Can I put my introduction here?

[Enola.Grey]

Hi, I'm new here...

I guess I should talk about something, but I do not have any stories to tell really.

This was a bad idea...

I like video games... and... I am a Christian... if that matters.

I follow Alex Jones, and I know the truth about America..

and...

I hate the RFID... and I am totally infatuated with my privacy...

I'll stop now...

 

[Cavallier]

Welcome. We accept all kinds.

 

[Da Blob]

Welcome !
There are a handful of Christians here. It is a good place to test your faith if nothing else. Most here are not believers, but then again most are tolerant of different POVs being INTPians, themselves...

I hope you enjoy your time here!

John

 

[Wish]

Welcome Enola! :smiley_emoticons_mr

 

[Enola.Grey]

I think the fact that primitive people were able to predict the Radio Frequenct Identification Device is proof enough of an existence of God.

I am a logician though. I am Christian, but more from a logical sense.

 

[Decaf]

I hate the RFID... and I am totally infatuated with my privacy...

I have a wallet with a sheet of aluminum foil sewn into the faces of it that I've verified prevents reading enclosed RFIDs. There's little security risk in most situations, but I agree, this is quickly going to become a problem.

 

[Enola.Grey]

What do you think of the RFID implant?

I see it causes cancer...

 

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I think you're gay.

 

[Enola.Grey]

I think you're gay.

UH... what?

 

[Decaf]

What do you think of the RFID implant?

I see it causes cancer...

Unless they manufactured an RFID implant from toxic materials there is literally 0% chance of that happening. RFIDs are radiologically inert. They operate based on the same principal that allows a radar gun to determine how fast your car is going. Your car doesn't transmit its speed, the change in the signal emitted from the radar gun and rebounds off your car is analyzed for that information.

Or to put it another way, the health risks of an RFID are the same as for piercings or tattoos.

 

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UH... what?

hahaha get it? Enola Gay?

 

[Enola.Grey]

Check it out...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...arch&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10&sourceid=Mozilla-search

My mind divided by zero again... with the Gay comment. lol

 

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doubleprost! (the first post had a link in it and i got caught by the needs-mod-approval trap!)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enola_Gay
I thought this was what you were referring to?

 

[Starfruit M.E.]

Welcome! My advice to you would be to get involved in discussions and to not take the occasional sarcastic comment personally.
Generally in your intro you might want to talk about how you found out you were an INTP or what you are interested in. Or both.
And if you haven't taken a personality test yet and put it in your signature, you'll find that a lot of people have. But you don't have to of course.
I hope you enjoy the board!

 

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And if you haven't taken a personality test yet and put it in your signature, you'll find that a lot of people have. But you don't have to of course.

I think they're kinda bulky... also the mystery of people's MBTI is wonderful.

 

[Enola.Grey]

My name is Enola Grey, like the band. Only I do not follow the band and I had the name before they came out.

Yeah, I don't like bulky signatures...

 

[jhbowden]

I follow Alex Jones, and I know the truth about America.

Oh dear. And I was hoping Bush would break out his NSPD-51 powers and become president for life! How could our strategically planted neocon Diebold machines fail us?

 

[Enola.Grey]

Oh dear. And I was hoping Bush would break out his NSPD-51 powers and become president for life! How could our strategically planted neocon Diebold machines fail us?

I follow him, but not that much. I follow a lot of select and verifiable facts...

 

[fullerene]

Alex Jones! I was beginning to believe him for... oh, I dunno, maybe a span of about 5 hours? Until I wondered what other conspiracy theories were out there and listened through YouTube- William Cooper exposes SCAREMONGER Jesuit-CIA Alex Jones 1/6 (and the following 5 clips).

Don't get me wrong. It sounds like (from your intro) we would both probably believe that Christianity should be separated as far as possible from the US, and I'm quite sure that (like all governments since the dawn of man), any power that the government gets(/takes), it's not going to give up easily..... but I found Jones' conspiracy a lot tougher to believe after hearing him go on and on on his radio show about the disasterous events that were going on during Y2K. He was very blatantly just making things up and spouting them as news. *shudders*. Then I was just embarrassed about it. I've developed a problem in the past year or so of taking outlandish ideas as true until proven false, which is why I took him seriously in the first place, but I regret it now. I'm quite glad I stumbled onto that cooper video showing jones' radio show from long ago, though, before I got too carried away.

I'd call myself a christian too, but due to the way the word's used, I'm still not actually sure how much that gives us in common. Welcome, though... I hang out in the sciene, faith, & philosophy subforum a lot, so I'm sure we'll bump into each other if you like discussions along those lines.

 

[Enola.Grey]

Alex Jones! I was beginning to believe him for... oh, I dunno, maybe a span of about 5 hours? Until I wondered what other conspiracy theories were out there and listened through YouTube- William Cooper exposes SCAREMONGER Jesuit-CIA Alex Jones 1/6 (and the following 5 clips).

