existence vs numbers

[sushi]

the nature of existence and number is related

numbers and "how many" describe existence of something

1 is the basic unit of existence

without numbers there would be no existence

for example 0 implies no existence, 1 and more descibe the existence of something in terms of numbers

if something is not a number or described by numbers, it cannot exist.

 

[Cognisant]

Numbers are an abstract representation of existence, not existence itself.

 

[sushi]

true Cognisant but can there be existence without numbers?

i am here because i have only one life. oneness is existence.

unless there is the concept of multiple lives, which is i reincarnate into second life or third life after i die and go to the grave on this one.

or i have spare clone copies of myself, which is a form of multiple existences.

 

[Thurlor]

Photons are dimensionless. Many measurements of dimesionless particles are zero. Yet they exist.

 

[onesteptwostep]

I mean the universe existed before any arab thought of arabian numbers.

 

[scorpiomover]

true Cognisant but can there be existence without numbers?

You could not be taught about numbers, just as you could not be taught about existence.

But if numbers were destroyed, then there could be no "1" and thus no possibility of binary existence.

 

[sushi]

I mean the universe existed before any arab thought of arabian numbers.

you are arguing whether math was discovered or invented.

numbers as countable or uncountable.

as of now i think , at least space time and the universe are numbers or made of numbers.

months days, weeks years etc.

 

[sushi]

1 rock 2 rock 3 rock 4 rocks ... etc
1 rock= 1 existence

of course not everything is same as rocks, like irrational numbers or things that cant be quantified, but 1 is the basic unit of existence for many things. existence cant escape the law of numbers.

 

[birdsnestfern]

hmm, I think numbers are a truth of the universe and they help you systemize and make judgements about it, but if the big bang theory is correct, and it started as one and made itself into infinity and beyond, then its countless. Plus, its constantly adding, subtracting, dividing itself. So the rocks might become sand eventually. Maybe they are a parallel of things. Not sure.



Non-Binary? Ominary?

Definition of BINARY

something made of two things or parts; specifically : binary star; a number system based only on the numerals 0 and 1 : a binary number system; a division into two groups or classes that are considered diametrically opposite… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[sushi]

this is the question of pluralism vs monoism/singularism (ig. there is one god vs there are many gods, or there is one world vs there are many worlds)

or dualism

Pluralism (philosophy) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

my hypothesis is that existence is either mathematical or physical, material or immaterial
(imaginary objects doesnt count)

hmm, I think numbers are a truth of the universe and they help you systemize and make judgements about it, but if the big bang theory is correct, and it started as one and made itself into infinity and beyond, then its countless. Plus, its constantly adding, subtracting, dividing itself. So the rocks might become sand eventually. Maybe they are a parallel of things. Not sure.



Non-Binary? Ominary?

Definition of BINARY

something made of two things or parts; specifically : binary star; a number system based only on the numerals 0 and 1 : a binary number system; a division into two groups or classes that are considered diametrically opposite… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

there is some sense to this.

how does one become many, how does 0 become many?