ENTP vs. INTP?

[johndude77]

So, i've been reading up on these different personalities and trying to figure out which one fits me. I keep getting INTP on my test, but i have almost every reason to believe I am ENTP.

I know that some say that ENTPs are more "social" then INTPs but that's not always the case. For me, I feel energized by social gatherings with my close friends but when I see other groups of people i dont know very well in places like the mall and pretty much anywhere, i tend to maneuver my way around them. Not sure if this means anything, but....

Anyways, what would you guys describe as the difference between these two personalities?

 

[Dormouse]

Whenever I see threads with vs. in the title I expect the question to be more along the lines of 'In a brawl between an ENTP and INTP, who would win?'.

As of yet I have been disappointed.

 

[johndude77]

ENTP would win for sure

 

[Deleted member 1424]

ENTP would win for sure

You betray your bias.
Are you an ENTP, or do you just desperately want to be?

ENTPs are an impulsive lot, they have the attention spans of gnats, and precious little subtlety.* Head to head with an INTP and they'll get caught up in their own showmanship while the INTP quietly outmaneuvers them.

*in my experience of course and that's not to say they don't have their merits.

 

[johndude77]

You betray your bias.
Are you an ENTP, or do you just desperately want to be?

ENTPs are an impulsive lot, they have the attention spans of gnats, and precious little subtlety.* Head to head with an INTP and they'll get caught up in their own showmanship while the INTP quietly outmaneuvers them.

*in my experience of course and that's not to say they don't have their merits.

Like a said, i have no idea what i am, im having an identity crisis. The tests say INTP. But the heart says ENTP.

PS. Why would i want to be one?

 

[Cognisant]

I think the difference is in the amount of self expression, it's entirely possible for an ENTP to be socially inept, but less likely because their fondness for self expression means they'll seek an audience while an INTP on the other hand is perfectly happy keeping their thoughts to themself.

I'm probably an ENTP judging by my rather pointless postings of late.
Of course there's nothing stopping me from becoming an INTP again.

 

[bloozie]

ENTPs are fun and INTPs are boring.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

Sure you're not a sensor bloozie?

 

[TheHmmmm]

You betray your bias.
Are you an ENTP, or do you just desperately want to be?

ENTPs are an impulsive lot, they have the attention spans of gnats, and precious little subtlety.* Head to head with an INTP and they'll get caught up in their own showmanship while the INTP quietly outmaneuvers them.

*in my experience of course and that's not to say they don't have their merits.

Don't worry, johndude's not an ENTP. He believes the test like a noob.

 

[Cavallier]

I know a very hermitish ENTP. He's still an ENTP. He just would rather play with whatever it is he's obsessed with at the moment than be bothered to put any energy into his fallback hobby of manipulating people. Eh, most of the time that is...

 

[SpaceYeti]

So, i've been reading up on these different personalities and trying to figure out which one fits me. I keep getting INTP on my test, but i have almost every reason to believe I am ENTP.

I know that some say that ENTPs are more "social" then INTPs but that's not always the case. For me, I feel energized by social gatherings with my close friends but when I see other groups of people i dont know very well in places like the mall and pretty much anywhere, i tend to maneuver my way around them. Not sure if this means anything, but....

Anyways, what would you guys describe as the difference between these two personalities?

That sounds INTP to me. INTPs can get energized and have fun with people they know well, but they're still introverted and don't seek to socialize with people they don't consider friends already. I'm actually fairly sociable and outright charming, especially considering I'm an INTP, but I still need my time away from other people. People take up so much energy and require attention I'd rather place elsewhere. Except close friends, but I still need time away from them. If only to masturbate.

 

[snafupants]

That sounds INTP to me. INTPs can get energized and have fun with people they know well, but they're still introverted and don't seek to socialize with people they don't consider friends already. I'm actually fairly sociable and outright charming, especially considering I'm an INTP, but I still need my time away from other people. People take up so much energy and require attention I'd rather place elsewhere. Except close friends, but I still need time away from them. If only to masturbate.

how do you fit your cranium through standard doorways?

 

[bloozie]

Sure you're not a sensor bloozie?

What nonsense to even deduce that I am one.

 

[SpaceYeti]

how do you fit your cranium through standard doorways?

I never claimed I did.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

That sounds INTP to me. INTPs can get energized and have fun with people they know well, but they're still introverted and don't seek to socialize with people they don't consider friends already. I'm actually fairly sociable and outright charming, especially considering I'm an INTP, but I still need my time away from other people. People take up so much energy and require attention I'd rather place elsewhere. Except close friends, but I still need time away from them. If only to masturbate.

Yea OP, you're apparently an INTP. Close friends are different since you are already used to them. There is no awkwardness, anxiety or apprehension to deal with.

 

[johndude77]

Don't worry, johndude's not an ENTP. He believes the test like a noob.

You're the noob

 

[8151147]

god damn it. When i reading this topic i check again MBTI, and i found that may be i'mt not INTP.

