BAD + BAD = GOOD

[LOGICZOMBIE]

i guess if someone is convicted of murder, we should burn their home down, and the homes of all their neighbors, and bomb their children until there are no more murderers left on earth

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[ZenRaiden]

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

epic

 

[birdsnestfern]

Hezbollah made a statement saying its 100 percent Palestinians fault

Israel says it killed Hamas commander in air strike | Reuters Video

The Israeli military said on Sunday (December 3) it had killed the Hamas commander of the Shati battalion with an air strike in Gaza.

www.reuters.com

English version starts at 23.10

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

Hezbollah made a statement saying its 100 percent Palestinians fault

oh, i guess that makes it ok then

wtf

 

[birdsnestfern]

I'm not agreeing with Hezbollah at all, it was news that seemed to go with the equation of Bad plus Bad fallacy.
Two wrongs don't make it right. Anyway, the energy behind Hezbollah is pretty scarey.

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

Two wrongs don't make it right. Anyway, the energy behind Hezbollah is pretty scarey.

5 hours ago — Nasrallah, in the televised broadcast, said that the United States was "entirely responsible" for the war that broke out in Gaza.

Hezbollah chief warns Israel of wider conflict, blames US for Gaza war

Hezbollah chief Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah on Friday (Nov 3) broke weeks of silence since the upsurge of violence between Israel and the Palestinian militant group Hamas. During his address, he warned Israel against attacking Lebanon, stating that "all options" were on the table and that the...

www.wionews.com

 

[birdsnestfern]

Are we at end times?

 

[birdsnestfern]

Twains thoughts on God...another Bad + Bad = Good concept to ponder

Mike Bickle, Christ Prayer Grp & New Apostolic Reformation Leader, Accused of ‘Sexual Immorality

If I say IHOP, you’re probably thinking International House of Pancakes! But there’s another IHOP, the Kansas City-based International House of Prayer, founded and headed up by Mike Bickle, and the main thing on its menu are round-the-clock prayer...

www.dailykos.com

 

[Old Things]

Twains thoughts on God...another Bad + Bad = Good concept to ponder

Mike Bickle, Christ Prayer Grp & New Apostolic Reformation Leader, Accused of ‘Sexual Immorality

If I say IHOP, you’re probably thinking International House of Pancakes! But there’s another IHOP, the Kansas City-based International House of Prayer, founded and headed up by Mike Bickle, and the main thing on its menu are round-the-clock prayer...

www.dailykos.com

I first want to say that the NAR is completely made up. It does not actually exist. This is something other people ascribe to other people being part of the NAR and not something that the people who are accused of such affirm themselves. Feel free to fact-check me on this to see if people accused of being in NAR actually say they are in NAR.

Secondly, there are only accusations against Mike. I don't know if the accusations are true or not. All we have are accusations at this point. We don't even know who the people are who are accusing Mike of this. Now, all should be done in due process. If he is guilty, he should face consequences. But we don't know that the accusations are actually true at this point.

Thirdly, whether the accusations against Mike are true or not, it does not mean that Christianity is not true. It means Mike is a sinner if it is true and nothing more. We are all sinners. No one is completely righteous. So unless you want to say that you have no secret sins or nothing you do could be viewed as bad or sinful even by your own standards, then it stands to reason rightly that sinful people are literally baked into the religion of Christianity. We all are sinful. Not just some of us. And it's not just the "big sins" that need something done about them, but all sins need something done about them. You have to ask yourself, "What happens to the wrongs I have done?" Do they just disappear into the ether? Or must something be done about them? If you believe in God, then it stands to reason that God will hold you accountable for, as Jesus says, "Every careless word." It is out of God's mercy He forgives us. If we wanted justice, then we would all have to pay the price for our own sin. But thanks be to God and Christ that He lived the life we couldn't and died the death we should have died so that we can be reconciled back to God if we accept God's forgiveness. And that's the Gospel.

