Brain power stamina

[HDINTP]

I would like to ask this:

If I workout I have some stamina, fine, but when you ovedo it you can get for example muscle fever. How does this work with brain? Can we say that brain is a muscle to? I think a lot that is true I think but today I thought probably too much and I was nauseous but it was in the bus so It could have been because of that? So I asked and I got this answer: "If you overdo it you can get tired, have headache etc.".
But I mean I am used to think however I would like to know your opinions.

Is that relatively safe to think almost nonstop a lot? How do you know you should let your brain rest? Is it ok to go over headache in case? I mean I never had true problem with this, yes sometimes I felt kind of pressure when I did a lot but not getting nauseous, so I just overdid it I guess...?

 

[snafupants]

I know TCM teaches that too much sex leads to depletion of Jing, and since Jing is connected to brain power according to TCM, too much sex seemingly can result in diminishment of brain power.

There's nothing I really overdo so I typically feel energized. Overeating, overexercising and too much sex are soporific and somewhat stupefying.

Personally I only properly rest my brain at night and during meditation. I sleep very deeply and feel totally refreshed when I wake up, usually nine hours later. Actually I feel like shit right after awakening (low blood sugar?) but twenty minutes later I'm fine for the day.

I find that focused thought, ruminative thought actually stimulates me (Ne-Ti) but jouncing thought patterns and the inability to concentrate drains me. I like to feel in control and I'm more keen on ideas than details. An insatiable foci on details is boring and for lesser, more earthy minds.

 

[HDINTP]

An insatiable foci on details is boring and for lesser, more earthy minds.

Agree

 

[snafupants]

Agree

All NTs unite! *Pushes an INFP down a flight of stairs*

 

[Cognisant]

I find that the longer I'm awake the more "intelligent" I become, like a flywheel building up momentum before it's used for mechanical work, so if I'm awake but not doing anything for a day or two I can get to a point where the solutions to problems just occur to me and I'm not really sure how I figured it out, but it works, so obviously I did.

I think something's happening on a subconscious level, as if it takes a longtime for all my brain's subsystems to become operational and every time I go to sleep the whole process gets reset, like algorithmic generation software building a city only to have it lost when the computer's turned off and the RAM is wiped.

 

[nanook]

pushing the INFP downstairs could help, when caffeine and food don't do the trick. cognition is embodied and the brain is immersed in the energy flow of the total body, a depleted mind is often related to either a depleted or a frozen/suppressed/dissociated body. if fighting INFPs doesn't release enough energy, try ESTP.

 

[snafupants]

pushing the INFP downstairs could help, when caffeine and food don't do the trick. cognition is embodied and the brain is immersed in the energy flow of the total body, a depleted mind is often related to either a depleted or a frozen/suppressed/dissociated body. if fighting INFPs doesn't release enough energy, try ESTP.

The ESTP might fight back. I'm on the prowl for an easy kill.

An INFP would convince himself that he deserved it, like a battered woman.

Yeah I'd imagine pushing NFs down stairwells or dangerously lubricating the floor for SJs would produce an invigorating coffee-like effect for most NT types.

 

[HDINTP]

I find that the longer I'm awake the more "intelligent" I become, like a flywheel building up momentum before it's used for mechanical work, so if I'm awake but not doing anything for a day or two I can get to a point where the solutions to problems just occur to me and I'm not really sure how I figured it out, but it works, so obviously I did.

I think something's happening on a subconscious level, as if it takes a longtime for all my brain's subsystems to become operational and every time I go to sleep the whole process gets reset, like algorithmic generation software building a city only to have it lost when the computer's turned off and the RAM is wiped.

Yes there is something with RAM in my case too I think...

 

[HDINTP]

I find that the longer I'm awake the more "intelligent" I become, like a flywheel building up momentum before it's used for mechanical work, so if I'm awake but not doing anything for a day or two I can get to a point where the solutions to problems just occur to me and I'm not really sure how I figured it out, but it works, so obviously I did.

I think something's happening on a subconscious level, as if it takes a longtime for all my brain's subsystems to become operational and every time I go to sleep the whole process gets reset, like algorithmic generation software building a city only to have it lost when the computer's turned off and the RAM is wiped.

