Childfree club

[Nebula]

Reveal yourselves, childfree folks

 

[Turniphead]

It would probably be easier for the people with children to make a club. My assumption is that child free is the majority.

 

[Nebula]

childfree=childless

childless/=childfree

 

[Turniphead]

So define your terms then.

 

[Nebula]

A childfree person is a person that doesn't have children and doesn't want to be a parent EVER.

 

[Jennywocky]

I have three kids, but two are almost out of high school and I'm not currently the custodial parent anyway.

 

[Nebula]

You don't count :P

 

[Jennywocky]

 

[Nebula]

Shhh!

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

This is a very uncommon (very common actually and empty) expectation of people making assumptions possibly much further into the future that they won't do something ever.

I don't have children however as selfish as I with my partner can become, we might want to choose to create some little copies of ourselves for some entirely selfish purposes, I cannot think about the benefit of the nonexistent child, because there is none when there is nothing.

 

[PmjPmj]

Two and a half weeks ago, I could have been in this club.

 

[Architect]

Where kids aren't alright

 

[Nebula]

This is a very uncommon (very common actually and empty) expectation of people making assumptions possibly much further into the future that they won't do something ever.

There are a lot of people who are pretty sure about it and a lot of them stick to their desicion.

Two and a half weeks ago, I could have been in this club.

My condolences? Congratulations?

 

[Architect]

Kids force you to both grow up and "grow young", however, many parents instead "grow stupid". It's up to you I guess.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

Forever childfree!




The best thing about being female is having complete and sole control over reproduction. It's a mystery to me why so few males get precautionary vasectomies.

 

[Nebula]

Forever childfree!

Welcome. Congratulations on using your J

having complete and sole control over reproduction

Not sure. As far as I know even a tubal ligation may fail. A hysterectomy is the answer

 

[Deleted member 1424]

That's a very invasive procedure and can have a lot of permanent side effects; plenty of better options.

 

[Jennywocky]

I always thought that guy would give Jame Gumb in SotL a run for his money....

 

[Amagi82]

Childfree by choice. The desire to breed has ebbed and flowed over time, but my wife and I made the decision years ago that the environment is more important than our desire to breed. There are waaaaay too many humans on this blue marble already. It is irresponsible and borderline sociopathic to add to our numbers until we learn to live sustainably.

 

[Helvete]

So if children get free entry, what do I have to pay?

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

It is irresponsible and borderline sociopathic to add to our numbers until we learn to live sustainably.

Why would you feel this obligation and not those that reproduce mindlessly? Adding a child to the milions is a drop that will not tip the scale, although it is reasonable to seek the solution while we are not starving and killing one another for living space.

 

[Helvete]

It is irresponsible and borderline sociopathic to add to our numbers until we learn to live sustainably.

Why would you feel this obligation and not those that reproduce mindlessly? Adding a child to the milions is a drop that will not tip the scale, although it is reasonable to seek the solution while we are not starving and killing one another for living space.

I agree. Not only should you choose not to have kids, but you should kill other children, on mass killing sprees. I suggest going to schools with a machine gun. Who'd have thought going back to school wouldn't be such a bore?

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

I agree. Not only should you choose not to have kids, but you should kill other children, on mass killing sprees. I suggest going to schools with a machine gun. Who'd have thought going back to school wouldn't be such a bore?

We have a solution.

If you use a car, plant two trees.

If you want a child, revisit school. (Reeducation or else?)

 

[Helvete]

We have a solution.

If you use a car, plant two trees.

If you want a child, revisit school. (Reeducation or else?)

Yes, and a third tree for the gun.

Graveyards are wasted space of reminisce, they should all be turned into forests.

Eugenics should be taught in schools, to produce nazi mindsets that'll help back resizing the population.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Yes, and a third tree for the gun.

Graveyards are wasted space of reminisce, they should all be turned into forests.

Eugenics should be taught in schools, to produce nazi mindsets that'll help back resizing the population.

Don't worry about Eugenics , it is deeply rooted in the mindset of improvement. As soon as the genetic engineering allows for that, there will be a market for "good babies".

