Boys and girls

[Coolydudey60]

I want both boy and girl contributors here: please signify at the start of your post what you are.

So I am a guy
I learnt something interesting today... Boys cant multitask well compared to girls for example girls find it easy to talk on the phone while talking to someone else. For boys you just have to forget one of the two people. On the contrary boys tend to be better in maths and sciences, but then again girls make better organizers.
I would like it if people could give their opinion as well as their personal experiences or even give more such differences if they know any, just cause its interesting.

 

[jchazardous]

I would think this has more to due with the fact the majority of the female population is right brained and that of the male is left brained than anything else. If I remember correctly the right brain has more to do with communication and emotions than the left which specializes in logic. I'm unsure as to the organizational element though. This has alot to do with type I would assume but doesn't seem to be very groundbreaking as gender does tend to attract more to certain types than others.

 

[Jesse]

I would like to see that test done where the traditional roles of men and women are reversed.

 

[Wish]

I am a boy :3

 

[jchazardous]

I would like to see that test done where the traditional roles of men and women are reversed.

I don't think it would change signifigantly. Traditional roles aside, the female anatomy is different from that of a man's and contains different hormones which affect thought process and how the brain is used.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I want both boy and girl contributors here: please signify at the start of your post what you are.

So I am a guy
I learnt something interesting today... Boys cant multitask well compared to girls for example girls find it easy to talk on the phone while talking to someone else. For boys you just have to forget one of the two people. On the contrary boys tend to be better in maths and sciences, but then again girls make better organizers.
I would like it if people could give their opinion as well as their personal experiences or even give more such differences if they know any, just cause its interesting.

People with extroverted sensing are better apt to multitask, so ESFPs and ESTPs. If you want to explain it psychologically/scientifically then it has something to do with the somatosensory system.

 

[Cognisant]

Exactly, male brains are primarily visual, whilst females excel in the indirect senses of smell and hearing, reflecting our primordial roles as hunters and gatherers.

Adaptation for visual processing enables the male brain to excel at abstraction (like mathematics, because we can visualise it) whilst the female brain excels at multitasking for similar reasons.

 

[Anthile]

I learnt something interesting today... Boys cant multitask well compared to girls for example girls find it easy to talk on the phone while talking to someone else. For boys you just have to forget one of the two people. On the contrary boys tend to be better in maths and sciences, but then again girls make better organizers.
I would like it if people could give their opinion as well as their personal experiences or even give more such differences if they know any, just cause its interesting.

Where did you learn that? All of this is 100% wrong.

 

[SpaceYeti]

100%, the certain maker.

 

[nexion]

You're relating this entirely to talking... what about one who can listen to music, talk on the phone, and do homework at the same time? That takes skill. I often do homework in class for the next period while, at the same time, listening to the teacher. I think about random, unrelated topics while doing about everything.

Girls tend to be more extroverted than boys, so it makes sense that they like to talk and are extremely good at it. But that is entirely stereotypical. I know guys that talk more than a ton (and one woman who talk more than anyone else I know combined). It is pretty much unisex, depending on the makeup of the brain.

Same for the organization. And this is a little tough for me to say in faith since I rarely every organize and my sister organizes everything (neat little charts, schedules, calendars... I hate it) I don't bother with that because I appreciate immensely flexibility and I generally do stuff as situations occur. If I were to make a schedule and actually follow it, what would happen if something were to make me reconsider the schedule? Schedules only work for people who bind themselves to it. I bind myself to as few obligations as possible.

Truth be told, I have extremely excellent organizational skills. one look at my computer folders proves that. I just rarely ever put them to use.

 

[Dansk]

The attributes mentioned in the first post are statistical generalizations that have no use when dealing with specifics. They just serve to perpetuate stereotypes. Deal with the individual, not the group. Life is much more interesting that way.

 

[Coolydudey60]

True but I was asking a completely different question and nobody really answered, but thats not the point.

