Drained Energy

[Sanctum]

ITs said that introverts draw energy from withing themselves and being around a lot of people drain their energy. I always thought of this is a figurative sense not literally. But I have noticed especially recently that this is also true physically. Often when i come from school i am very tired even without doing physical activity. I am also on the soccer team and despite practice i have noticed that the more people who attend practice the more tired i am when i get home. I'm on the JV team and a few people have jobs we have a small team to begin with so when 3 or 4 people are out its very noticeable. And ive noticed with the same workload im not as tired when these people are at work. Have anyone else experience something similar to this or am I reading too much into it.

 

[Nocturne]

Hm. I experience the very same, actually. Perhaps it comes from the mere presence of humans at school? However, sometimes I am just not in the mood to communicate or tolerate 'them'. Most of the time I really don't feel like elaborating on the questions they ask. (e.g.- How are you? or What are your plans for *insert a time....*)

(And bravo. I could never bring myself to join a sports team of any kind. ... .... >.< )

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I've been considering the notion for awhile that when it comes to psychobiological energy, Introverts are centripetal[1] and Extraverts are centrifugal[2].


[1] Centripetal - directed toward the center
[2] Centrifugal - moving or directed outward from the center

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

I've been considering the notion for awhile that when it comes to psychobiological energy, Introverts are centripetal[1] and Extraverts are centrifugal[2].


[1] Centripetal - directed toward the center
[2] Centrifugal - moving or directed outward from the center

I had an interesting thought one time regarding which the relation of man to God was. Are we meant to move towards the creational center or away from it?

We were created to return to the creator,
We were created to depart from the creator.

Though neither end changes, just the mind.

 

[Altivar]

I would agree in general more people more drain.

But in the few uncomfortable times I've had to speak in front of people, the charge i got from it was amazing.
I was comfortable and competent in what i spoke.
I didn't have confidence in myself but did in my subject.

 

[Peripheral Visionary]

I would agree in general more people more drain.

But in the few uncomfortable times I've had to speak in front of people, the charge i got from it was amazing.
I was comfortable and competent in what i spoke.
I didn't have confidence in myself but did in my subject.

Public speaking is a different animal than interaction. Johnny Carson (ISTJ), the old host of the Tonight Show, could go out and do his show every night and be very at ease, but at parties he would stand awkardly in a corner.

David Letterman (INTJ) is the same way, but it took him many years to get comfortable with doing the interview part of his show. (Sorry Altivar, I am not familiar with Australian examples.)

But back to the OP, is talk of "energy" supposed to be literal or metaphorical? We talk of "recharging" like the brain is a battery, but if you reflect upon it, might it not seem that you just need "chill" time, or a "down shift."

My understanding is that the introvert's brain tends to carry on more electrical activity, and thus tends to be overwhelmed by too much stimulus. The extroverted brain has a lower electrical activity and thus needs more interaction to stimulate it.

However, my preferred method of "chilling" is to read a book or watch a movie, both of which are stimulating, but not in the same way as having to carry on inane conversations with lots of people. So I am not really recharging my energy as simply moving into a more comfortable mode.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I had an interesting thought one time regarding which the relation of man to God was. Are we meant to move towards the creational center or away from it?

We were created to return to the creator,
We were created to depart from the creator.

Though neither end changes, just the mind.

@Artsu Tharaz

I guess it really depends on the god.

But I see it archetypally. When you create something, you are both above it and below it. Above it, being the creator yourself; yet below because you are the older generation, you will expire and your creation will live on. In a way, returning to the creator is a regression to the womb of parent-offspring relationship. Departing is progression to become your own creator to have your own creations, though you will expire in the end also and return to your creator in death(?).

What am I talking about lol.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

@Artsu Tharaz

I guess it really depends on the god.

But I see it archetypally. When you create something, you are both above it and below it. Above it, being the creator yourself; yet below because you are the older generation, you will expire and your creation will live on. In a way, returning to the creator is a regression to the womb of parent-offspring relationship. Departing is progression to become your own creator to have your own creations, though you will expire in the end also and return to your creator in death(?).

What am I talking about lol.

The same bong-hit philosophy I was talking about, I think. You've given a very nice counterpart to the idea. It's all about the cycle of birth and death.

Regression to the womb is not possible, as this reverses the causality which gives us existence in the first place. The only option then is progression, the inevitable outcome being a return to the state of non-existence, or rather of unformed existence.

From Brahman all things come, to Brahman all things return. We are but a flicker of the flame.

--

Also, centripetal vs centrifugal with reference to introversion is a really cool way to put it.

Given a page of text written naturally by a given person, or perhaps speech, can this relation to centre be effectively determined? In what areas of life can the tendency most clearly be identified? Many questions there are !

 

[LPolaright]

But in the few uncomfortable times I've had to speak in front of people, the charge i got from it was amazing.
I was comfortable and competent in what i spoke.
I didn't have confidence in myself but did in my subject.

Surprisingly from Owl City Blog:

Myth #1 – Introverts don’t like to talk.

This is not true. Introverts just don’t talk unless they have something to say. They hate small talk. Get an introvert talking about something they are interested in, and they won’t shut up for days.

Introverts are energized by indulging in what they're dominant function is:
for P's:
Ti or Fi

Over indulging in explaining your process of thought, or feelings with a crowd or even individuals and you'll see you'll just won't stop talking.

for J's:
Ni or Si.

Over indulging in experiencing the world through subjective thinking - like the path of understanding in-depth how something happens; or understanding how the facts before you are appearing as they are; and explaining them to crowds will thrill you.

 

[Amagi82]

I'm almost never feel tired in a drained sort of way, but I work as a truck driver, so I'm by myself almost all day almost every day. The only times I feel that draining tired is when my brother drags me to a bar.

I would agree in general more people more drain.

But in the few uncomfortable times I've had to speak in front of people, the charge i got from it was amazing.
I was comfortable and competent in what i spoke.
I didn't have confidence in myself but did in my subject.

Interestingly, I find I react similarly. It takes me a long time to plan, and it took some practice to get comfortable with it, but once I'm standing up there, I'm loud, clear, confident, and concise. I think what's different is it isn't group social interaction- it's you talking to unspecified individuals about a topic of interest. Also, when I'm in a party with people I'm friends with, I don't get the drain nearly as bad as a party with people I don't know.


As an introvert, I'm a man of very few words around people I don't know well, but I'll talk your ear off if I've found you're interested in something I'm interested in.