 

[Jennywocky]

I agree. Not only should you choose not to have kids, but you should kill other children, on mass killing sprees. I suggest going to schools with a machine gun. Who'd have thought going back to school wouldn't be such a bore?

Hooray, natural selection at work!

Is there a cutoff age beyond which children cannot be legally harvested? Or can you travel to countries with a higher max of childhood age in order to expand your culling pool?

 

[Helvete]

Hooray, natural selection at work!

Is there a cutoff age beyond which children cannot be legally harvested? Or can you travel to countries with a higher max of childhood age in order to expand your culling pool?

I think one will be put in place soon enough, but personally I'd rather it remain a grey area.

 

[Turniphead]

Childfree by choice. The desire to breed has ebbed and flowed over time, but my wife and I made the decision years ago that the environment is more important than our desire to breed. There are waaaaay too many humans on this blue marble already. It is irresponsible and borderline sociopathic to add to our numbers until we learn to live sustainably.

This has been my stance for a long time.

 

[bemused]

When I was a brooding teenager I asked my mom why she brought me into the world against my will.

She provided no rational answers, just the typical emotive ones one expects of parents.

Needless to say, I never plan on having children.

 

[redbaron]

Cats and Corgis are better than children.

 

[Base groove]

Any man who announces he is never having children without proving it ... is full of shit. Same goes for the women. I know it was touched on earlier in this thread but there are medical procedures that can make your decisions all but certainties.

Myself, I would rather have 150 children. (why am I not donating to sperm banks?)

 

[TimeAsylums]

The desire to breed has ebbed and flowed over time

It's a mystery to me why so few males get precautionary vasectomies

full of shit

the deep, unconscious, and biological longing​

how long the entirety of humanity whimpered in fear of extinction, insofar as their perpetuation of rape and pedophilia

the many fears of the past continued in our minds, but lie in the unconscious, ever creeping

 

[bemused]

Any man who announces he is never having children without proving it ... is full of shit. Same goes for the women. I know it was touched on earlier in this thread but there are medical procedures that can make your decisions all but certainties.

Myself, I would rather have 150 children. (why am I not donating to sperm banks?)

are you insane?

anyway- what if the guy ONLY dates radically liberal/progressive women that want nothing to do with having children? and avoids the conventional girl-next-door like the plague.

EDIT: realizing the wording may be misinterpreted as meaning "well what if i only date women who love abortion". i didn't mean that way. i was referring to women who are either philosophically opposed to having children, or for some reason or another don't want them. dating people that share your childless worldview.

 

[Base groove]

are you insane?

Maybe a bit. Are you?

anyway- what if the guy ONLY dates radically liberal/progressive women that want nothing to do with having children? and avoids the conventional girl-next-door at all costs?

Then the guy will be either impregnating radically liberal/progressive women or he will be avoiding conventional standards at the cost of procreation...?

how long the entirety of humanity whimpered in fear of extinction, insofar as their perpetuation of rape and pedophilia

the many fears of the past continued in our minds, but lie in the unconscious, ever creeping

Yes, 1000 times yes.

 

[TimeAsylums]

the deep, unconscious, and biological longing​

how long the entirety of humanity whimpered in fear of extinction, insofar as their perpetuation of rape and pedophilia

the many fears of the past continued in our minds, but lie in the unconscious, ever creeping

Yes, 1000 times yes.

To be read in the voice of Morgan Freeman​

 

[bemused]

yeah you know some people practice safe sex and don't haphazardly sleep around. i agree there is a possibility of getting a woman knocked up, but if youre in relationship with another person and there is mutual agreement that you won't have children. i hate to break to you but they probably won't have children.

obviously accidents happen all the time and opinions change. but i assure you some people MEAN it when they say they won't have children.

 

[Turniphead]

On topic organization: http://www.vhemt.org/

 

[Turniphead]

yeah you know some people practice safe sex

Didn't you know Base groove is a Catholic.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Any man who announces he is never having children without proving it ... is full of shit. Same goes for the women. I know it was touched on earlier in this thread but there are medical procedures that can make your decisions all but certainties.

