Do you think necrophilia should be considered a crime?

[A22]

A dead body, as far as I'm concerned, is an object. Therefore, it's treatment is left up to the owner - they can do whatever they want with it in private, as long as it isn't a public health risk. To make it illegal would be like making it illegal to have a sex doll.

I agree with that, although I think it's disrespectful to do such a thing. I mean, the guy is dead he won't mind but I wouldn't like someone fucking my dead body.

 

[BigApplePi]

I can see this is quite a lively thread. Personally I can't say I'm dead set against necrophilia. It's just that I'd be mortified if I were caught in the act. It's a matter of respect for the dead. How can we honor them and at the same time show our love? How would you feel about this if it were YOU that were dead?

Continue on ... may you love this subject as much as the next guy.

 

[A22]

How can we honor them and at the same time show our love? How would you feel about this if it were YOU that were dead?

I guess you could... ask the person before she dies. But that's just creepy.

btw I had a lot of laughs at your word jokes,even though English is not my first language

 

[BigApplePi]

I guess you could... ask the person before she dies. But that's just creepy.

You would be caught in A catch 22 A 22.

btw I had a lot of laughs at your word jokes,even though English is not my first language

That is not an issue here unless your first is a dead language.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

BAP, have you ever been baked?

You make it look so easy.

 

[BigApplePi]

BAP, have you ever been baked?

You make it look so easy.

Half baked maybe.
http://blog.jackvinson.com/archives/2010/07/26/half-baked_ideas.html

 

[GYX_Kid]

good question for entertaining objective debate

Well, laws should reflect customs, customs should reflect values, values should reflect character, and character should reflect experience. Until the majority of society has had sexual relations with a corpse, I don't think we as a whole are in a position to outlaw it.

that

and... http://wiki.answers.com/Q/In_which_countries_is_cannibalism_legal

i think cannibalism would logically come first in the degenerative path of liberation towards 'disrespecting the dead'

if society in general started moving in that direction, too many people who dug up and fucked their recently deceased cousin would carry over that bizarre view of morality into other areas, and have a blunted conscience due to associations and lack of ability to compartmentalize to that extreme degree.

so probably no it should not be legal- it's a more extreme and more black/white case than violent video games and aggression (which we all know should stay completely legal)


objectively, sex with something dead does no harm, other than possible medical and psychological consequences. if someone was "fucked up" enough to do it and never ended up committing a "victim" crime, i'd grin at the reality of having met a necrophiliac.

maybe for some people who seriously have a clinical case of necrophilia, they could obtain a license for it. some people may feel they need to fuck the dead before they kill someone to fuck, as opposed to graduating to something worse after the necrointercourse or whatever that word would be.

apparently this is the case in the UK: As of the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008, it is also illegal to possess physical depictions of necrophilia, electronic or otherwise. Necrophilia-pornography falls under the governmental description of extreme pornography, of which, possession is classed as illegal under the aforementioned act.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Before further discussion can happen, at least from me, I'd still like this question answered:

Wait are we arguing meaty necrophilia or bony necrophilia? The latter is just sick.

 

[Melllvar]

i think cannibalism would logically come first in the degenerative path of liberation towards 'disrespecting the dead'

If we were to talk about oral sex with the dead then we could potentially enjoy both at the same time.

Wait are we arguing meaty necrophilia or bony necrophilia? The latter is just sick.

Actually the bony necrophilia could be a lot more sanitary. I imagine it would be less pleasurable for a living male to be intimate with a skeletal partner though. A female necrophiliac might find the opposite true, however.

 

[BigApplePi]

Before further discussion can happen, at least from me, I'd still like this question answered:

Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold
Wait are we arguing meaty necrophilia or bony necrophilia? The latter is just sick.

Please explain in 23 words or less the etiology of this question.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Please explain in 23 words or less the etiology of this question.

1st attempt

Spoiler

It's simple - we kill the batman.

2nd attempt

Spoiler

The cause? To be able to respond to your request for an explanation

 

[BigApplePi]

Far be it from me to take issue with your answers there Icycold. Far more important an issue is this one:

I agree with that, although I think it's disrespectful to do such a thing. I mean, the guy is dead he won't mind but I wouldn't like someone fucking my dead body.

Putting procreation aside for the moment, is this something we want in our will? I mean yay or nay?

 

[GYX_Kid]

^ it's either worms or people getting dibs, we can't empathize with worms as well so wouldn't as easily point a finger at one flabbergasted at how much of a domineering sadistic shithead it is.

 

[GYX_Kid]

If we were to talk about oral sex with the dead then we could potentially enjoy both at the same time.

some societies might favor the more "pungent" fish, akin to cheese
anyway this double-whammy step could be the social acceptance link between cannibalism and necrophilia

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Please explain in 23 words or less the etiology of this question.

I learned about necrophilia through absorption of information. I never actually figured out whether the term referred to skeletons or meaty corpses.

