Drama

[Cleo]

I find that I'm driven to stand up for what I believe in, have my say, and then expect it to be respected as my viewpoint. I'm not talking about an insulting viewpoint either. I don't mind people then reasonably disagreeing with me, discussing the issue, and I may even find that my view is swayed a little.

But many people jump to the defense, get all vicious, drag all sorts of irrelevant crap into it. Then I back off, okay, sorry, I wish I'd never mentioned it in the first place. But they still come, blindsiding, attacking, name calling etc.

I continue to back off, and eventually they give up, but the damage is done, so to speak. And often, I'm amazed that these people don't at least acknowledge that they went overboard.

Drama isn't my scene, but it seems that others thrive on it. I don't see many drama llamas here, so are we on the same wave-length?

 

[RubberDucky451]

I've seen a lot of this too. Especially concerning religious discussion where the thread usually gets locked after 3 pages of argument. I too hold firm beliefs but I don't usually get aggressive, I will sometimes even switch to the opposing side of the argument just for fun.

Or maybe we're just too damn passive.

 

[warryer]

I think its purely ego. We, as introspective as we are, are more aware of who we are and who our ego is.

The ego to me is a blood lusting man anxious for battle with his finger on the big red button at all times- Alert! Alert! Man all battle stations we are going to war!

I hate it when people take a simple matter so personally and then proceed to crapstorm your argument with personal attacks.

I myself love it when this happens. I do the exact opposite and masochistically embrace the attacks. This always throws them off balance and then they become unsure about what to do next. Then I put on an evil grin and secretly laugh on the inside.

But yea around here you'll find us mostly laid back. We all have our soft spots but, most of us are mature enough to handle ourselves. *shakes voodoo stick to ward off emotions*

 

[Chimera]

Ha, highschool is drama's breeding ground. ​

I guess who you are and what you believe are very closely related; if you don't have a strong concept
of who you are, then every argument against your beliefs turns into a personal attack. (Don't quote
me on that, I'm not entirely convinced the difference between self v. beliefs is all that big...)​

People who react harshly to disagreement either amuse or depress me, depending on my mood.
Mainly I'll react to their attacks like warryer said, by taking them like compliments. Either that or I
get a totally incredulous look on my face--"Did you really just say that? What possible relation does
that have to what we're discussing?" I'm sure I would look offended if I weren't smiling. ​

 

[Jaico]

I think problems arise because INTPs see differences of opinion as just that - differences of opinion, and try to keep them separate from their personal opinions of other people (for the most part, anyhow). Other people, however, seem to associate an attack on an idea or argument as an attack on themselves, and then get all touchy and bring in all sorts of 'drama'...I've seen this a lot, myself - I try to keep arguments from becoming personal, but if there's a big difference of opinion, the other person generally sulks up/starts getting angry.

 

[White Rabbit]

I think problems arise because INTPs see differences of opinion as just that - differences of opinion, and try to keep them separate from their personal opinions of other people (for the most part, anyhow).

I agree with this. I find myself really hard to be triggered towards more aggressive arguing or letting emotions overflow the judgement. I actually don't remember the last time it happened. Sometimes, when I'm under stress and the mood is not right, it might lower the interest, but that's as far as it gets. I usually find those that get out of control while arguing really funny, and the whole process when they start losing it and moving it onto a personal level, usually because they feel their ego or self-esteem is attacked. One word - stupid.

 

[Adymus]

Some people will be personally offended by having you thrash their worldview, it's just how their mind works. There are many types who will see this attack on their opinions, and a personal attack on you as the exact same thing, as irrational as it sounds, it is in their nature. This is inevitable, so focusing on how superior we supposedly are for having the ability to be dispassionate about our points of view will solve nothing.

I think we just need to be aware of why they are taking it personally, because it is often for slightly different reasons, and then try to avoid that as much as you can. Just know that not everybody want's Occam's Razor to slice through their opinions, and if you don't want to deal with what it might stir, don't get involved. And if you feel you must get involved anyway, you better be prepared to roll with the punches, because their will be blood.

 

[Cleo]

I'm taking this all onboard, thank you everyone for your replies.

I've been told I wield invisible deadly swords, and called a sociopath, all because I couldn't be bothered to get emotionally fired up.