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Confession of a hater.

crippli

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No doubt, experiencing strong emotions strengthens the sensation of being a conscious, seemingly independent self. Do you think some people who revel in strong emotions do so because generating them refreshes the feeling of self-sufficiency in origination of thoughts and feelings, of being an independent self? Could such a renewed feeling of independence in turn act enable a bold persuasion, a feeling of one's ownership of something external, something dependent? And could the reinforcement of that feeling of ownership vindicate the feeling of independence associated with the origination, forming a self-stabilizing loop? Is this how the feeling of ownership and strong emotions are interrelated?
I am trying to compile. If I got that right. That a sort of equilibrium is reached is possible. With effort perhaps. Don't you think for most, it's more like any other drug trip? And what generates the euphoria the first time, isn't going to do so easily the next time. So it might as easily take one off the cliff?

Not at all sure when and if balance will be achieved, or when it will not. Or who pay the cost of the euphoria. I would think balance is more often achieved that route. That the materialization of ones strong feelings comes from the 'ownership' being taken from someone else. Resources is gained, and self sufficiency ensured.

Haven't thought enough about this enough to make a guess as to what takes what paths. Your proposal is interesting though. Makes it sound positive :)
 

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I`m mostly indifferent to everything, although I know the difference between right and wrong, and I do have likes and dislikes, and am capable of sympathy, empathy, and compassion.

My biggest dislikes would have to be having to interact with strong Fi dominant people and bossy people. Now, the more logical a person is, the more I can tolerate their bossiness, but I can`t stand an emotional, bossy person. For instance, I`m very uninterested when people complain about their coffee and other trivial matters, but will still pretend to care anyway, though I don`t have to pretend to feel sorry if someone`s family member is sick or something, then I really am compassionate. If someone`s bossily coercing me into doing something that at least makes objective sense, it`s not as bad as if someone were to boss me to do something that only makes sense to that emotional someone. Closed mindedness is another strong dislike of mine.

But are we talking about pet peeves? If it`s a topic that`s solely about hate, then I have nothing much to contribute. I find that avoiding strong feelings one way or another to overwhelm me helps me maintain a more balanced, peaceful mindset. Learning that the way in which you act, actually affects strongly how you feel as well, really helped me come to a greater peace within my mind and with the outside world.
 

Tannhauser

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Hate is good. I'd rather exploit it for momentum towards change rather than subdue it and accept things as they are. I'll leave the maintenance of emotional neutrality to the monks in caves.
 

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I tend to try and avoid hate in general as I often am unable to follow through with thoughts borne of hate since my inhibitions continually bug me and just prevent me from doing anything even semi productive. I do however dislike things but that doesn't achieve anything in particular it just kinda guides me to avoid certain things and actions.
 

Sly-fy

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I tend to try and avoid hate in general as I often am unable to follow through with thoughts borne of hate since my inhibitions continually bug me and just prevent me from doing anything even semi productive. I do however dislike things but that doesn't achieve anything in particular it just kinda guides me to avoid certain things and actions.

I`m with you there. I find that hateful thoughts just mess with my head and in no way benefit me or my surroundings. Some say that works of art are born out of strong feelings like hate or despair, but I find most motivation to be creatively artistic when I`m in an inspired, positive disposition.
 

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Hate is a strong word. But I hate it.
I hate the poeple around me.
I hate people who come too close from me: ideologically as well as physically.
I hate the people who think like me.
I hate proximity.
My family;the people who chose the same job as me; My " friends"; My neighbours; The people I date; The people who love me. I hate them all.
I try very hard to like them. I do. But I still don't.
Distance. I love distance. I love mystery. I love difference. I love people. I love discovery. I love aliens. I love chaos.

Now tell me INTP, what do you hate so much?

:twisteddevil::twisteddevil::twisteddevil::twisteddevil::twisteddevil::twisteddevil:

I too hate everyone around me. Most people are boring and basic and loud and annoying. WIsh I can elaborate but I'm sure I'll offend people. :rolleyes:
 

Cipher

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I hate inconsistency.
I hate it when the world doesn't match the patterns in my head and I can't figure out why.
I hate inconsistent self-images, worldviews and value systems.

And I hate food that just doesn't make sense. Whoever made that sweet-salty bullshit up can go die.
 

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Out of all the things in the world and you're pissed because you don't like it when people mix certain foods together.. That's great.
 

Cipher

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Mixing them in some cases just doesn't make sense! And people act like it does.
That's some superb hypocrisy right there. And it irritates the heck out of me.
The same goes for drinking alcohol because it "tastes good".
Except in this case people at least have reasons to pretend it does.

Oh whatever. I get pissed off at reasonable things too, no worries.
 

QuickTwist

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Mixing them in some cases just doesn't make sense! And people act like it does.
That's some superb hypocrisy right there. And it irritates the heck out of me.
The same goes for drinking alcohol because it "tastes good".
Except in this case people at least have reasons to pretend it does.

Oh whatever. I get pissed off at reasonable things too, no worries.

I hope you stick around.
 
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