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Yeah wrong title, but maybe not. I wonder sometimes, I know about 70% of the time I have INTP tendencies, but 30% of the time I find myself operating full mode in ENTP. Maybe I'm just NTP, but I'm really confused on this, not even really sure if this is the right thread for this. So do you others find similiar things true, such as dual personalities, not the psych mutli-personas.
 

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Re: Dualism

The difference between an ENTP and an INTP isn't one of charisma or social graces, it's that an extrovert is outwardly focused, exuding themself for all the world, while an introvert prefers to keep themself all to themself, not because they're consciously secretive, just inwardly focused.

But occasionally we have something to say, so we exude ourselves just like an ENTP.
 

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This is so not about dualism. For three seconds I was excited... excited! about something.

Umm.. so thread title changed for accuracy.

We've had very similar threads to this, but maybe someone will find a new angle that helps you with your question.

And Cog... you usage of the word 'exude' in this context offends my literary sensibilities.

That's all. The old bat has finished whinging. May the thread continue, or die as the gods see fit. *over-dramatic flourish*
 

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We all have aspects of every type..thats what alot of intp extremists seem to miss. We all are completely different, though we share some of the same aspects for the most part. In certain situations different aspects and types rise up. Like, judging from my videos, ud think i was entp...Every video i do is when im completely alone and noone can see me. not even my family. I live in a house with no neighbors, in the woods. When im alone, i can do whatever i want. I also have no people skills, and dont give a shit about being "popular"..

It could be different for you. Maybe in certain situations, certain parts of you feel more comfortable showing themselves.
 

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Yeah wrong title, but maybe not. I wonder sometimes, I know about 70% of the time I have INTP tendencies, but 30% of the time I find myself operating full mode in ENTP. Maybe I'm just NTP, but I'm really confused on this, not even really sure if this is the right thread for this. So do you others find similiar things true, such as dual personalities, not the psych mutli-personas.
Some people claim a balanced E/I state, but I think that's just a result of not having enough time for self reflection. If left alone for awhile I think you will either start showing signs of powerlessness (unable to understand, Ti) or signs or creative restlessness(Ne).
 

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Some people claim a balanced E/I state, but I think that's just a result of not having enough time for self reflection. If left alone for awhile I think you will either start showing signs of powerlessness (unable to understand, Ti) or signs or creative restlessness(Ne).
wait what? can u explain this a little more? I have both of those symptoms, and it fucking sucks..im going through one of those phases right now...why is this?
 

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wait what? can u explain this a little more? I have both of those symptoms, and it fucking sucks..im going through one of those phases right now...why is this?
Nothing much to explain. If you have Ti dom you want to analyze and systematize everything. Ne doms would become restless due to being restrained in one way or another.

INTPs can exhibit both, since they are in the top two ranks, but being left alone for a long time, one will become more apparent. I have a need to be creative, but I have more of a tendency to analyze everything that has happened in the day. It basically rules my life.
 

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Nothing much to explain. If you have Ti dom you want to analyze and systematize everything. Ne doms would become restless due to being restrained in one way or another.

INTPs can exhibit both, since they are in the top two ranks, but being left alone for a long time, one will become more apparent. I have a need to be creative, but I have more of a tendency to analyze everything that has happened in the day. It basically rules my life.
Ahhh ok...you know your personality shit dont you...That must be why im depressed alot, im being restricted from expressing my Ti and Ne...then i get home and i express the fuck out of them, while doing this i get to the point where i think about the Ti and Ne themselves, and analyze myself and why i cant express them, then i get depressed, knowing that the road ahead will be rough...ok got it...just had to think about it in text form.
 

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It happens. I means introverted, meaning usually keep themselves to themself. However, that doesn't mean you're not extroverted at all. Being INTP doesn't mean you have to keep everything to yourself. It just means that's what you mostly do based on your nature. At least, that's how I interpret it.
 

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Ahhh ok...you know your personality shit dont you...That must be why im depressed alot, im being restricted from expressing my Ti and Ne...then i get home and i express the fuck out of them, while doing this i get to the point where i think about the Ti and Ne themselves, and analyze myself and why i cant express them, then i get depressed, knowing that the road ahead will be rough...ok got it...just had to think about it in text form.
Listening to music helps me alot. I can't analyze with people talking in my ears so I just rely on my Si (active pleasure/comfort) until I am alone to engage in Ti.
 

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Ahhh ok...you know your personality shit dont you...That must be why im depressed alot, im being restricted from expressing my Ti and Ne...then i get home and i express the fuck out of them, while doing this i get to the point where i think about the Ti and Ne themselves, and analyze myself and why i cant express them, then i get depressed, knowing that the road ahead will be rough...ok got it...just had to think about it in text form.