When i read MBTI first, I think i'm not clever (and the fact, i don't sucessful in my career education, at least until i study in university), so i choose INTP, but i'm "Extraverted".
I'm so reluctant to choose something, i'm loser

Ps: sry for my damn bad english. I have to work hard more or become a loser forever

 

[johndude77]

Ya, I've looked beyond the test to find the answers. After researching for hours, I think i can say im INTP. However, I was thinking about those people who's I dominates the E, for me they are both really close. It's like 60-40 I believe. So i guess not all INTPs are always sitting around thinking like all pages say about a stereotypical INTP. You know what? Finding answers gives me this warm fuzzy feeling inside, like the one you get when you eat a Big Mac

 

[commandolam]

Big Macs are a favorite of ENTPs.

Hmm...

 

[johndude77]

No Lam, they are the favorites of INTPs....join us lam....join us

 

[EyeSeeCold]

No, McGriddles are favorite of INTPs.

 

[SpaceYeti]

... Are you all forgetting Lasagna?

 

[johndude77]

I hate lasagna, i believe we can all agree on meatloaf.

 

[SpaceYeti]

You believe wrong, then.

Pasghetti?

 

[johndude77]

Maybe, only the good kind.

Cheeseburgers?

 

[SpaceYeti]

Even bad pasghetti is good! It's like sex! Even bad sex feels good enough for penetration to occur.

Cheeseburgers are very good, but I often go cheeseless.

 

[johndude77]

Eww, do you just go buger and bun? Or do you like to add a little pizazz like onion rings and BBQ sauce? Man, it's like an orgasm in your mouth.

 

[bloozie]

I know this great burger joint here in SF. It's loads better than an orgasm.

 

[johndude77]

I know this great burger joint here in SF. It's loads better than an orgasm.

No way, get out!

 

[SpaceYeti]

I know this great burger joint here in SF. It's loads better than an orgasm.

Impossible! Orgasms are the best!

 

[kibou]

Instead of thinking "ENTPs are more extroverted, while INTPs are more introverted", it might be more useful to think "ENTPs act Ne->Ti, INTPs act Ti->Ne". Someone once put it as "introverts think before they act, extroverts act before they think". ENTPs would rather start with the exploratory inferencing Ne then sort through the information with decision-making Ti, while an INTP would rather make a foundation with Ti, and then look for ways to adapt this foundation to the outside world with Ne.

 

[UptownHarmlessPantyHose]

Depending on how strong your I is, you could be close to being split down the middle.

A big difference is that most extroverted types, especially extroverted thinkers, wish to share their thoughts and ideas with others and shape their surroundings according to what they believe to be ideal.

Introverted thinkers like us are usually not as concerned about communicating our thoughts and ideas, even though we like to on occasion or when we are with like-minded people, and are generally less concerned with applying our views to the world around us, at least in my case.

I am pretty oblivious, even when I appear to be paying attention and I feel that I can get more done this way, even if others may not be aware of all of things that I'm sorting out in my mind. I think extroverts probably feel a bit more of a need to be understood or at least accepted by their peers.

 

[TruthSeeker]

Well, you can't be split down the middle, but you can have a well developed Ne or Ti for an I/E NTP. But it will ultimately serve the top function. So what do you do, do you use your imagination/see connections to add to an all-consuming framework, or do you use your imagination/see connections for their own sake and put a framework under them (think really hard about it and be honest with yourself; remember what you're looking for is unconscious tendencies)?

 

[dark]

Whenever I see threads with vs. in the title I expect the question to be more along the lines of 'In a brawl between an ENTP and INTP, who would win?'.

As of yet I have been disappointed.

Between an ENTP and INTP the one with the most developed auxilary function would win. If neither are developed, the ENTP has the natural upperhand. With similiar or equal intelligence it is really a toss up with the Functions developed decent. That is why I am practicing my Ti more, just incase I find myself against an INTP in world domination.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Between an ENTP and INTP the one with the most developed auxilary function would win. If neither are developed, the ENTP has the natural upperhand. With similiar or equal intelligence it is really a toss up with the Functions developed decent. That is why I am practicing my Ti more, just incase I find myself against an INTP in world domination.

No way, the ENTP would act on a whim while the INTP would wait for the opportune moment.

 

[Reluctantly]

If you like pizza, you might be ENTP.


If you don't like pizza, you might just be weird.

Edit: Actually you have a Pokemon avatar. That can only mean one thing! You're a Pokemon!

 

[Jesse]

Your a INTP, sorry to break it to you.

 

[Reluctantly]

Yeah, you're INTP so that means your doomed. Sorry. ......Hey wait......

 

[dark]

No way, the ENTP would act on a whim while the INTP would wait for the opportune moment.

Ha, wait, that is when ENTPs whim will give a significant advantage. Unless of course it goes horribly wrong, then the INTP may win. If I gathered my history correctly, Erwin Rommel was an ENTP, and nearly undefeatable, damn dysentery. Haha, but yeah I don't think he went up against an INTP general, just a damn lunatic fuhrer.(and to anyone who thinks I am either being pro anything is wrong, my WWII class was most interesting, and I particularly enjoyed reading about this genius of a desert fox.)

