Extrapolation of Cognitive Type

[Black Rose]

I have come to some realizations recently as to what Jungian functions actual are so I will present them here.

The brain has associations connected by emotion and consciously or subconsciously manipulates them or recalls them in relationship to each other. Rational functions manipulate consciously, irrational unconsciously. The content of the psyche must be brought from the subconscious to the conscious. Thinking is where the content is data in working memory that is impersonal. Feeling is personal and has body awareness proprioception but is also able to be in working memory but when someone has thinking preference nothing is "felt". Extroverted feeling is the associations one has to others in expression of affect or they know how they affect the affect of others. Introverted Feeling is private as to how ones feeling is not expressed openly but profoundly.

In Extroverted Thinking the content of thought is both in the subconscious and in the environment but has tendency to be in a feedback loop where associations are meet with the rules of that environment. Introverted Think follows the rules of how its content is associated which comes from its own mind subconsciously. Both kinds of thinking have a logical outcomes but Introverted Thinking is more pure do to it tendency to use principles of logic rather that precision of rules discovered empirically.

The irrational functions generate associations in the subconscious where the content of the unconscious is vast compared to the rational content. In Extroverted Sensing the content is with other content of which is not felt or manipulated but associated based on the strength each stimulation has following each other. Introverted Sensing is associated with the same content but on how it affects the person on the personal level or emotional level. Anger, love, sadness, fear can be associated with objects or the anthropomorphism of them in the content of stimulation. Jung said trains can be evil to a person with Introverted Sensation.

Intuition unlike sensation associates its content not as objects of sensation but as ideas with meaning abstract meaning. Extroverted Intuition is divergent and has a global context, all ideas are related where as in Introverted Intuition ideas are convergent to a single context of one idea. Concepts are generated from a seed in Introverted Intuition and grows into a tree. Extroverted Intuition is a fully connected neural network that adds links for each node connected to every other node.

Rational and Irrational functions work together and each Cognitive type has two of each so four function. The dominate function be it perceiving or judging must transfer content to its other functions based on the two it uses most.

INTP uses Ti to evaluate each link it has made via Ne. INTP is unaware of how Si and Fe work inside them but do have reactions to emotional association with affect.

INTJ want to bring their realization into reality via Te. They are also unaware of how they feel or where sensation objects are.

INTJ can be in conflict with INTPs because the links of Ni do not fit all nodes (as in Ne) to a system, (are not a system unto themselves) but in consistency come from many nodes to one node and acts on finding if a link should be there or not with Te not Ti.

INTJ are the mastermind for this reason is that they can achieve a goal (when the have one)
INTP can design because they have a map of everything that need to be included so they are the architect.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Nice. Too much info to take in for me to add anything atm lol.

 

[nanook]

i can roughly understand and agree with your first 3 long paragraphs.
without wanting to discuss details.

Jung said trains can be evil to a person with Introverted Sensation.

i would say that trains are tough to Si. toughness is a static property. toughness could be desirably or scary. evil seems to imply intent and intent is dynamic, which implies intuition. if trains are out to get you, it's probably a projection of Ni.

but who knows, maybe i am an Ne user and my understanding of Ni is just too influenced by Si.

Intuition unlike sensation associates its content not as objects of sensation but as ideas with meaning abstract meaning. Extroverted Intuition is divergent and has a global context, all ideas are related where as in Introverted Intuition ideas are convergent to a single context of one idea. Concepts are generated from a seed in Introverted Intuition and grows into a tree. Extroverted Intuition is a fully connected neural network that adds links for each node connected to every other node.

this bit has inspired my to write my own view of intuition.
may not meet your criteria of being 'empiric' but at least it makes sense to me

i tried to examine the qualities of divergence and convergence, as i can see them.



reducing types to two function is taking empiricism too far, individuals may neglect the implications of tertiary and inferior functions, but are highly aware of them and able to speak of them and interact with them, which is visible to the empiric eye.

"INTP is unaware of how Si and Fe work inside"

perhaps. one might also say, they don't "work" their Si and Fe consciously, at least not frequently. but even the auxiliary function can appear, at times, as if it's products are just presented magically. it appears to me, that awareness of how something works inside is a lot like a particular and temporary state of egoic concentration. surely most people have little awareness of how their dominant function works, most of the time.

 

[Black Rose]

Psychological Types Chapter 10 Summery

 

[QuickTwist]

i can roughly understand and agree with your first 3 long paragraphs.
without wanting to discuss details.

i would say that trains are tough to Si. toughness is a static property. toughness could be desirably or scary. evil seems to imply intent and intent is dynamic, which implies intuition. if trains are out to get you, it's probably a projection of Ni.

but who knows, maybe i am an Ne user and my understanding of Ni is just too influenced by Si.

this bit has inspired my to write my own view of intuition.
may not meet your criteria of being 'empiric' but at least it makes sense to me

i tried to examine the qualities of divergence and convergence, as i can see them.



reducing types to two function is taking empiricism too far, individuals may neglect the implications of tertiary and inferior functions, but are highly aware of them and able to speak of them and interact with them, which is visible to the empiric eye.

"INTP is unaware of how Si and Fe work inside"

perhaps. one might also say, they don't "work" their Si and Fe consciously, at least not frequently. but even the auxiliary function can appear, at times, as if it's products are just presented magically. it appears to me, that awareness of how something works inside is a lot like a particular and temporary state of egoic concentration. surely most people have little awareness of how their dominant function works, most of the time.

I read about 1/3 of the post. Basically your saying that the same functional stack always behaves in the same way and that is just not true Brudah.