 

[Ska]

True but I was asking a completely different question and nobody really answered, but thats not the point.

You might have better luck if you don't preface your question with the worst generalizations ever.

 

[jachian]

boy: right brained according to some tests..........


interesting.......... what does this mean?......

 

[EyeSeeCold]

True but I was asking a completely different question and nobody really answered, but thats not the point.

Lol.

It is because females and males are made of mostly the same elements. Some differences are constant (e.g. female pelvis), while others such as behavior can vary. The ability to multitask is one of those inconsistent traits that cannot be directly correlated to gender. So it would be a more effective analysis to look at what allows one to multitask efficiently and why is it more recurrent in females than in males.

 

[Melllvar]

True but I was asking a completely different question and nobody really answered, but thats not the point.

What was the question? You didn't actually ask a question, you just stated something you'd heard and then asked for opinions. The most common opinion seems to be that these are gross generalizations that may not even be accurate.

Why not accurate? Because people have often credited men as being better at some stuff, women being better at other stuff, when it's often later shown that social/environmental differences are the cause of that. Women and men, in general, experience very different lives and they way you live and the stuff you do affects the way your brain develops and functions. People that go deaf/blind rewire the auditory/visual areas of their brain to assist with the senses they still have. People that play a lot of fast-paced video games improve their visual resolution and use different parts of their brain when performing certain tasks. There was even a guy, Rudiger Gamm, that was a self-taught mental calculator. After doing fMRIs on him they found he was using parts of his brain in the calculations that most people don't.

My point is that while one gender may be better at something, you can't really say that their brains are working that way because of their gender, since the difference in brain function could be caused by adaption to their environment. Women have historically been considered worse at math, but in recent times the gap has diminished (possibly disappeared?).

On the other hand though, there are major physiological/anatomical differences too. It certainly isn't all environmental. But what was your question again?

I'm a guy, by the way.

 

[Minuend]

I'm a boy. Anyone wanna get laid?

Spoiler

Nobody is good at multitasking. When you do two tasks, the brain split the work between itself. Meaning you use only half a brain on each task. The human brain isn't constructed to cope with two tasks at once. Or so Scientific American claims.

 

[Coolydudey60]

What you guys need to realize is that even if these are gross generalizations I knew that from the very beginning.I was asking if anybody as a boy or as girl found what I said to be true or not, and if they knew any more gross generalizations that might be interesting

 

[Jesin]

I don't think it would change signifigantly. Traditional roles aside, the female anatomy is different from that of a man's and contains different hormones which affect thought process and how the brain is used.

Even if they are different, that does not necessarily mean they are different in this particular way.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

What you guys need to realize is that even if these are gross generalizations I knew that from the very beginning.I was asking if anybody as a boy or as girl found what I said to be true or not, and if they knew any more gross generalizations that might be interesting

Well, then yes, I have noticed the tendency. Those same types of girls tend to be flaky, never fully committing to anything and also hyperactive.

 

[Dansk]

What you guys need to realize is that even if these are gross generalizations I knew that from the very beginning.I was asking if anybody as a boy or as girl found what I said to be true or not, and if they knew any more gross generalizations that might be interesting

Sure, here you go.

Athletes are stupid, Americans are ignorant of the outside world, nerds like Dungeons and Dragons, IT workers are obese and socially awkward, pop music is shit, Asians are bad drivers, black men have huge dicks, people that work in the trades are stupid, people with PhDs are smart, blondes are dumb, Muslims are terrorists, people from the rural South are inbred, Mexicans are lazy, cats and dogs fight.

There are millions of these generalizations out there, virtually all of them have some basis in statistical truth, however slight, and yet they're entirely useless and offensive to the people they're applied to.

People are a lot more interesting to talk about than statistical aggregations.

 

[nexion]

Sure, here you go.