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

Twains thoughts on God...another Bad + Bad = Good concept to ponder

Mike Bickle, Christ Prayer Grp & New Apostolic Reformation Leader, Accused of ‘Sexual Immorality

If I say IHOP, you’re probably thinking International House of Pancakes! But there’s another IHOP, the Kansas City-based International House of Prayer, founded and headed up by Mike Bickle, and the main thing on its menu are round-the-clock prayer...

www.dailykos.com

then invented hell

 

[birdsnestfern]

If everyone and everything is ONE then its all within each of us, heaven and hell. So, psychonaught skills will help.
In other words, our emotions are changable, and bring us to different states such as heaven and hell, so we learn to move through them and we become gods ourselves. Everything seems to be a Mobius and fold back into itself. Its a continuum world.

 

[Old Things]

If everyone and everything is ONE then its all within each of us, heaven and hell. So, psychonaught skills will help.
In other words, our emotions are changable, and bring us to different states such as heaven and hell, so we learn to move through them and we become gods ourselves. Everything seems to be a Mobius and fold back into itself. Its a continuum world.

There is no "heaven" and "hell" in pantheism. If it is not pantheism, then I do not have any idea what religion you are talking about.

 

[birdsnestfern]

I'm not one religion over another. Religions are just ladders to the same ONENESS where everything exists.
Your body/mind/self have heaven and hell already inside them because you are IN this world where both exist - you are not separate from the world.

Heaven and Hell are right here on earth, and in your mind, not sure how you don't know that.
Heaven and Hell exist in THIS rhelm and you feel them every day.

 

[ZenRaiden]

Movie Soldier 1998
Good B movie. The plot and philosophy simple to the point, but pretty deep ideas in the movie.

War is not violence and killing, pure and simple; war is controlled violence, for a purpose. The purpose of war is to support your government's decisions by force. The purpose is never to kill the enemy just to be killing him but to make him do what you want him to do. Not killing... but controlled and purposeful violence.
R.A. Heinlein Starship Troopers.

 

[ZenRaiden]

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

SOLID

 

[Old Things]

I'm not one religion over another. Religions are just ladders to the same ONENESS where everything exists.

Jesus said he was that Oneness. You can't achieve it or you would have already.

 

[Black Rose]

If God is "One" i.e. (where everything exists) then is God also the burrito I ate at Taco Bell?

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

If God is "One" i.e. (where everything exists) then is God also the burrito I ate at Taco Bell?

what did the zen monk say to the hotdog vendor ?



"make me one with everything"

 

[fractalwalrus]

i guess if someone is convicted of murder, we should burn their home down, and the homes of all their neighbors, and bomb their children until there are no more murderers left on earth

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It's only considered murder when the murderers aren't waving our flag.

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

It's only considered murder when the murderers aren't waving our flag.

i guess you're one of those "situational ethics" advocates

 

[fractalwalrus]

It's only considered murder when the murderers aren't waving our flag.

i guess you're one of those "situational ethics" advocates

I think the word you were looking for was "patriot", and I haven't actually advocated for anything here. In a world of patriots, there is an increased risk of your own home being burned down.

 

[fractalwalrus]

Another clue as to what I would actually advocate for: sometimes to communicate with individuals who do not have the same temperamental makeup as yourself, you have to use reason to illustrate how a desired outcome also benefits their worldview. That is, if you want an ally. Fundamentally, we do tend to be driven by emotions (even if we are not, cognisant of such things). It is relatively effortless to try and convince those who agree with us of things, then challenge is to do so with those who do not. Trying and use pure reason alone with other individuals (with some rare exceptions), rarely sways their positions, and as I mentioned in a prior post, sometimes it is easier to speak their language.

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

and I haven't actually advocated for anything here

i think i detected "murder is in the eye of the beholder"

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

Trying and use pure reason alone with other individuals (with some rare exceptions), rarely sways their positions

that's why we need an INTP ARMY

 

[fractalwalrus]

and I haven't actually advocated for anything here

i think i detected "murder is in the eye of the beholder"

Upon observation of the behaviors of others, one could come the the conclusion that this is how they act, yes.