You said that among advocates of gender equality, a lot of them were extreme feminists. Do you really think that?
Definition:
Adv. 1. a lot - to a very great degree or extent
'To a very great extent' - perhaps this is simply my interpretation, but to me this implies a majority. When as far as I can tell, extremist views on feminism are little more than a vocal minority. It can seem like a lot because they are so vocal, however like I've already pointed out - just because they're the ones you hear about, it doesn't mean that a lot of Muslims are suicide bombers, or that most religious people are similar to the ones from the Westboro Baptist Church.
Okay, that may be a fair interpretation.
I don't, personally, have any intent to claim to know what amount of the whole population of feminists are extreme, etc. So many things would have to be defined, and then still you would need data to have any sort of provable finding (And even then, there's no saying that studies or polls are accurate, etc.). Without those things, I believe, it remains as merely opinion or personal experience.
To make my statement more accurate to my intention, I suppose I should make it "a lot of the people I've talked to" or "some people" or something to that effect. My point was that some of us who don't want to jump on board with feminism as a movement, and/or as a group of people, have reasons and experiences as a basis. We're not pulling it out of our asses.
You, and others I've talked to that share your beliefs, seem to believe that anyone that isn't with you is against you. You have made no visible attempts to try to see where we're getting our opinions, other than your statement about men getting their's from men so that they, apparently, automatically don't count. You try to argue that we're wrong and that we're bad and that we should not have a differing opinion, because somehow us not agreeing with you, or your behavior, entirely, is hurting people on a large scale.
People that have spoken to me about feminism have largely acted and spoken the way that you are acting. It is offensive to me in many ways.
If anything that I have actually personally said is hurting someone or demeaning them somehow, I would like that pointed out and described directly. If it's something that another person has done or said, I would like it not to be assumed about me, and applied to me.
Part of communication is listening and honestly putting yourself in the other person's shoes. I think your competitive behavior and argumentative style are not conducive to honesty or openness.
Part of why I continued this conversation was in an attempt to bridge a gap, and show that I don't like feminists that I have met, but I don't hate women, nor am I *against* them having rights, nor am I holding anti-female views. Not everyone who doesn't agree with feminists is evil or hateful or stupid. You seem to be very offended by any hint of that idea.