But it is sort of... You know sometimes it really is like the more I am trying the less I get and vice versa.

 

[BigApplePi]

Can the brain get tired? That is a great question that has passed through my mind but I never put together coherent thoughts.

There is more than one thing involved. Fatigue can be emotional. That is if what I'm thinking about is a problem to be worked on, there can be a lot of paths to cover. Some of them can cause roadblocks resulting in emotional frustration. That would be directly tiring, no?

If one's brain is exploring so much stuff that the stuff is in a jumble and the intention is to put things together in an ordered fashion, same thing. It's tiring because of inevitable frustration.

But if I've collected all my thoughts and they are ordered in some hierarchical fashion and I remember enough, I can just spill them out and feel quite satisfied in they are put in a finished mode. Then I can go on to something else without fatigue.

I am getting tired right now having made a few posts today. But that could be because I've had too much lunch. Blame it on physiology, not brain.

 

[snafupants]

Blame it on physiology, not brain.

Those are different things?

 

[BigApplePi]

@Cognisant

I find that the longer I'm awake the more "intelligent" I become, ...

Now that is interesting ... quite different from me. I'm at my best in the morning. Things are fresh and clear and there is plenty of room. Then as stuff accumulates, my mind goes into a jumble, fills up and I get tired.

 

[HDINTP]

@Cognisant

Now that is interesting ... quite different from me. I'm at my best in the morning. Things are fresh and clear and there is plenty of room. Then as stuff accumulates, my mind goes into a jumble, fills up and I get tired.

In my case it is usually about 9-12 PM when I am at my best.

 

[Cognisant]

3-4am myself

I suppose it's really to do with the way you think, as I said I can solve problems without knowing how I solved them, an analogy would be doing math without showing your working, except in this case the working isn't even occurring on a conscious level so I think it's happening on a subconscious level and the meta-processing of conscious awareness has been skipped for the sake of efficiency.

Now that is interesting ... quite different from me. I'm at my best in the morning.

You probably think in a different way that benefits from having lots of unused space, maybe I think more like an INTJ with set conceptual structures that benefit from refinement whereas your INTP way of thinking involves you thinking by learning, so your brain makes big bursts of connections and from them finds the best one (which definitely seems exhausting, though you probably pick up on new information and can learn things a lot faster then I can) whereas mine makes a constant directed steam of less connections which get progressively redirected into a tighter focus.

Or something, I dunno

 

[Niclmaki]

Interesting indeed. I seem to think more clearly / quickly the more tired I get. Not to mention talking quicker. And I do it at about the same degree of "intelligence" as when Im awake and not tired, just faster.
I can't think of any possible reason to why this is...

 

[Architect]

I would hypothesize that the ability of the brain to work is related to the speed at which it can store experiences via reordering the neuronal connections. That at least appears to be the answer from neuroscience. Sleep is the way the brain does much of this reordering, hence the need to sleep when learning a new skill, and finding the skill learned upon awakening.

The question is a little more complex than that because we can observe that the greatest creation and destruction of the connectome occurs around three, which is hardly the time of our greatest cognitive abilities. One could argue however that this is the age where we go through the largest changes due to learning. Further, our brains do actually have limited storage capacity, which gets filled up as we age which is why older people have a harder time learning new things. This is due to inability to create new neural nets, but of course we retain the ability to create new connections (otherwise we'd not remember what we ate yesterday!). This highlights the benefit of learning a wide degree of knowledge when young.

I've noticed that my ability to remember fine details has decreased as I've aged, but my ability to reason and think has increased. Ray Kurzweil has a new book coming out in a week or two called "How to create a mind" which will discuss the recent research on these topics.

 

[BigApplePi]

Holy macro! If I weren't so tired right now, I'd respond to that right now.

 

[rattymat]

It was probably a combination of your thoughts and stimulus. I feel sometimes I try too think to much in environments that are too overwhelming in terms of stimulus and, while it doesn't make me feel naueseous, it can make me feel badly physically, it is hard to explain- it is similar to nausea but of the body and head.