choosing pathways of thoughts, that I normally would be to stubborn to do so. I think it has to do with Fe development, not Ni. And the people that will resist the concept of god and brag about it, will most likely be ISTP. Not INTP. But even if it's an INTP, it's an unsure INTP; thus a Possible believer. I believe that God exists. I also believe God doesn't exist. And yes, That is possible to do so.

And there are a shitload of INTP's that believe in something. Also note that the definition of God may differ!!!!!!! If you consider a concept of God as irrational, then change the concept to your own subjective logic where it DOES make sense.

So saying INTP = Atheïst, makes very little sense.

 

[pjoa09]

I always was EXTREMELY resistant to the concept of god. But later in my life (Still young) I started meditating and changing my thoughts by accepting concepts I normally never would. Choosing pathways of thoughts, that I normally would be to stubborn to do so. I think it has to do with Fe development, not Ni. And the people that will resist the concept of god and brag about it, will most likely be ISTP. Not INTP. But even if it's an INTP, it's an unsure INTP; thus a Possible believer. I believe that God exists. I also believe God doesn't exist. And yes, That is possible to do so.

And there are a shitload of INTP's that believe in something. Also note that the definition of God may differ!!!!!!! If you consider a concept of God as irrational, then change the concept to your own subjective logic where it DOES make sense.

So saying INTP = Atheïst, makes very little sense.

Whoa, that escalated quickly.


I am pretty sure there is a poll that shows most members of INTPf are atheists or agnostic.

You are a person who self-typed as an INTP going through a phase. I am not even sure if I am an INTP (ISTPs highlighted my extroverted intuition) but I think this forum makes it quite clear that the typical INTP is an atheist. As far as I can note there is only Da Blob who is Christian and he constantly gets into massive discussions/arguments.

I actually tried very hard to keep my inherited religion and my observations/knowledge in harmony, but there were far too many inconsistencies in that model.

I am sorry but it seems like you haven't witnessed the intergalactic arguments against religion on this forum.

I visited the ISTP forum and no one even bothers. They are rather disinterested in anything related to religon or philosophy.

 

[snafupants]

And the people that will resist the concept of god and brag about it, will most likely be ISTP. Not INTP.

What is that even predicated upon?!

The Se auxiliary function of ISTPs?

 

[own8ge]

What is that even predicated upon?!

The Se auxiliary function of ISTPs?

No, experience.