Far be is from me to take issue with your answers there Icycold. Far more important an issue is this one:


Putting procreation aside for the moment, is this something we want in our will? I mean yay or nay?

True. What approach shall we take? We could go and say it's selfish for trying to claim your dead body which then belongs to Nature or whatever forces you believe in. In a metaphysical sort of way, I can see it as wrong and disrespectful. If we were advocating materialism, then a dead body is a dead body, nothing more.

As something that is only conscious in life and not death, I can't really speak on my own corpse, but I am not yet decided on the matter of other people's corpses - meaty ones that is.

 

[Aramea]

I have never believed in victimless crimes. Who is the victim in necrophilia, keeping in mind that I consider a dead body a slab of meat with no real humanity left.

That said, I would be leary of the mental stability of a person that would be attracted to a cold dead body. What, you can't find a nubile high schooler or little old lady? Sheep? When the living fetishes don't do it for you, you are in big trouble ...

 

[BigApplePi]

I learned about necrophilia through absorption of information. I never actually figured out whether the term referred to skeletons or meaty corpses.

True. What approach shall we take? We could go and say it's selfish for trying to claim your dead body which then belongs to Nature or whatever forces you believe in. In a metaphysical sort of way, I can see it as wrong and disrespectful. If we were advocating materialism, then a dead body is a dead body, nothing more.

As something that is only conscious in life and not death, I can't really speak on my own corpse, but I am not yet decided on the matter of other people's corpses - meaty ones that is.

I may not be ready to make a decision for myself on this issue but it's my understanding most will like to take the body to an alternate locale within three days unless refrigeration is under consideration. This leaves me to think there is only a small window of opportunity for those studying the OP (original post) to judge criminality. I am not taking up the refrigeration issue as I will leave that to those on this board undertaking (watch the pun there fella) advanced study.

Forgive me if I have evaded your original concern, re: meaty vs. bony. Are you talking scraping meat off bones because that never occurred to me till now?

 

[BigApplePi]

I have never believed in victimless crimes. Who is the victim in necrophilia, keeping in mind that I consider a dead body a slab of meat with no real humanity left.

That said, I would be leary of the mental stability of a person that would be attracted to a cold dead body. What, you can't find a nubile high schooler or little old lady? Sheep? When the living fetishes don't do it for you, you are in big trouble ...

Yes. One might be able to find a live body yet to be deceased who with the proper acting academy training might be able to simulate the called for condition. In their place I would rule out nubiles though. Nubiles tend to be fidgity, not that I would know.

Added: You asked about victims. The victims would be members of the immediate family. We have to be careful here to rule out perpetrators who are themselves family members. There would have to be a DNA check.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I may not be ready to make a decision for myself on this issue but it's my understanding most will like to take the body to an alternate locale within three days unless refrigeration is under consideration. This leaves me to think there is only a small window of opportunity for those studying the OP (original post) to judge criminality. I am not taking up the refrigeration issue as I will leave that to those on this board undertaking (watch the pun there fella) advanced study.

Are you saying only fresh corpses will be used? I'm sure there are people out there that might be partial to rotten corpses.

Forgive me if I have evaded your original concern, re: meaty vs. bony. Are you talking scraping meat off bones because that never occurred to me till now?

Meaty - > Flesh necrophilia
Bony - > Skeleton necrophilia

 

[BigApplePi]

Are you saying only fresh corpses will be used? I'm sure there are people out there that might be partial to rotten corpses.

You are dead right on there Icy. I must be guilty of narrow thinking. This subject has to be divided into the two named categories.

It is my personal wish that those who are considering lawful or unlawful actions in this respect make an appearance on this board. Volunteers? Pure speculation by the non-participating is not the way to ultimately go in my view. More "hands-on" opinions here to this thread?

 

[EyeSeeCold]

You are dead right on there Icy. I must be guilty of narrow thinking. This subject has to be divided into the two named categories.

It is my personal wish that those who are considering lawful or unlawful actions in this respect make an appearance on this board. Volunteers? Pure speculation by the non-participating is not the way to ultimately go in my view. More "hands-on" opinions here to this thread?

I'm all in, though I see a hole that might prove a hardship in the long run.

The only people who have a real opinion are the practitioners and the emotionally attached of the deceased. But the act is already illegal, so how do we gain the experience to judge?

 

[pjoa09]

it's not wrong as long as the family of the involuntary sex partner doesnt mind.

but then I would kinda say its rape? she didnt ask for it and you are giving it to her.

but then again it does no harm to her.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

it's not wrong as long as the family of the involuntary sex partner doesnt mind.

but then I would kinda say its rape? she didnt ask for it and you are giving it to her.

but then again it does no harm to her.

Necrosexist.

 

[BigApplePi]

Necrosexist.

Please. Please. Please. If you are a necrophiliac make your presence known. Many would like to hear your side. This is the one place where you need not fear others' bias. Even should that appear I'm sure someone here will come to your defense. You need not feel alone. So cease your lurking and post post post.