Athletes are stupid, Americans are ignorant of the outside world, nerds like Dungeons and Dragons, IT workers are obese and socially awkward, pop music is shit, Asians are bad drivers, black men have huge dicks, people that work in the trades are stupid, people with PhDs are smart, blondes are dumb, Muslims are terrorists, people from the rural South are inbred, Mexicans are lazy, cats and dogs fight.

There are millions of these generalizations out there, virtually all of them have some basis in statistical truth, however slight, and yet they're entirely useless and offensive to the people they're applied to.

People are a lot more interesting to talk about than statistical aggregations.

I see no stereotypes in this post.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Lol

 

[SpaceYeti]

I find it peculiar that most people in this thread immediately jumped on the "Our sex is superficial" bandwagon. Face it, male and female brains are different. Male and female bodies are different. We're different. Granted, we're the same species. Men and women are more similar than, say, men and chimps, but that misses the point. I won't make this post unnecessarily long in quoting sources I find, claiming what the differeces are caused by, how they matter, and why it doesn't make men and women unequal. My point is only that people always assume that when things are "different", they're also "unequal". One quarter is equal to two dimes and a nickel, but they're not the same. I find it peculiar that people want to celebrate diversity, unless something tends to be different particularly for one sort of people. If your interested in specifics, Google is your friend, but don't pretend your gender plays absolutely no role in your personality. That's effectively like saying your genetics plays no role in your personality. Were you aware your gender is dictated by genetics?

I'm also not saying all women are a particular way, or that all men are. I'm all for judging each individual based on their personal merits. I'm simply not going to deny those merits tend to be distributed a certain way based on gender just so I can be politically correct.

 

[Adymus]

I would like to see that test done where the traditional roles of men and women are reversed.

Word x 1000

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I find it peculiar that most people in this thread immediately jumped on the "Our sex is superficial" bandwagon. Face it, male and female brains are different.

I wholly agree, as I hinted to in my initial post. It seems that most females are optimized for nurture roles while most males are optimized for guardian/provider roles. But why is that tendency? Looking at the history of gender roles does not give an explanation beyond "it's tradition", you must objectively analyze the human body to gain a better understanding of what gender really means.

In the most fundamental sense, I would like to think that humans come as a pair. That we were purposely provided complementary beings to take on roles that we naturally overlook due to focusing on our strengths. Why we come as a pair and not all-in-one is beyond me, take it up with your god.

 

[Coolydudey60]

The vocabulary one uses as an intp is very interesting; for example people being "optimized" for roles as mentioned in eyeseecolds post

 

[Jennywocky]

I want both boy and girl contributors here: please signify at the start of your post what you are.

Gurl.

So I am a guy
I learnt something interesting today... Boys cant multitask well compared to girls for example girls find it easy to talk on the phone while talking to someone else. For boys you just have to forget one of the two people. On the contrary boys tend to be better in maths and sciences, but then again girls make better organizers.
I would like it if people could give their opinion as well as their personal experiences or even give more such differences if they know any, just cause its interesting.

Whut?

True but I was asking a completely different question and nobody really answered, but thats not the point.

What was the question? I'm still trying to figure it out... or is this just another discussion of how males and females are different?

Your opening paragraph was a mismash of nature and nurture, as well as conjecture. I'm not sure what you're looking for. And since representatives from both genders will overlap behaviorally, I'm not sure what broad-based personal anecdotes offer to a discussion of gender differences except perhaps more confusion.

 

[Melllvar]

In an effort to be helpful, I used google to look up some more gross generalizations for you. This was the first article that came up, but I think it's more of what you're looking for. You should still be very skeptical of it though, since, as most have pointed out, it's only true in a stereotypical, statistical sense (if it's even true at all; I think some of it has already been debunked).

