change

[sushi]

how to change one object to another, from one form to anoter form

for example how to change a book to a table

how to change a room to house

how to change a ordinary rock into diamond

how to change a tree to a animal

how to change a box to a computer

i think in the future we will have a theoretical machine that can change and convert one thing to another

 

[sushi]

two objects are similar if there less change and steps is required to transform from one state to another

for example sushi and fish

two objests are different if more change and steps is required to transform it from
one to another

for example a table to a televi

 

[birdsnestfern]

Shapeshifting. I don't know, but some shamans can do this. There are Carlos Castenada books that talk about that and Disney movie The Shaggy Dog is a shape shifter. I don't know the secrets though! The only thing I know are two crystals that enable you to be unseen. White or Golden Topaz is said to make the wearer invisible or not noticed/unseen. Dragon Septarian keeps you from being bothered in a busy office, but you also need to be careful if you drive with it in the car, people may not see you.

 

[sushi]

there seems like a wide variety of objects and products in this world (maybe more than 500-1000), but they can really be narrowed and simplified down to few properties

Objects that have close similarities belong to the same class

In terms of 3 dimension

sand and rock like objects

container and box l objects (houses, refrigerators )

nothingness and vaccum/gas (the emptiness inside the container)

objects with holes

liquid and water

solid objects

food objects material (banana, eggs, vegetables) that can manifest in a variety of shapes)

simple polygon

paste and cermanic objects that can take any form.

paper and fabric cloth (between 2d and 3d)

pictures and drawing, painting (2d)

 

[sushi]

Shapeshifting. I don't know, but some shamans can do this. There are Carlos Castenada books that talk about that and Disney movie The Shaggy Dog is a shape shifter. I don't know the secrets though! The only thing I know are two crystals that enable you to be unseen. White or Golden Topaz is said to make the wearer invisible or not noticed/unseen. Dragon Septarian keeps you from being bothered in a busy office, but you also need to be careful if you drive with it in the car, people may not see you.

it is shapeshfit t but hat is very infp answer

i am talking about like technologically transform, transmute an object to one form to another so as to way to end scarcity and build better products.

 

[birdsnestfern]

Ok, you can skip over that, lol. Oops.

 

[sushi]

dont worry, the premise that everything is made of atoms seems wrong. i think there is more than that. The universe is geometrical in nature and the atomic model doesnt fully describle it. It could be said this topic is about forms of matter and change.

food is digestable material and organic molecules, can we convert non digestable material into digestable material?

 

[sushi]

change depends on

How many possible forms an object have


how to change an object from one thing to another thing

it is related to chemistry but i think thir model is incomplete.

 

[sushi]

matter is already an ambiguous defintion

i think its implies something containable and measurable as per chemistry defintion

there are alot of things in the universe that escape this defintion.

 

[saucer]

Change is just what everything natural does.

Sure we have systems & mechanisms for enforcing & maintaining assuredness & stability like never before, but I think most of us recognize all that as conditional & unquestionably artificial -- models, abstractions, tributes.

I like it, personally. It's the basis for my trying to learning new thing.

 

[scorpiomover]

Change happens all the time. Food becomes body parts and excrement, which in turn becomes food for something else.

Even atoms change, in suns.

But atoms are an easy way to classify which changes are easier, and which require temperatures like 5,000 C to make them happen.

 

[sushi]

Change happens all the time. Food becomes body parts and excrement, which in turn becomes food for something else.

Even atoms change, in suns.

But atoms are an easy way to classify which changes are easier, and which require temperatures like 5,000 C to make them happen.

i think the periodic table doesnt describe everything in the universe.

if you organize a store or space, the fundamental unit is a square feet, not a atom.

atoms only describle solids and liquids

 

[scorpiomover]

Change happens all the time. Food becomes body parts and excrement, which in turn becomes food for something else.

Even atoms change, in suns.

But atoms are an easy way to classify which changes are easier, and which require temperatures like 5,000 C to make them happen.

i think the periodic table doesnt describe everything in the universe.

how to change one object to another, from one form to anoter form

for example how to change a book to a table

how to change a room to house

how to change a ordinary rock into diamond

how to change a tree to a animal

how to change a box to a computer

All these things are described in modern physics in terms of atoms. If you want to spend time trying to come up with a whole new physics that is unlike anything that came before it, then that's your choice.

i think in the future we will have a theoretical machine that can change and convert one thing to another

That sounds like something someone watched on Star Trek.

if you organize a store or space, the fundamental unit is a square feet, not a atom.

Sq. metres, not square feet.

atoms only describle solids and liquids

Oxygen, hydrogen and nitrogen are all gases.

 

[birdsnestfern]

Two steps of perception:

 

[sushi]

atoms only describes solids and walls and planets, it does not account space into it.

for instance i want to organize or build something, the most basic unit is square room or square feet. the universe is made of geometry.

its like organize furniture around a empty room, the empty room is the universe, and the furniture are like objects and planets. Not accounting the empty room is not describing the universe as a whole.

when one shrinks and expand an object, large scale geometry could be the same as small scale geometry.

 

[sushi]

space and room

nothing and air

sand


other than (solid liquid gas)

 

[birdsnestfern]

Particles and Waves. You are more particle when you are young and more wave when you are older. The rise and collapse.

 

[sushi]

Particles and Waves. You are more particle when you are young and more wave when you are older. The rise and collapse.

true but particles are kind of sand like. they are the same category.

 

[Hourglass]

is change the only constant?

 

[ZenRaiden]

Basically the periodic table of elements is what alchemist used to try to find.
Each periodic element is atom that has proton and neutron and electron.
Alchemist called this idea the philosopher stone or transmutation or alchemy stone etc.
In Star Trek this machine was called replicator. The idea was that replicators could take energy in form of quantum particles and stick them together into atoms and use energy to shape and form any object necessary.
I am afraid that kind of machine would require manipulation of energy worth a nuclear plant.

What we humans do on regular basis, what was called in past AL CHEMY and no is called CHEM istry. is basically using molecules and reaction patterns to form specific compounds in liquid or gas form or even solid form.

So the closest thing to magic we have today is chemistry. That is like the real harry potter thing.

The other closest thing to magic we have is dealing with atoms and that is called physics. Physics (nature from ancient root physis) is actually study of natural phenomena not man. Ergo knowing the nature.

Physics branched out into the atomic with the atomic model and then with Madam Currie into subatomic world. Hence forward people studied what is proton, neutron and electron made of.

Electrons are tiny particles with a charge opposite of proton. Neutrons are heavy and have 0 charge.

We know atoms are the building block of reality, but splitting the atom we learned there are smaller even less visible particles with tiny energies and behaviors we cannot explain.

But these quantum things are so tiny and hard to measure, because they are like feathers. They are hard to look at and observe, and hard to catch by observing instruments. And when we try to catch them like feathers they elude us, and change behavior, because they are affected by everything around them. Too tiny or too light and sensitive like a feather. They are invisible and hard to understand.

Photons are visible to us through bioelectric reactions in our eyes.
Other quantum particles are visible only implicitly through observation of matter and its behavior and our ability to theoretically explain matter.

Other ways to see sub atomic is via radiation such as heat, or radiation sickness or just plain radio waves. We also can see magnetic maps of energies.
Electricity is another good way to see sub atomic particles by inference.

Realistically we just dont know wtf atoms and quantum particles are.
We just have causal models for them.
And we can measure them.