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Black Holes In Motion

Rixus

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I just though of this, and it's bothering me. Two super massive black holes were just discovered orbiting each other. This is something I've wondered before, but I still don't have an explanation. How can they move?

Beyond the event horizon, time dilation is so extreme that time has stopped. By my understanding, that means nothing is in motion by our temporal perspective. So you'd think that the accretion discs would orbit around a fixed point at the centre. But that isn't the case. The whole structure moves uniformly around another structure it is orbiting, or in this case in a mutual orbit. Galaxies with super massive black holes move around larger groups, and smaller stellar black holes move around the centre of the galaxy.

Everything outside the event horizon should be in motion, but at this centre, if it were truly frozen in time (or at least the dilation so extreme as to be frozen to all intents and purposes from our perspective). So how can the whole structure move? How can the core be in motion if it is frozen in time?

(Yes, it is thoughts like this that keep me awake at night).
 

Rixus

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I get it now. I just realised.

The space around the distortion is able to move at normal time. So while anything within the temporal distortion is held within this bubble, the space around it can move. In effect, a sort of natural warp bubble where the space around the structure moves a frozen area of space regardless of dilation.
 

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What I would understand about black holes is that it doesn't matter if they are moving or not.

If things are distorted in a black hole, its wouldn't matter if they are in one place or moving, because as we know outer space is still an actual place, so it wouldn't matter if they were moving or not. They are basically beyond comprehension at this time. I would only expect them to exist within a vacuum, but there they are in space, orbiting around each other.

Does that even make sense? I don't think I really got my point across but not really sure how to say it exactly.
 

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The inevitable fate of binary BH system:

[bimgx=550]http://static3.uk.businessinsider.com/image/56bcc309dd089517418b464b-/merging-black-holes-ligo.gif[/bimgx]​

Image sources:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/binary-black-holes-confirmed-gravitionalwaves-2016-2?r=US&IR=T
http://www.outerplaces.com/science/...f-merging-black-holes-and-gravitational-waves

Here's a related paper, "Observation of Gravitational Waves from a Binary Black Hole Merger":

https://physics.aps.org/featured-article-pdf/10.1103/PhysRevLett.116.061102
 
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