Sorry but I don’t think that’s why you’re depressed, I mean that might be the reason, but it’s also not the reason... if that makes sense.

ANNNNNNNDDDD

EyeSeeCold,
I don’t understand, explain.
No, no this has nothing to do with this thread, I simply want you to explain how your mind is doing this, how do you manage to obtain such a large amount of knowledge on so many different areas, to the extent that you can post comments on almost any thread with logic so thought out that I fail to find flaws with it? Have you lived a long time and obtained the knowledge through age? Explain this to me, please.
 

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EyeSeeCold,
I don’t understand, explain.
No, no this has nothing to do with this thread, I simply want you to explain how your mind is doing this, how do you manage to obtain such a large amount of knowledge on so many different areas, to the extent that you can post comments on almost any thread with logic so thought out that I fail to find flaws with it? Have you lived a long time and obtained the knowledge through age? Explain this to me, please.

This is probably due to the fact that lots of arguments can be logically coherent, but not empirically true. Flaws become more apparent when bringing in counterarguments that are also internally consistent, but are based on stronger evidence.

Also, if there was sarcasm here, I missed it.
 

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Ah, ok understandable, so my extrovertedness I occassionally show has absolutely nothing to do with ENTP eh. So how does charisma come into existance? Because normally I don't have any, until that percent chance happens and I decide to be extroverted some how, and I have the ability to become something of a cult leader, I guess that's charisma, I really don't know what it means to feel emotion, so charisma is really questionable.
Don't take me wrong, I'm pretty sure I've felt some emotion a couple times, can't tell you what it is though. [usually has to do with listening to music or when I see something that makes extreme logic, or maybe this is just excitement, can't really tell the difference since I don't seem to experience either so much. anyhow...]
 

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I go with what KazeCraven said, I mean I don't claim or expect myself to be any more or less knowledgeable. It's just a matter of me making the effort to construct a logical reason for everything.
 

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I go with what KazeCraven said, I mean I don't claim or expect myself to be any more or less knowledgeable. It's just a matter of me making the effort to construct a logical reason for everything.

Not the answer I wanted. There was a flaw in my question of course; I didn’t think it through enough to be able to understand the answer anyway.

I forgot how disappointing asking questions is; if the question is to narrow the answer is useless... if it’s too broad it’s interpreted incorrectly etc
 

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I think most people do this; I know I do. Often, I go out specifically to talk to people but never people I actually know. Strangers to talk to whom I will tell my life story to banking on the fact I'll never see them again.

I don't think we can be INTP 24/7 just as an ENTP cannot be ENTP 24/7. Something they're going to want time for themselves. Everyone bounces, everyone has to have some kind of balance. I guess. You know. Up to debate, now that I think about it but I'll shut it now.
 

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Yeah wrong title, but maybe not. I wonder sometimes, I know about 70% of the time I have INTP tendencies, but 30% of the time I find myself operating full mode in ENTP. Maybe I'm just NTP, but I'm really confused on this, not even really sure if this is the right thread for this. So do you others find similiar things true, such as dual personalities, not the psych mutli-personas.

Perhaps I can understand you, on some level. I'm an INTP. An old friend of mine -- also a male INTP -- told me a couple of weeks ago that he 'could swear' that I was an ENTP (this guy has known me for years). He simply refused to believe that I was an INTP, and it got to the point where I felt like he wanted me to go out of my way to prove it. Another friend of mine -- a female ENTP -- thought the same thing (we both studied together in the same program, at the same university, some 4 or 5 years ago). She still goes on about it today, that she would never have guessed it.

From what you've said, to me, you just sound like a balanced/socially-comfortable INTP. In my view, there's nothing strange about that.
 

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So I can be a almost very extroverted person, and still be an INTP? Guess that makes sense, since it does not say anywhere that this personality CANNOT be extroverted or CANNOT be introverted, etc. Guess it is the same with the other letters, where we may be prone to thinking things through or whatever, feelings do occur for us, even if it is seldom. But I don't understand the entire percieving or judging thing.
 

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^ Yes however faking Fe through Ne is exhausting, while restraining your ego(Ti) in social situations is not as tiring. i.e. Just say what you feel and be your (weird?) self, don't try to be all strategical in your interactions. The problem though is letting down your emotional guard.

Basically J/P means how we interact with the outer world. J's have an agenda and set out to accomplish it. P's sort just take life as it comes, adjusting as necessary. Also P's judge, but they judge information internally and change how they perceive the world according to the new information. In contrast, Js would not change their worldview, but their methods.
 
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