Don't get me wrong. It sounds like (from your intro) we would both probably believe that Christianity should be separated as far as possible from the US, and I'm quite sure that (like all governments since the dawn of man), any power that the government gets(/takes), it's not going to give up easily..... but I found Jones' conspiracy a lot tougher to believe after hearing him go on and on on his radio show about the disasterous events that were going on during Y2K. He was very blatantly just making things up and spouting them as news. *shudders*. Then I was just embarrassed about it. I've developed a problem in the past year or so of taking outlandish ideas as true until proven false, which is why I took him seriously in the first place, but I regret it now. I'm quite glad I stumbled onto that cooper video showing jones' radio show from long ago, though, before I got too carried away.

I'd call myself a christian too, but due to the way the word's used, I'm still not actually sure how much that gives us in common. Welcome, though... I hang out in the sciene, faith, & philosophy subforum a lot, so I'm sure we'll bump into each other if you like discussions along those lines.

I like the Zeitgeist Movie. I do not like the Christian chapter, but I find his Federal Reserve chapter to be right on point with Revelations of the Bible

I do not think that Christianity, in it's present state, should be mixed with Government. To many Christians have fallen off the true path, which gives Christianity a façade that is not well loved and recognized.

 

[fullerene]

You might enjoy http://www.whchurch.org/content/page_274.htm -- the sermons from 4/18 and following 3 weeks or so. I'm somewhat wary of some things that guys says, but his criticisms of the church desperately need to be heard, and those sermons in particular contain the most convincing argument against mixing christianity and politics that I've ever heard.

I haven't seen Zeitgeist. I didn't actually know he wrote it, either. Revelation (although, the way it's written, I do think you're write to call it "Revelations", even though that's not it's "proper" title) is one of my favorite books, though. I honestly don't see how anyone could read it (and Daniel) half-seriously and not take them as a warning for the US (among many other warnings, of course). I find myself stopping juuuuust a hair short of "crazy" on my beliefs around the topic, though. Well... maybe that's not quite fair. I just don't think they apply specifically to any one set of events, but work on a sort of "rolling levels of successively more-widespread fulfillment," and I think the text supports that. I belive that tethering it to lone events in order to say "this is talking about now, and never before!" like most movies/other popular 'radical' views (radical as defined by "not wholly futuristic"... which is a pretty lame sort of 'radical', since it's fairly common, I know) do is a bit misguided, though, as well as all the answers they propose to the question "what should we do in light of this impending end?" It just get's consumed by, again, more scare tactics. Frustrating... for me at least.

 

[Enola.Grey]

You might enjoy http://www.whchurch.org/content/page_274.htm -- the sermons from 4/18 and following 3 weeks or so. I'm somewhat wary of some things that guys says, but his criticisms of the church desperately need to be heard, and those sermons in particular contain the most convincing argument against mixing christianity and politics that I've ever heard.

I haven't seen Zeitgeist. I didn't actually know he wrote it, either. Revelation (although, the way it's written, I do think you're write to call it "Revelations", even though that's not it's "proper" title) is one of my favourite books, though. I honestly don't see how anyone could read it (and Daniel) half-seriously and not take them as a warning for the US (among many other warnings, of course). I find myself stopping juuuuust a hair short of "crazy" on my beliefs around the topic, though. Well... maybe that's not quite fair. I just don't think they apply specifically to any one set of events, but work on a sort of "rolling levels of successively more-widespread fulfillment," and I think the text supports that. I belive that tethering it to lone events in order to say "this is talking about now, and never before!" like most movies/other popular 'radical' views (radical as defined by "not wholly futuristic"... which is a pretty lame sort of 'radical', since it's fairly common, I know) do is a bit misguided, though, as well as all the answers they propose to the question "what should we do in light of this impending end?" It just get's consumed by, again, more scare tactics. Frustrating... for me at least.

True, but consider the RFID chip. There are people that argue that it is not the Mark of the Beast, but in Zeitgeist, they have a guy who talks about what the Rockefeller's are trying to do. Here is an abridge video...

YouTube- Zeitgeist Movie - RFID Chip

Rev 13:16|18 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

These are the videos, unabridged. I hope you like history, because this video rewrites history from the perspective of those in power and the picture is much different then the lies written in text books. Check out these videos...

YouTube- Zeitgeist - The Movie: Federal Reserve (Part 1 of 5)

Rev 6:2|8 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.


YouTube- Zeitgeist - The Movie: Federal Reserve (Part 2 of 5)
YouTube- Zeitgeist - The Movie: Federal Reserve (Part 3 of 5)
YouTube- Zeitgeist - The Movie: Federal Reserve (Part 4 of 5)
YouTube- Zeitgeist - The Movie: Federal Reserve (Part 5 of 5)

I wish I could leave the United States, but I think I will just end up committing suicide when the Mark of the Beast becomes enforced.