I like this INTJ-like certainty

obviously accidents happen all the time and opinions change. but i assure you some people MEAN it when they say they won't have children.

People mean many things and then decide to change their plans when favourable, it's called keeping the options open and being intelligent. While being decisive is positive too, depends on the evaluation, decision making out of evaluation and views.

How do you want to progress and protect the enviroment if you let the reckless reproduce and mindful die of age. Wise hermits that lie forgotten or the masses of consumers, the model didn't change a bit in this respect.

 

[Base groove]

yeah you know some people practice safe sex and don't haphazardly sleep around. i agree there is a possibility of getting a woman knocked up, but if youre in relationship with another person and there is mutual agreement that you won't have children. i hate to break to you but they probably won't have children.

obviously accidents happen all the time and opinions change. but i assure you some people MEAN it when they say they won't have children.

Well are we speaking in absolutes or probabilities?

There is a difference:

1. "I probably won't have children" - There is a high probability the person making this statement has a reason to believe it is somewhat true.

2. "I won't have children" - is an absolute statement that can only be justified with concrete proof such as: "I am sterile" or "I have had a vasectomy"

I believe the point I was making in this thread is that unless you are speaking in absolute terms, you are speaking in probabilities and are thus "full of shit" if you think you can confidently declare how the future will unfold. This is why I said "without proving it".

i assure you some people MEAN it when they say they won't have children.

I assure you; if they are unable to prove they are physically unable then they are full of shit.

 

[bemused]

now youre just being petty.

btw your little sterile example isn't absolute proof either. ever hear of adoption, step kids, foster kids, etc?

who knows what the future holds, right?

 

[TimeAsylums]

now youre just being petty.

lololol sign of resignation?

that wasn't pedantic, it was taking the words you said and explaining them to you

 

[Turniphead]

How do you want to progress and protect the enviroment if you let the reckless reproduce and mindful die of age. Wise hermits that lie forgotten or the masses of consumers, the model didn't change a bit in this respect.

http://www.vhemt.org/biobreed.htm#intelltest

 

[Base groove]

now youre just being petty.

btw your little sterile example isn't absolute proof either. ever hear of adoption, step kids, foster kids, etc?

who knows what the future holds, right?

Now you're just being a fool. Have some dignity for fuck's sake.

 

[Turniphead]

Yah, you are being petty.

Any man who announces he is never *any action goes here* without proving it ... is full of shit. Same goes for the women.

I fixed it for you.

It's not a real point, and it's not on topic.

 

[TimeAsylums]

not on topic

OP

Reveal yourselves, childfree folks

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[Ex-User (9086)]

http://www.vhemt.org/biobreed.htm#intelltest

I am for adoption, does this count? I think you can educate and develop children quite well that way too. Still the population is a problem that will be solved by the majority movement and not by the single individuals that do not change the statistics.

now youre just being petty.

btw your little sterile example isn't absolute proof either. ever hear of adoption, step kids, foster kids, etc?

who knows what the future holds, right?

So adoption is bad? How? You don't create any new life, this is ridiculous

 

[Base groove]

Yah, you are being petty.

I fixed it for you.

It's not a real point, and it's not on topic.

Oh k since you're such an expert I should take this opportunity to drag your stupid website through the mud as well. Funny how what you proclaim is "on-topic" is the biggest piece of shit introduced so far and that you claim my reasoning is "off-topic" because it's offensive to some. GTFO feeler.

All throughout, the implication is that it is illogical to procreate due to the author's perceptions of how the world is, right now, and how it has been, in the past and a guess at how it will be. Full of rampant spin, I almost can't take it seriously as satire. It's total fucking crap.

^Totally overlooks the certainty of extinction of our species with its suggested course of action.

 

[Turniphead]

?

The topic is intentionality about child bearing, not whether decisions made in the present will be remain the same in the future. We can only make our current intentions/thoughts/feeling known. Obviously thoughts/feeling/intentions change, but that can apply to any topic, it has no extra significance in this one.

 

[TimeAsylums]

Reveal yourselves, childfree folks

The topic is intentionality about child bearing

You're quite the mind-reader