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Dumb INTP

buttcracker

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Hi

I'm a dumb INTP

Not 100% sure if I'm INTP, but pretty sure that I'm not very bright.

I'm socially akward, have 0 friends. I tend to day dream and I'm interested in abstract ideas. But my mind is really slow, and I tend to forget everything, unless I hammer it in my brain. When someone speaks to me and I have to response with anything other than small talk courtesy, I have no idea what to say, or its just some utter nonsense, how I usually later realise. And I think thats just because my brain is so slow. Also I have to mention I was a failure at school.

I do value intelligence though, and so does society I think. I've got a big ego I guess, and my slow mind was always a problem to me because of this. For years I tried to get faster, or try to convince myself that I'm not an idiot. But I've come to realise that I've been lying to myself. I can't get smart, and I can't just deceive myself.
I've also tried to not value intelligence at all, to be happy with myself, but as a human being this seems almost impossible to me. So where to go?

I probably seem like a self-centered asshole, considering there are children who are starving, and I cry about being a dummy. Welp

Yeah and my username choice was probably not the smartest thing either, makes me look like a troll.
 

Lot

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U gotz yo sef a meentel ishyou

Have you gone to a Doctor of medicine or the mind about this? Yo might actually have a brain chemistry issues, or even a hardware problem. Something that might be fixable. That is if you really don't like the way things are atm.

Mind fog can be a symptom of several serious issues. I get it when I'm depressed or having anxiety. One of my reasons for using cannabis.
 

buttcracker

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I got diagnosed with ADHD at some point. But the medication didn't help at all, so I guess I might be just an aspie, since a lot of the symptoms overlap. But then again, being an aspie and being an intp doesnt really fit together.
 

Grayman

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Hi

I'm a dumb INTP

Not 100% sure if I'm INTP, but pretty sure that I'm not very bright.

I'm socially akward, have 0 friends. I tend to day dream and I'm interested in abstract ideas. But my mind is really slow, and I tend to forget everything, unless I hammer it in my brain. When someone speaks to me and I have to response with anything other than small talk courtesy, I have no idea what to say, or its just some utter nonsense, how I usually later realise. And I think thats just because my brain is so slow. Also I have to mention I was a failure at school.

I do value intelligence though, and so does society I think. I've got a big ego I guess, and my slow mind was always a problem to me because of this. For years I tried to get faster, or try to convince myself that I'm not an idiot. But I've come to realise that I've been lying to myself. I can't get smart, and I can't just deceive myself.
I've also tried to not value intelligence at all, to be happy with myself, but as a human being this seems almost impossible to me. So where to go?

I probably seem like a self-centered asshole, considering there are children who are starving, and I cry about being a dummy. Welp

Yeah and my username choice was probably not the smartest thing either, makes me look like a troll.


Are you measuring intelligence solely on the speed of thought as apposed the end result of a thought?

I am a slow thinker but still more capable of finding answers to problems and expressing an 'end result' creativity than others that I know.

We learn from experimenting, and that includes experimenting in our head. I am often lost in thought and distracted, daydreamer. I did not advance skillfully in life until I redirected those daydreams to more productive thoughts. In otherwords daydream like all INTP do but daydream productively.
 

Grayman

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Also,

Do you remember your daydreams and thoughts more vividly than real life? Do you remember them very well and they are detailed?

If so, you are not dumb or forgetful you're just distracted.
 

Cherry Cola

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Just how are you slow in the head?

I'm not a quick thinker, I did an IQ test and my working memory and speed sucked, but I ain't stupid. I've got ADD. You sound like you have ADD rather than ADHD.

What sort of medication(s) have you tried, and how old are you? :O
 

JansenDowel

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That was me in school. I just had to train myself to focus. If you focus, its incredible just how easy to learn and solve problems.
 

Hadoblado

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I too think slow. Except sometimes.

I think for a lot of people the speed of thought is inhibited by the inability to manage cognitive resources... yeearp, ADHD'd do that. Goal oriented thought only measures one outcome, an outcome that the attention impaired are unable to specialise in.
 

mrrhq

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I bet butt crackers taste like farts.
 

B00Bz

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Just how are you slow in the head?

I'm not a quick thinker, I did an IQ test and my working memory and speed sucked, but I ain't stupid. I've got ADD. You sound like you have ADD rather than ADHD.

What sort of medication(s) have you tried, and how old are you? :O

Ditto. This was my first thought when I read this thread.
 

emaugust

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I was recently diagnosed with non hyper ADD. I took all of the tests + the additional 2 tests to get a proper IQ score and they found that I killed it everywhere, except for the part where they throw a bunch of information at you and you need to process and repeat it. I did really poorly there - apparently my ADD specifically limits my ability to process volume information.

Our brains work in many interesting ways and no one is quite alike. I think the trick is to find your own strengths and play to them - I am 98% sure I would trade being a highly intelligent INTP if I could be a type that just applied myself, worked hard and was "normal".

What do you like to do in your spare time?
 

ZenRaiden

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Well slow thinking is exactly my problem. I really have slow mind. I really see the problem there. Its pretty depressing I can imagine.

As for autistic or aspie INTP do exist.
 

StevenM

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The smartest, and most wise people realize the limits of their intelligence.

When someone is under the belief that he knows, he stops looking for any answers.

But those who can say that they don't know, who still have questions, are continuing on a journey of learning and education.

Those who proclaim to be smart have halted this journey.

Where a person is making many mistakes, he is also acquainted with much wisdom.
 

The Grey Man

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The smartest, and most wise people realize the limits of their intelligence.

When someone is under the belief that he knows, he stops looking for any answers.

But those who can say that they don't know, who still have questions, are continuing on a journey of learning and education.

Those who proclaim to be smart have halted this journey.

Where a person is making many mistakes, he is also acquainted with much wisdom.

Mmm well said.
 

Grayman

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The smartest, and most wise people realize the limits of their intelligence.

When someone is under the belief that he knows, he stops looking for any answers.

But those who can say that they don't know, who still have questions, are continuing on a journey of learning and education.

Those who proclaim to be smart have halted this journey.

Where a person is making many mistakes, he is also acquainted with much wisdom.

You are falsely correlating intelligence with knowledge. A person who rightly thinks they are intelligent in certain areas but believes they don't have all the knowledge or answers, is wise but also confident.
 

emaugust

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Well slow thinking is exactly my problem. I really have slow mind. I really see the problem there. Its pretty depressing I can imagine.

As for autistic or aspie INTP do exist.

Do you think that by thinking slower, you might be thinking more thoroughly? I think the idea of thinking fast is only good if you are able to do so effectively...
 

BryanWijaya8888

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Do you rarely talk? Do you often obeserve what others do? Do you find it really difficult to learn new stuffs? And do you still have a hard time even if you have tried this before? I am an INTP, and I got the same problems too.
 
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