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Do you guys ever stop thinking?

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Yesterday I was wondering what it must be like being an ESFP, do these people think much? Whenever I am not thinking it is either because I am asleep or because I told myself not to, but then I end up thinking again 5 seconds later.
The reason I stop myself from thinking is because I am worried my brain might need a rest, or because it might get me a headache.
 

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Depends on how you define thinking?

I clear my mind with meditation.
 

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I don't always have coherent thought, but I am usually thinking.
 

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I remember my psych telling me I had "racing thoughts." I haven't looked it up until now, but:
Racing thoughts refers to the rapid thought patterns that often occur in manic, hypomanic, or mixed episodes.
Racing thoughts may be experienced as background or take over a person's consciousness. Thoughts, music, and voices might be zooming through one's mind as they jump tangentially from one to the next.

Some treatments and techniques involve, writing out the thoughts that are swirling around in the mind in order to get them out of the mind and onto paper.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_thoughts

holy shit I have this all the time... Which is weird because it says 'during manic episodes'...
Sometimes it gets pretty bad, to a point where I'd call it "manic." But usually it just means my mind is enthusiastically jumping all over the place. And I always have a song playing in the background. Right now it's Ask Yourself, by Foster the People. It's like I have a radio station in my head and the channel gets changed a lot.

The part about writing was funny because that's exactly what I do when it gets really bad or to a scary point.
 

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I would do anything to be able to escape my own thoughts, I exhaust myself everyday, and leave myself with a headache every night.

Meditation does't come easy to me when there are distractions, whether it be my laptop or people. I can sort of get a break when I'm out in the woods, or relaxing in the bath.

I require more conviction.

I was in the living room with my ESFJ and ESFP friends last night.. The ESFJ requested both of our attentions so she could read out some long ass, supposedly humorous post from her facebook feed. I was on the laptop and deep in thought doing some things, so I was rolling eyeballs. I semi payed attention for the first 2 minutes, then she sort of became a blur in my peripheral vision as my eye's diverted back to what I was doing, and then I couldn't hear her at all.

But a minute later she tapped me for attention and I had to listen for another minute, fake laughing at the appropriate times. I wondered why the ESFP wasn't coming to my rescue by taking an interest and drawing attention away from me.. I looked over, and she had bloody fell asleep!

I had to feign interest then for another minute or too. The whole while wondering why ESFJ's are so fucking... Naive when it come's to reading people.

Oh and the ESFJ accidentally killed her hamster the other day. I thought it died of natural causes, but when I inquired she informed me that it couldn't get to it's water and it over heated... Because the silly bint put the hamster on one side of a large cage, whilst leaving it's water on the other with an elaborate labyrinth to navigate.
 

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I remember my psych telling me I had "racing thoughts." I haven't looked it up until now, but:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_thoughts

holy shit I have this all the time... Which is weird because it says 'during manic episodes'...
Sometimes it gets pretty bad, to a point where I'd call it "manic." But usually it just means my mind is enthusiastically jumping all over the place. And I always have a song playing in the background. Right now it's Ask Yourself, by Foster the People. It's like I have a radio station in my head and the channel gets changed a lot.

The part about writing was funny because that's exactly what I do when it gets really bad or to a scary point.

Are you Ne dominant...?

I think you're suggesting Si with the music track thing, mayhaps?
 

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I remember my psych telling me I had "racing thoughts." I haven't looked it up until now, but:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_thoughts

holy shit I have this all the time... Which is weird because it says 'during manic episodes'...
Sometimes it gets pretty bad, to a point where I'd call it "manic." But usually it just means my mind is enthusiastically jumping all over the place. And I always have a song playing in the background. Right now it's Ask Yourself, by Foster the People. It's like I have a radio station in my head and the channel gets changed a lot.

The part about writing was funny because that's exactly what I do when it gets really bad or to a scary point.

Manic is a symptom of mental illness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mania
 

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Do you guys ever stop thinking?

No.
 

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I would do anything to be able to escape my own thoughts, I exhaust myself everyday, and leave myself with a headache every night.

Meditation does't come easy to me when there are distractions, whether it be my laptop or people. I can sort of get a break when I'm out in the woods, or relaxing in the bath.

I require more conviction.

I would expect mindfulness meditation to come easier than concentrative meditation then, ja?

I agree that a strong physical stimulus will promote getting out of one's head... when I am engaged in a physical task I use Se, as one would expect. Navigating environmental terrain would presumably utilise an ISTP mode of thinking.

I find that even with heavy Se use there's still a monologue-esque thought train going on, though it's more pushed to the background.
 

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Manic is a symptom of mental illness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mania

I have two anxiety disorders, OCD, and emotional dysregulation.
I'm also recovering from years of depression. (All diagnosed by professionals)


Are you Ne dominant...?

I think you're suggesting Si with the music track thing, mayhaps?

I'm an INTP.

I never really stop "thinking" I guess. Or it's rare to not have something at least in the background of my mind (like a song)
 

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I would expect mindfulness meditation to come easier than concentrative meditation then, ja?

Most definitely.

I agree that a strong physical stimulus will promote getting out of one's head... when I am engaged in a physical task I use Se, as one would expect. Navigating environmental terrain would presumably utilise an ISTP mode of thinking.

Ohh, so that's what being an ISTP is like.. I'm intrigued by an ISTP I know.

I find that even with heavy Se use there's still a monologue-esque thought train going on, though it's more pushed to the background.

Yes.
 

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Usually when I watch trumps speeches I stop thinking.
 