INTPs may have more subtlety a others have stated, but the ENTP does the unexpected. There are too many similiarities between them, and for each weaknesses, the other has strenghts, so as long as both are good, it would be a test of endurance, which then I will have to admit, ENTPs would loose. Unless someone told the ENTP it couldn't be done then the INTP would just loose right off, if you don't want something done then don't tell an ENTP it can't be done. The INTP just needs to keep telling the ENTP, "it can be done, it can be done."

 

[EyeSeeCold]

(and to anyone who thinks I am either being pro anything is wrong, my WWII class was most interesting, and I particularly enjoyed reading about this genius of a desert fox.)

Yea, I know what you mean. I love to idealize WWII, especially D-Day.

INTPs may have more subtlety a others have stated, but the ENTP does the unexpected. There are too many similiarities between them, and for each weaknesses, the other has strenghts, so as long as both are good, it would be a test of endurance, which then I will have to admit, ENTPs would loose. Unless someone told the ENTP it couldn't be done then the INTP would just loose right off, if you don't want something done then don't tell an ENTP it can't be done. The INTP just needs to keep telling the ENTP, "it can be done, it can be done."

Both have a sort of diligence, ENTPs want to see the idea come true, INTPs want to attain the truth.

I think it would be a stalemate with INTP on the defensive and ENTP on the attack.

 

[Glordag]

Imagine a shiny rock of wondrous power. The ENTP would want to do something with it, whereas the INTP might just be content to study it.

I know, I know - I'm incredibly helpful.

In a fight between an ENTP and INTP I regretfully admit that the ENTP would win. ENTPs are flashy and interesting, and INTPs are mesmerized by flashy and interesting things. INTPs would be too distracted to fight properly ): . Of course, ENTPs may also be likely to be too distracted demonstrating their prowess to actually harm the INTP. This is tough....

 

[dark]

I think it would be a stalemate with INTP on the defensive and ENTP on the attack.

Very true. I will give an example of my RTS playing.
My brother is an ISTP, I play against him the most. He isn't imaginiative at all, he just builds defense, masses and masses, which I would assume the same for all Is, but on his case, he is not very imaginative, which I know an INTP would be, so a very creative defensive person that knows how to use the defense really well is the INTP. On my side I did not find a use for defense, I created an army, assigned them into units, and positioned them, always constantly moving them, always with one another, but each had seperate goals, I even had suicide guys to make traps. And since he couldn't keep up with my attacks I would ultimately win very quickly. The only times I ever lost was when I became "to smart for my own good" and took unnecessary risks. So against INTP and ENTP it would be lightening fast attacks along with lightening fast defensive manuvers, each cancelling the other out, that is until the ENTP does something either a) so spectacular the INTP becomes distracted, or b) the ENTP does something so spectacular the ENTP becomes distracted.

So it is relatively down to the ENTP, since the INTP will be reserved and waiting, if the ENTP makes a mistake while showing off, they loose, if the INTP doesn't keep to their wits and watch for the mistake they loose.

 

[dark]

I have been reading things from the ENTP forms particularly the "You know you're and ENTP..." and it seems INTP and ENTP are almost identical. In the INTP version I saw a bit of "depression" and in the ENTP, well I can't see what is apparent there. I do know they have almost the same notions, but slightly different reasons. On a scale, INTP at first glance would look neutral, while ENTP would look chaotic, of course this is because of their outward "showman-ship" exhibited by either. It seems we process information very similiar, but how we use our functions and the information we recieve are different. They are almost opposites of the same person. Not a INTP/ESFJ type opposite, that is just fundamentally wrong to even consider comparing.

 

[dark]

Also ENTPs seem to be mean, which is the only thing I couldn't identify with the INTP, how could I account for like 90% of my child hood where I made people angry on purpose. I like to call them childhood experiements, but no one believed me. I actaully think I found an INTP, was my group partner in religious studies, he let me rant on for about an hour, keep up with everything, and told me to go ahead and do the project according to what I had just said because it was very logical, and I respond, what did I just say?

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Also ENTPs seem to be mean, which is the only thing I couldn't identify with the INTP, how could I account for like 90% of my child hood where I made people angry on purpose. I like to call them childhood experiements, but no one believed me. I actaully think I found an INTP, was my group partner in religious studies, he let me rant on for about an hour, keep up with everything, and told me to go ahead and do the project according to what I had just said because it was very logical, and I respond, what did I just say?

Lol. Yeah, I think the meanness has a purpose though. INTPs can do the same thing, but only when engaged in an interesting debate. It's up to the ENTP to make society examine itself, one annoyed citizen at a time.

 

[dark]

From all of my understanding, the only NT I really don't enjoy is ENTJ, I am like WTF when I read the profiles of those...