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kamari rised

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What if we were meant to live at night and sleep during the day?
 

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What do you mean? Hypothetically?

I'm pretty sure humans are biologically predisposed towards wakefulness during the hours of the sun.
 

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We'd have bigger eyes and pale skin. And we'd possibly live underground?
 

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Not sure what you mean by 'meant' in this context.
 

kamari rised

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I mean by the context of in the beginning of time. (kinda)

What if before we had homes and daily living, We were supposed to sleep during the day and live during the night.

Back aloooong time ago before light pollution, Why would people sleep during the most beautiful part of the day? The stars were probably amazing and everything.

While during the day the sun, we have the sun which does bring light, but also causes stress to our bodies, such as tension in the eyes, brain, body's.

While during the night, we have the moon and stars, We become more alive because no stress. The only stress that we would have is the stress of trying to adapt to seeing better in the dark. Which will build over time, to where we don't stress. Because we have adapted towards it.

At night because of the less in-coming stimuli which allows us to focus more, and be more relaxed towards whatever we are doing. According to some articles I have read; While learning and reading and thinking during the night allows us to go into higher thinking. I can find them and put them in here if you want, just ask.

If the sun is energy;
Than what if we were supposed to sleep during the day time in order to gain energy from the sun from a relaxed state. *like a plant*
(than at night we would have an immense amount of energy to grow/evolve and keep it through being relaxed)

But since we are awake during the day, instead of gaining the energy from the sun, we are having to use our own energy in order to sense in-coming stimuli mostly through never ending stress.

And because we use our own energy in order to sense in-coming stimuli, we will never have enough energy to beat the sun (massive amounts of energy).

So with that being said. What if were only gaining energy from the foods that we eat and sleep. Than wasting it on the next days events.

Rather than gaining energy from the sun during the day, and using our energy in a relaxed way to evolve and keep gaining energy.

(We tense during the days in order to learn and react. Try to notice yourself tensing and relieve it, Than you can find yourself getting more loose, and more energy.)


Just a theory lol, But I just want to know what you guys think when it comes to this, if you are open enough to try and understand. (wink_wakeup INTPS)
 

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It's a very interesting theory but if we sleep outdoors all day in an effort to photosynthesize then won't we get skin cancer? At the very least I imagine we will be very sun burned.

I have however noticed that my mind is somehow clearer at night, I always have my deepest philosophical thoughts and feel more motivated to do things. I also love the stars and the night air. If everyone else lived at night I wouldn't mind doing so.
 

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It's a very interesting theory but if we sleep outdoors all day in an effort to photosynthesize then won't we get skin cancer? At the very least I imagine we will be very sun burned.

I have however noticed that my mind is somehow clearer at night, I always have my deepest philosophical thoughts and feel more motivated to do things. I also love the stars and the night air. If everyone else lived at night I wouldn't mind doing so.

My theory on that of skin cancer, would have to be from the actual stress. Let's see, If we do this on a daily basis.

Do animals get skin cancer?

When sleeping your relaxed. (pure relaxation)

If you have ever meditated, do you notice that when your fully relaxed, but your mind is aware you start to get in discomfort and want to just sleep or get out of it? But if you insist to stay and keep going, You start sweating and get very warm. That is you, yourself gaining energy.

Maybe skin cancer is cause by extreme tension in a certain area, Which causes you to keep focused on that area, which than creates a chemical reaction so that you can be immuned to the pain from extreme tension. But the chemical reaction gets blocked up by some sort of toxins that expire or something. idk just saying theoretically.

But from a relaxed state, Your "body" can be more open to incoming (external energy) and

Either you can learn how to keep your mind on pain or pleasure.
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You have you have to learn how to keep your mind off the pain i guess in saying, don't over analyze the fact that you got burned and keep focusing on the pain. (distract yourself, Embrace without guilt kinda moto, meditate it off, etc)

Change the burn (internally) into excitement.

Also with that being said, Perhaps the sun gives us the "feeling" sense of pain. because of the stress and tension.


But than again I can be totally off. I just tend to put thing's together in a funny way.
 

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The body will only produce melatonin in full darkness and that completely contradicts your theory.

Though it's quite possible that the 8hrs of sleep and 16 hrs of wakefulness cycle is forced on us by modern living and culture. Segmented sleep cycles could have been the historic norm.
 

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Though it's quite possible that the 8hrs of sleep and 16 hrs of wakefulness cycle is forced on us by modern living and culture. Segmented sleep cycles could have been the historic norm.

I agree with this. I don't think humans were meant to go 16+ hour stretches without sleep.
 

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The question is why do we sleep? In this theory, we sleep mainly due to stress. But if were living through the night/relaxed state, we won't stress. we probably have a great amount of focused energy (flow). No sleep would be the main problem in my opinion.

And Adaire I'm gonna look up the psychology/psiology and biology on melatonin. and get back to you.
 

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To quote wiki;

Production of melatonin by the pineal gland is inhibited by light to the retina and permitted by darkness. Its onset each evening is called the dim-light melatonin onset (DLMO). It is principally blue light, around 460 to 480 nm, that suppresses melatonin,[32] increasingly with increased light intensity and length of exposure. Until recent history, humans in temperate climates were exposed to few hours of (blue) daylight in the winter; their fires gave predominantly yellow light. Wearing glasses that block blue light in the hours before bedtime may avoid melatonin loss. Kayumov et al. showed that light containing only wavelengths greater than 530 nm does not suppress melatonin in bright-light conditions.[33] Use of blue-blocking goggles the last hours before bedtime has also been advised for people who need to adjust to an earlier bedtime, as melatonin promotes sleepiness. [34]
When used several hours before sleep according to the phase response curve for melatonin in humans, small amounts of melatonin shift the circadian clock earlier, thus promoting earlier sleep onset and morning awakening.[35]


Basically, light hitting the retina in a certain wavelength inhibits melatonin production. Then at night the retina is exposed to less light and so melatonin production is increased, resulting in sleep after a certain amount of time. However, I'd imagine the "blue" light from a laptops screen will keep you awake a bit longer. Addiction to computer games solved?
 
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