 

[asdfasdfasdfsdf]

I like the Zeitgeist Movie. I do not like the Christian chapter, but I find his Federal Reserve chapter to be right on point with Revelations of the Bible

I do not think that Christianity, in it's present state, should be mixed with Government. To many Christians have fallen off the true path, which gives Christianity a façade that is not well loved and recognized.

i cant blame you for liking zeitgeist too much..
when i first saw it.. i was kinda shocked, and sorta believed it.. but my second run through.. and a little research.. showed me what it really is.

in the zeitgeist, you have a few facts (like the jp morgan scare).. but then you have a ton of things stated as fact, that are infact sometimes full out lies.. and other times just ideas that have no evidence whatsoever for them.

i wouldnt have noticed except for the section where they are talking about Jesus being the same as all these other gods.. and i recognized a few small things which i KNEW werent true, and i think i had seen it contradict itself.. so i googled what others had to say about it.
i came across a source that talked about the movie, took it "fact" at a time, and discussed it.
in the christian section, it turns out most of the "sources" that the zeitgeist used said NOTHING like they claim it to say, but instead something else.. merely a lie, that they tag a source onto that seems relevant.
and from there ... i assumed that they probably arent 100% honest about all of the facts they state later.

yes, the federal reserve is more than 100% corrupt.
yes, bush, and the government lied about 9-11.
yes, rfid chips are a bad idea.
yes, war increases profit.

but other than that, most non-history book "facts" stated are probably lies.

I am a Christian too...
hopefully you are not too sensative about other's opinions of Christianity.. as here it isnt very respected. (although many non-Christian members are very respectful about it).

as long as you arent the "im doing x in God's name" or "You are going to hell because.." kind of "Christian" then i think we will get along...

 

[Agent Intellect]

Anyone ever notice that NASA is based in Texas, and JFK was shot in Texas? Coincidence?

 

[bluesquid]

Welcome enola.

I tend to hit the underline button often for some reason.


I have watched everything you have posted, and while there are some flaws, they have truth at their heart. i became awake a year or so ago, and have learned so so much.

Its my firm belief that the "order from chaos" is a INTP idea. That we the architects have created a system that makes sense, yet lacks judgment. A very INTP idea. I hate this system. One created by INTP's, albiet not for them.

Do you know anything about peak oil?

I highly recommend

http://www.chrismartenson.com/page/crash-course-one-year-anniversary

http://www.collapsemovie.com/COLLAPSEMOVIE/

http://wakeupproject.com/VList.asp?Series=1

lot of videos, but very interesting

 

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My dad is an economist who used to work for PGE (Pacific Gas and Electric). He hasn't worked there for awhile, so he's free of any company-bias. He seriously doubts the validity of peak oil. There is more oil, it is just a matter of us getting to it. The flaw in peak oil is that they usually only look at the current reserve or the current fields- ignoring new discoveries and even new technologies for the harvesting of oil.

And even if oil does become more scarce, and more expensive, what will we do? It will become MORE profitable to get oil, so we can use more expensive ways to get oil from the ground (and under the oceans). More expensive oil will give justification for free-market funding of new oil-related technologies and of alternative energy.

 

[bluesquid]

With all due respect to your father, who listens to economists anymore?

amuses me you put the word bias, and the word economist in the same sentence. and his pension would lead me to believe otherwise.

Your points on future production may be valid. What does that do to the economies of the world? ask an economic expert that.

The best argument for peak oil, is that peaks have been reached in almost every single commodity.

watch the movie Collapse. At least watch the 45 min version of the Crash Course.

you might think your thinking is biased.

 

[Claverhouse]

Hi

Interesting.

As for the impressive poesy from Revelations... I was offended when very young reading George Bernard Shaw's description of John the Divine as a deranged jewish drug-addict. By now I probably agree. Still, the poetic imagination of the jews is probably their greatest, possibly only, since all their other triumphs flow from that, gift.



Claverhouse

 

[Enola.Grey]

Yea! Claverhouse

I wish I could remember where I say you.

 

[Claverhouse]

Bring from the craggy haunts of birch and pine. Thou wild wind, bring Keen forest odours from that realm of thine, Upon thy wing! O wind, O mighty, melancholy wind, Blow through me, blow! Thou blow'est forgotten things into my mind, From long ago.

It would be central. I was a mod there during it's formative years, then an admin. Finally I de-adminned myself privately and haven't been there for a few years. For a month I modded their sister forum, but I've forgotten what that was called.




Claverhouse

 

[Mello]

Do you like conspiracy theories?

 

[Enola.Grey]

Re: Bring from the craggy haunts of birch and pine. Thou wild wind, bring Keen forest odours from that realm of thine, Upon thy wing! O wind, O mighty, melancholy wind, Blow through me, blow! Thou blow'est forgotten things into my mind, From long ago

It would be central. I was a mod there during it's formative years, then an admin. Finally I de-adminned myself privately and haven't been there for a few years. For a month I modded their sister forum, but I've forgotten what that was called.




Claverhouse

I love that you put your signature in manually with each post. You have character, and that is is awesome.

 

[Enola.Grey]

Do you like conspiracy theories?

Yes, but only if they align with my logic. If they don't fit the puzzle, and I am very secretive about what exactly I know, then I dismiss them.

 

[Toad]

YouTube- RFID - Technology Video

rfid gooooooood