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Different route to introversion

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As a person who is completely introverted with parents that have large desires to socialize everytime they see a welcomed visitor, the main reason I turned introverted is simply because of poor socialization skills as the result of being born nearly deaf and there is not much point into talking about random subjects that seemingly have little into importance. Over the years, I have been converted into complete introversion not willing to talk to any extrovert that just appear bright as an average person. I'd prefer to spend time developing artistic skills and knowledge about scientific things such as biology and genetics rather than spending time going into parties. My views of the world is that the world is actually darker than what the average people see the world and the truth is there if you actually try to think differently while observing.

As for other information about me.
--I wasn't born from a english-speaking country
--I'm very much anti-school, but I'm not against education and knowledge development at all.
 

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Introversion is not a handicap, it's an inclination. I enjoy people, I talk to them and I'm an introvert.
 

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So basically it's all a matter of rose-colored glasses and people unwilling to face the truth?

I think you'll do great here.

Welcome!
 

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So basically it's all a matter of rose-colored glasses and people unwilling to face the truth?

I think you'll do great here.

Welcome!

It has a lot to do with living with people that are willing to use ignorance and denial to go against a person who have a very different viewpoints while they both come to different conclusions. The main reason why people tend to use ignorance and denial rather than reasoning and solving in things like belief system and conclusion about life-affecting matters is because that is their defense against looking into possibilities of their beliefs being wrong or they choose to do so just to try to keep their viewpoints or they just do not want to know in the first place. It's easier for them to simply go into denial right away which allows them room for solving the problem or allows them room to show their willingness of not accepting the truth.

A very good example should clarify what I mean which is creationist v. evolutionist. The creationist usually try to use one resource to use to develop their argument while evolutionist keeps looking for evidences to back up certain claims and when they do come to argument, the creationist usually loses due to the fact that they do not have much evidence to back up certain claims while denying the evidence that proves them wrong.

Introversion is not a handicap, it's an inclination. I enjoy people, I talk to them and I'm an introvert.

You're in a shade of gray between introversion and extroversion. What shade of gray are you in?

Introversion is a social personality trait which is influenced by social genetics that affects development of the brain as well as experience which influences the decision when it comes to socialization. Brain scans may have shown that introverted people have different brain processing than extroverted people, but that only shows they perceive the world in different way and uses the world in different way rather than malfunctions. Social skills doesn't always determine intellectual capacity. Social skills just shows how developed is your brain in the social area rather than other parts of the brain, but there is other aspects of the brain which is part of a factor to neurological capability. There are cases which shows disability influenced choices related to socialization and this case of mine just shows this.
 

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Some of the points made in this thread are related to the reason why I hate philosophical debates. What happens is you get a subject that people have strong opinions about (creationism vs. evolution, say), they get all riled up and their voices slowly rise even as they remain pretty reasonable. Eventually things get down to very fundamental concepts (in this example, the ability of the universe vs. God to exist forever without some external cause) and people's assumptions become axioms which can't be supported, and once you're at the level of differing axioms all that happens is namecalling or worse, or else agreement to disagree. In any case it's a huge exercise in futility.

Anyway, welcome.
 

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As a person who is completely introverted with parents that have large desires to socialize everytime they see a welcomed visitor, the main reason I turned introverted is simply because of poor socialization skills as the result of being born nearly deaf and there is not much point into talking about random subjects that seemingly have little into importance.
Introverts do not come into existence as a result of god punishing extroverts.


If being an introvert is a disability then so is being as extrovert. It has it's advantages in the same way being an introvert does. There are no "more useful than others" personalities, if you have a dominant introverted function, then that is your strength. And if it subtracts from your ability to be more in touch with you outer world, so be it, it is not necessary for everyone to be able to do everything.
 

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Some of the points made in this thread are related to the reason why I hate philosophical debates. What happens is you get a subject that people have strong opinions about (creationism vs. evolution, say), they get all riled up and their voices slowly rise even as they remain pretty reasonable. Eventually things get down to very fundamental concepts (in this example, the ability of the universe vs. God to exist forever without some external cause) and people's assumptions become axioms which can't be supported, and once you're at the level of differing axioms all that happens is namecalling or worse, or else agreement to disagree. In any case it's a huge exercise in futility.