Also, you have to realize this forum is dedicated to a personality type belonging to people who typically spend vast amounts of time contemplating abstract concepts and trying to understand the world around them, so if you post something on here you run the risk of having everyone jump on any little mistake, misunderstanding, exception, falsehood, etc. they think you've made. It's just how most people here are. No one is going to want to dumb it down for you, and they tend to get annoyed when people make overly simplistic statements about reality (such as "men are better at this but women are better at that").

One other thing: That men are better than women at math and science is really not true anymore. A few fields are still primarily male-dominated (mainly physics, computer science, engineering and chess) but that's mainly due to women having been held back socially for centuries (or millenia). Until very recently I could have included math in that list, but the gap has very much diminished to where now women receive about the same number of advanced math degrees as men do. That's just one example of how you've already been misled by this way of thinking.

 

[Fukyo]

Word x 1000

I would like to see that test done where the traditional roles of men and women are reversed.

Agression, sexual behavior, [this is somewhat amusing], mathematical aptitude.

Courtesy of Cracked.

 

[mke2686]

Sure, here you go.

Athletes are stupid, Americans are ignorant of the outside world, nerds like Dungeons and Dragons, IT workers are obese and socially awkward, pop music is shit, Asians are bad drivers, black men have huge dicks, people that work in the trades are stupid, people with PhDs are smart, blondes are dumb, Muslims are terrorists, people from the rural South are inbred, Mexicans are lazy, cats and dogs fight.

There are millions of these generalizations out there, virtually all of them have some basis in statistical truth, however slight, and yet they're entirely useless and offensive to the people they're applied to.

People are a lot more interesting to talk about than statistical aggregations.

LOL

 

[Amerally]

Artristy
Left brain vs. both hemispheres. Men tend to process better in the left hemisphere of the brain while women tend to process equally well between the two hemispheres. This difference explains why men are generally stronger with left-brain activities and approach problem-solving from a task-oriented perspective while women typically solve problems more creatively and are more aware of feelings while communicating.

Women use right brain looking at painting, men use both hemisphere looking at painting.

We dream in other way. Men dream abuot men (except some compensating dreams), about space.
Math:
women are better at solving task: 12+23+45+...
men are better at solving task : Working, independently X takes 12 hours to finish a certain work. he finishes 2/3 of the work . The rest of the work is finished by Y whose rate is 1/10 th of X. In how much time does Y finsh his work?

Women have more nerve ending. More pleasure.
Humans have the need to categorize and stereotype as otherwise their brains would go into sensory overload.
So what?

 

[Coolydudey60]

@amerally best answer of all thanks

 

[Glordag]

@amerally best answer of all thanks

I think you only liked that answer the best because it is precisely what you were looking for. The question is whether or not that is correct and to what degree. I wouldn't be so fast to jump on statements like "women generally use this part of their brain, while men use this type". I'm not saying it's incorrect, I'm just saying that it might not be that simple or should require some serious study before accepting offhand.

 

[Wizardry]

Have any of you considered the fact that most religions/societies are patriarchal and hated (or still hate) strong minded women (aka they mostly wanted submissive cows to procreate with)? Wonder how many "rebellious" women have been killed or called witches and burned?

 

[Lobstrich]

I am male. I multi-task just fine. In fact, I was reading a book, while watching a movie moments ago.
I can also take a bath while I pee. Which is quite a feat if I do say so myself.


No but really. I don't get what's the big thing about "Men can't multi-task"
I do that just fine.

 

[nexion]

I am male. I multi-task just fine. In fact, I was reading a book, while watching a movie moments ago.
I can also take a bath while I pee. Which is quite a feat if I do say so myself.


No but really. I don't get what's the big thing about "Men can't multi-task"
I do that just fine.

Stereotype perpetuated by confirmation bias.

 

[Lobstrich]

Stereotype perpetuated by confirmation bias.

I realise that. It was more of a rhetorical question. Me wondering how people can be so ignorant and do as you just said yourself.