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I don't think I got an on off switch for this lol. Maybe relax is to forget? I just couldn't do that at all, and why do I need it? But if i can, I rather resolve the thoughts or chase them away. Hated the daydreams at work times.
 

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Ohh, so that's what being an ISTP is like.. I'm intrigued by an ISTP I know.

Yeah that's one aspect.

Looking at the functions gives a good overview, too.

Ti+Se(+Ni+Fe) -> self-protectively analysing the environment around oneself, keeping in mind one's personal development

Whereas ESTP prefers to engage actively with what's going on, ISTP can be fine simply observing.
 

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Yeah that's one aspect.

Looking at the functions gives a good overview, too.

Ti+Se(+Ni+Fe) -> self-protectively analysing the environment around oneself, keeping in mind one's personal development

Whereas ESTP prefers to engage actively with what's going on, ISTP can be fine simply observing.

Yea.. For a minute, I remembered how it felt to be ..mindful, present and calm.. and I could relate for a second with what it must be like to be that ISTP.

He reminds me of a lake. Odd I know. Lake placid... Well a placid lake at least. I found the waters disturbingly calm, and so I retreated back into my angry storm.
 

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Yea.. For a minute, I remembered how it felt to be ..mindful, present and calm.. and I could relate for a second with what it must be like to be that ISTP.

He reminds me of a lake. Odd I know. Lake placid... Well a placid lake at least. I found the waters disturbingly calm, and so I retreated back into my angry storm.

I like listening to Wu Tang Clan and comparing the bouncy energy of the other members with GZA's total laidbackedness. (though even HE loses his cool at times...)

(GZA is probably INTP - wordplay and all that)

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ALSO: a lot of the time with ISTP's, I don't know that calm would be the right word to use. They can be very hypervigiliant. The self-protectiveness can leave them very wary of making a wrong move.
 

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I like listening to Wu Tang Clan and comparing the bouncy energy of the other members with GZA's total laidbackedness. (though even HE loses his cool at times...)

(GZA is probably INTP - wordplay and all that)

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ALSO: a lot of the time with ISTP's, I don't know that calm would be the right word to use. They can be very hypervigiliant. The self-protectiveness can leave them very wary of making a wrong move.


Oh yea, his energy was all coiled up.. Could be felt but not seen, save for in his eye's.. which were focused.. But too focused not to be masking hyper vigilance.

That wary of making a wrong move.. he didn't move. He verbally confirmed as much too, battling between action and inaction.

You've got me listening to Wu Tang now.
 

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Oh yea, his energy was all coiled up.. Could be felt but not seen, save for in his eye's.. which were focused.. But too focused not to be masking hyper vigilance.

That wary of making a wrong move.. he didn't move. He verbally confirmed as much too, battling between action and inaction.

Heh, he may benefit from the Bhagavad Gita...

I think the focused-ness is a good way of telling ISTP from INTP, whose eyes can be more dart-y (although I could be taking facial cues too seriously... I think it is true enough).

You've got me listening to Wu Tang now.

There's a really neat connection between the 9 members and the Jungian Functions.
 

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This is very likely. I don't ever stop entertaining myself with crazy visions. Trust me I would end up in mental ward if I was speaking them aloud. I'm already in the gray zone when it comes to that.

Are your thoughts like advanced abstract mathematics? I know that I frequently categorise my thoughts like in set theory.
 

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Yesterday I was wondering what it must be like being an ESFP, do these people think much? Whenever I am not thinking it is either because I am asleep or because I told myself not to, but then I end up thinking again 5 seconds later.
The reason I stop myself from thinking is because I am worried my brain might need a rest, or because it might get me a headache.


Yes. You can stop thinking all together. I tried it after I practiced the Power of Now by Elkhart Tolle for 3 months. I felt like I truely lived. I discovered a world beyond our world, it is called conciousness and I was in a hive mind hearing other people's thoughts, then it got way too confusing.

But then thoughts took over again.
 

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Are your thoughts like advanced abstract mathematics? I know that I frequently categorise my thoughts like in set theory.

Yes!, I know exactly what you mean. It's mostly philosophical and semantic for me, but the structure of it all is abstract to the point it could be described only with formal languages such as mathematics. Gets really annoying and boring sometimes when it's the same thought processes over and over again and you're looking at the same patterns.
 

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No, obviously not, it's hard to stop when I have to. I've had to practice to turn off the brain before and during sleep. I enjoy thinking so much I do it all day, every moment and opportunity I can.
 

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I remember my psych telling me I had "racing thoughts." I haven't looked it up until now, but:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_thoughts

holy shit I have this all the time... Which is weird because it says 'during manic episodes'...
Sometimes it gets pretty bad, to a point where I'd call it "manic." But usually it just means my mind is enthusiastically jumping all over the place. And I always have a song playing in the background. Right now it's Ask Yourself, by Foster the People. It's like I have a radio station in my head and the channel gets changed a lot.

The part about writing was funny because that's exactly what I do when it gets really bad or to a scary point.

LOL my psychologist said the same thing
 

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I have actual manic depression and I did not think for 9 1/2 years when I took lithium. Before I took lithium I thought all the time. After i got off lithium, now I take other medicines, I think all the time. I did not enjoy not being able to think for 9 1/2 years. Well I suppose I did think a little bit very slowly but it was not really like thinking.
 

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Usually when I watch trumps speeches I stop thinking.

"I'm going to do a lot. I have already created MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of jobs. The american people love me, the economists love me. I will HELP the economy a lot."
 
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