Anyway, welcome.

You already have said it all. The fact that there is no clear answer for certain philosophical debates just increases the problem between opposing viewpoints simply because there is no evidence to back up the claim entirely hence leaving a lot of room for spreading name-calling and ignorance. Things goes down into a different subject due to the fact that people were asking for it and they just go with the demands. All I can think of the reason for asking is that they are wanting conflicts later on for the sake of it. Philosophical debate can be used for reasoning exercising in many different subjects. Indeed, in the end, it is pointless to try to prove the unprovable.

Introverts do not come into existence as a result of god punishing extroverts.


If being an introvert is a disability then so is being as extrovert. It has it's advantages in the same way being an introvert does. There are no "more useful than others" personalities, if you have a dominant introverted function, then that is your strength. And if it subtracts from your ability to be more in touch with you outer world, so be it, it is not necessary for everyone to be able to do everything.

I was only trying to say that my physical disability influenced my social personality choice and what evidence do you have to show that I think introversion is a disability? Personality is the way of how people behave and disability are physical or mental condition which affects the potential of the individual in certain tasks.

Just a thought of mine just to clear things up. A deaf person is a disabled person due to the fact the deaf would not be able to hear sounds and a rebellious person just have a disobedience behavior/personality.

Here's a quote to read.

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Brain scans may have shown that introverted people have different brain processing than extroverted people, but that only shows they perceive the world in different way and uses the world in different way rather than malfunctions. Social skills doesn't always determine intellectual capacity. Social skills just shows how developed is your brain in the social area rather than other parts of the brain, but there is other aspects of the brain which is part of a factor to neurological capability. There are cases which shows disability influenced choices related to socialization and this case of mine just shows this.
 

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there is not much point into talking about random subjects that seemingly have little into importance

This is classic INTP dislike of smalltalk :)

I can empathize with your dislike of socialization but I'd encourage you to seek out other introverts to socialize with. I've learned ideas are much more interesting when discussed with other people.
 

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The only problem with finding introverted people is that it's rare to find one good one in a place full of people with dominant characteristics. It seems like that there are 2 introverted in one class of mine and I'm the only introvert in the rest of the class. The other introverted isn't willing to talk to me. I'm stuck with social butterflies for now.
 

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I was only trying to say that my physical disability influenced my social personality choice and what evidence do you have to show that I think introversion is a disability? Personality is the way of how people behave and disability are physical or mental condition which affects the potential of the individual in certain tasks.

Just a thought of mine just to clear things up. A deaf person is a disabled person due to the fact the deaf would not be able to hear sounds and a rebellious person just have a disobedience behavior/personality.

Here's a quote to read.

I just did quote it actually, here I'll do it again:
the main reason I turned introverted is simply because of poor socialization skills as the result of being born nearly deaf and there is not much point into talking about random subjects that seemingly have little into importance.
You are appear to be defining introversion as simply lacking social skills, it is far more than that. In fact, I have pretty good social skills and I am still an introvert. It is not a choice, we don't get to choose what personality we have, and it certainly does not result from a hearing impairment.
 

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Personalities can change toward experience and I already have tried socializing properly for so long as a child till I finally have gave up. Also, over the years listening to conversations trying to decode what people are saying just gives me even more reason why to go through socializing when there is better things to do. People personality are not always affected by birth situations and there's plenty of evidence out there that do show experience influences behavior. Here's one word which is psychology. Yes, introversion can come from genetics nonetheless.

My definition of introversion is simply not willing to socialize or lacking desire to socialize.
 

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It's not the matter of "socializing" itself. It's the topic that you talk about that provides as an indirect energy power source. It's a matter of what things you want to talk about, and for that, introverts would be more than willing to socialize, (e.g. this forum and yourself already communicating with us.)

If you can't find interest in direct small talk, there are always interesting ways to go about it indirectly.
 
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