 

[Intiguous]

I am female and I am one the worst multi-taskers I have ever met. Also, compared to other women I would consider myself poor at nurturing. Then again, that's mostly when it comes to human animals, not cute widdle cuddly wuddly kitty wittys!!!111

But seriously, I've never had that natural urge to mother. I think the only reason I am good with small children is because I grew up around so many of them. It might have been a less developed quality of mine. Overall, I have always felt that I was missing the nurturing parent programming.

 

[Lobstrich]

I am female and I am one the worst multi-taskers I have ever met. Also, compared to other women I would consider myself poor at nurturing. Then again, that's mostly when it comes to human animals, not cute widdle cuddly wuddly kitty wittys!!!111

But seriously, I've never had that natural urge to mother. I think the only reason I am good with small children is because I grew up around so many of them. It might have been a less developed quality of mine. Overall, I have always felt that I was missing the nurturing parent programming.

Same here. I've always been told I'm great with kids. Yet I have absolutely no need for having kids around.

But to be honest I don't get why I've always been told that.
Even though I've been raised by a hippie mother and that I'm a socialist myself. I'm quite conservative when I comes to raising children, rules etc.

 

[Intiguous]

Even though I've been raised by a hippie mother and that I'm a socialist myself. I'm quite conservative when I comes to raising children, rules etc.

Ah. I'm similar. I think I'd be torn between my laid back attitude and paranoia. I have a love/hate relationship with rules.

 

[Lobstrich]

Ah. I'm similar. I think I'd be torn between my laid back attitude and paranoia. I have a love/hate relationship with rules.

Yep, take pot for example. I'm cool with that as long as you do it for the right reasons (In my case, the right reasons being: Because you're curious, because you have an open mind and definately not because everyone else does it)

Where do you draw the line? Some might say. Well I draw it where I feel it is due to be drawn. It is me raising the kid after all, is it not?

 

[dark]

XY Chromosome
Actaully from what I have been reading, unless I have been reading lies, most INTPs should be near 50/50 left/right brain, since left is the logical part and right is the intuitive part, etc. I have been taking random tests I find on google, and they each have been giving me a 50/50 split, with the exception of one test that told me I had about 60% right brain, but it had about 10 times more questions than the rest. So I will assume the brain functions are determined by personality type, which in turn is genetic in nature.
Also the multitasking thing is a thing I would have to assume works off how each persons brain works, and even some may claim to not be able to mutlitask, I would bet my last donut that they can since most are looking at the most common form of MTing. Example, I can not talk and read at the same time, so no MTing there, but I can talk to about 5 people at the same time, while keeping a coherent conversation amongst each, and not miss a line. Not all people can MT the same way. Like my father, apparently he can not think and talk at the same time, which is funny.
Also gender really would not have much to do with it since I believe even though the sterotypical female is an E and male is an I. You notice the E female mostly because she (I know this is very stereotypical) wants the attention so the male population will automatically focus on her, and not notice the I females, which I have noticed at my school there are an equal amount. While on the other hand, most see the male as more I dominated, while also untrue, it is almost the opposite on how the male population is noticed, the male E is just like the female E yet the female having a different frame of brain work sees the I most commonly, (I am not a female so I can not tell how this is, it puzzles me). So in short, female E is noticed more by males and male I is noticed more by females, usually since the E males gather together and do what ever they do. *note this paragraph is probably 100% incorrect, but is my assumption at this current moment*
Also organizational skills have nothing to do with gender, it is all due to genetics, which I believe as stated above, all genetic traits are dispersed evenly throughout the population, at least statistically it should be, but I dislike statistics for various reasons.
It seems we are trying to prove whether the conclusion of gender being 50/50, it is, as long as the male parent doesn't have something wrong with is reproductive organs.

 

[Bird]

Spoiler

Nobody is good at multitasking. When you do two tasks, the brain split the work between itself. Meaning you use only half a brain on each task. The human brain isn't constructed to cope with two tasks at once. Or so Scientific American claims.

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