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Well, let's discuss the word "CONSUMER"

No ken of it's history or origin (Americano?)


But I've just thought of: Appreciator vs Consumer

So: One who takes in for the sake of taking in (Animal therefore, but one that might be able to solve quantum thingies etc., etc. thus pretentious CEO eating caviar while playing candy crush in meetings or something) (((EDIT: No wait error fuck CEO playing candy crush might just be a sort of appreciator... hmmm. you see these terms are nor rigid, more like... how a person acts towards the world regardless of how the world acts towards them... stubborn? Stupid? perhaps, but enjoying it)


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Human who places the appreciation of consuming above the consuming, ie: someone who is happy to live next to river, haggard, starving, catching occasional fish and stealing from farms but... hearing streams... understanding/liking emotions of most others... peaceful... hermit-like?

well, sorta this: Human who goes human and human who... transcends? Not philosophically, scientifically or menial shit like that but just elementarily, in each moment living like an animal(ie: SENSES!!! but just... overcoming age-old instincts, trading the drive of survival for the ever unfolding esoteriscm of appreciation for being alive)

((Ok I had some wine so autocorrect much but idea is idea if... I make sense discuss, how do you think of word "consumer" and how would you feel about appreciator/consumer comparison?)))


EDITEDIT::: Realms of brain take presedence, dominant organ... Consumers vs imaginators? Consuming to imagine vs. consuming consume more? well... many instaincts many prototypes many personalities... not my place to classify, no, my place to ask you how one can classify without... generalizing? perhaps not pos for one ape... rather go of in front sight, waht eyes see heart feels.



EDIT3: Ok jus wanna make clear not creating 1 vs the other scenario... more like proportions(subjective by individual, not collective/outside estimation, unless coherent minisucle collective.... so.... hmmmm.... person's view of what they are, every moment, all moments coalesced?
 

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Seems like the difference between someone who buys cheap beer so they can have lots of it (not all at once) and someone who buys the more expensive but also better tasting beer because they're buying it to enjoy it, not to have it every day.

Consumers buy crap because it's cheap, they buy in bulk because it's cheaper, they buy stuff they don't even want because it's "a good deal", they consume for the sake of consuming.
 

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I think they're both consumers, but they're different demographics with different motives?

Those who are living hand to mouth and thus consume as dictated by opportunity vs. those who have the privilege of choosing and appreciating?

This works in my mind for what you're saying, but then you talk about this man by the river. Is he supposed to be the one who, rather than be dictated by his SES, manages to achieve this second type of consumerism against all odds? Seems possible but there would be a difference in representation across wealth foreshore.
 

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Yes ..... I agree completely, taking the destruction of my relative statement even farther:

Had epiphany, no disctions in action or even social perception/purephilosophical concepts or "uralien m8" (This is "You are an alien mate" that is: look at the world as if the moment was the first ie: the truest scientific sentiment, almost science aspiring towards shamanism)

SO:Perhaps this consumer/other form can summed better as posit thus:

Appreciators would be people who judge themselves to be in tune with world, or enlightened or what the fuck else. SO criteria maybe very "subjective" (I hold that subjectivity is merely complex systems to we try to shy away from as apes but need to embrace for we are the complex systems that are subjective (Hold Opinions ... Judge ... Nicholas Taleb?)

So... maybe how a person feels in the world... some might pervert this infinitely flowing chain of human minds with the overfucked word happiness, happy happy joy.

(Even then a nurse who took 45 lives of patients after her husband left her for her brother, even she who stares at the white walls of the prison, imagining worlds richer than those of Tolkien, Homer and Hebrew Scribes and at times the utter bulk of history. Yet she nevers shares her godly creations, never writes or speaks. Then she is given an injection)

Maybe riverman is gollum like and mad, raving, even if aesthetically pleased.

CE0 may have cancer but is contented by having left enough money for his entire extended family... his brokering house will live into the ages as nobles, challenging perhaps the house of Hapsburg (Thus playing candy crush and eating fish children is a way to say -fuck u life, fuck u planet, i enjoyed the ride and am spreading my legacy, my extended and ingrained complexity, by helping those that i care for.
 
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