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A three hour 9min long shitshow of stupid people doing stupid things, I detest all of these characters. Any artistic merit this movie has is drowned out by how obnoxiously long it is and the sound of the director furiously masturbating to his own perceived genius.

One of the earliest scenes is someone getting showered in elephant diarrhea, this sets the tone for the remaining three hours.
 

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So between which 2 films would you place it in a list of films to watch in order of preference?
 

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The trouble with that is that I almost walked out of this movie, at one point I even said aloud in the cinema "Is this ever going to fucking end?" so a worse movie would have to be one I actually walked out of and I don't review movies for a living so I don't go to watch movies I know I'm going to hate.

Strange World looks like a movie I would have walked out of, not out of any particular distaste as with this one, rather out of boredom, whereas Babylon wasn't boring. Watching a fat man get pissed on by an under-age girl who soon after dies from a cocaine overdose wasn't boring, but it certainly wasn't enjoyable either.

Babylon was certainly an experience, not a good experience but it certainly got a reaction out of me so I suppose it has more merit as a work of art than a movie that bores me, but as a product for consumption it's actively worse than a boring movie.
 

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I have recently walked out of a movie that I cannot remember what it was.
It was the first time.
I like watching even bad movies though so this was unusual for me.
I think bad movies are basically result of the creators of the movie choosing some theme they don't get or a theme they have no relation to.
Which makes for bad movies.
 

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The trouble with that is that I almost walked out of this movie, at one point I even said aloud in the cinema "Is this ever going to fucking end?" so a worse movie would have to be one I actually walked out of and I don't review movies for a living so I don't go to watch movies I know I'm going to hate.
It's a pretty clear review, when someone has paid $15.50 AUD (£8.57 GBP) to see a film at the cinema, and they walk out half-way. It's like paying for a pint that costs £8.50, and then it being so bad, that you pour half of it down the sink.

Babylon was certainly an experience, not a good experience but it certainly got a reaction out of me so I suppose it has more merit as a work of art than a movie that bores me, but as a product for consumption it's actively worse than a boring movie.
In that case, I suppose that some arthouse cinema-lovers might like it.
 

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Ok, skipping Babylon, thanks, however, here is a Dreadstream if you just want to listen to some Raegae music for a moment:
 
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hollywood is one big satanic soul trap. holly wood wands were used by druids to cast spells. the casts of movies are casting spells as are the spellings of some words. television tells lies to your vision which are broadly cast by the broadcasts on channels which channel demonic forces. the programs program your mind. the internet and the world wide web are a net and a web to catch and trap you. satan is "the prince of the power of the air(waves)". the hollyweird ghouls reward themselves with golden idols and globes to mock God and his creation

"come out of her (babylon), my people" - God
 

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Ok, but step back and realize, so does the church act as one big magic act.
Religion in general is like that. A priest or high order pope says words over things or souls, has its own rituals, creates fear and hooks you in.
The magic is more real because it shows you everyone can create things, is Godlike with the spark of creation inside naturally.
What isn't a big soul trap on earth, its a matrix in 3D, meant to farm your skills and time, there really isn't anything that someone didn't make up to suck you in. Everything you can see, feel, aside from nature is created by someone. Its just your ideas that turn into realities. That is the power of thought and action is all.

(Marriage, Money, Beauty, Fame, Saved Souls, Rock and Roll, Art, etc). The only thing NOT like that is actual wilderness and nature and you can feel the difference in its vibes alone, just go out in a forest and feel what real feels like, a little sunshine and forest restores you because your soul feels alive there).
I think its the only thing you can really trust is the feeling of interacting in natures wilderness away from cities, away from all of its silly constructs like religion, work, etc, the only real thing on the planet and its getting difficult to find now.

But, for people who are not mainstream, the message to you is to go within, the kingdom of God is within. Thats true, you must go way out away from society, or go underground to be real, and find the magic of real.


Does this movie have anything to do with why Rastafarians always seem to reference Babylon in their songs? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafari

Rastas place great emphasis on the idea that personal experience and intuitive understanding should be used to determine the truth or validity of a particular belief or practice.[39] No Rasta, therefore, has the authority to declare which beliefs and practices are orthodox and which are heterodox.[38] The conviction that Rastafari has no dogma "is so strong that it has itself become something of a dogma", according to the sociologist of religion Peter B. Clarke.[40]

Rastafari is deeply influenced by Judeo-Christian religion,[41] and shares many commonalities with Christianity.[42] The scholar Michael Barnett observed that its theology is "essentially Judeo-Christian", representing "an Afrocentralized blend of Christianity and Judaism".[43] Some followers openly describe themselves as Christians.[44] Rastafari accords the Bible a central place in its belief system, regarding it as a holy book,[45] and adopts a literalist interpretation of its contents.[46] According to the anthropologist Stephen D. Glazier, Rasta approaches to the Bible result in the religion adopting an outlook very similar to that of some forms of Protestantism.[47] Rastas regard the Bible as an authentic account of early black African history and of their place as God's favoured people.[40] They believe the Bible to be key to understanding both the past and the present and for predicting the future,[40] while also regarding it as a source book from which they can form and justify their beliefs and practices.[48] Rastas commonly perceive the final book of the Bible, the Book of Revelation, as the most important part, because they see its contents as having particular significance for the world's present situation.[49]
 

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hollywood is one big satanic soul trap. holly wood wands were used by druids to cast spells. the casts of movies are casting spells as are the spellings of some words. television tells lies to your vision which are broadly cast by the broadcasts on channels which channel demonic forces. the programs program your mind. the internet and the world wide web are a net and a web to catch and trap you. satan is "the prince of the power of the air(waves)". the hollyweird ghouls reward themselves with golden idols and globes to mock God and his creation

"come out of her (babylon), my people" - God
You mean something like this?
 

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And you know that God did NOT create people. He created nature and earth, but was not responsible for humanity.
 

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Vishnu Hindu god of the cosmic dance

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Kali Hindu god of Destruction

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Murugan Hindu god of war

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Neither God nor Evolution created humanity:. Possibly aliens brought specific dna down, mixed with their own. And this is possibly why we feel so good when in nature, true God vibes in nature. But something is missing in us, and we are likely somewhat alien ourselves: https://greggbraden.com/evolution-answer-one-big-question/
 

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Neither God nor Evolution created humanity:. Possibly aliens brought specific dna down

That's an infinite regress.

aliens created aliens created aliens.

where did the first bio-alien come from?
 

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Thinking about Native American Indians or Polynesians possibly? But you do see in art, on rocks, in Kachina doll stories something came down from space.


Something is Missing from the Human Story​


Francis Crick, the Nobel Prize–winning co-discoverer of the DNA double helix, believed that the eloquence of life’s building blocks has to be the result of something more than random mutations and a lucky quirk of nature. Through his pioneering research, he was one of the first humans to witness the complexity and the sheer beauty of the DNA molecule that makes life possible. Late in life, Crick risked his reputation as a scientist by publicly stating, “An honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could only state that in some sense, the origin of life appears at the moment to be almost a miracle.”2 In the scientific world, this statement is the equivalent of heresy, suggesting that something more than chance evolution led to our existence.


The feeling that there’s something more to our story is not just a recent phenomenon. Archaeological discoveries show that, almost universally, from the ancient Mayan Popol Vuh3 and the indigenous traditions of the American desert Southwest to the roots of the world’s major religions, ancient humans felt connected to more than just their immediate surroundings. They sensed that we have our roots in other worlds, some that we can’t even see, and that we are ultimately part of a cosmic family that lives in those worlds. Could there be a simple explanation as to why such a sense has remained with us so strongly, across such diverse traditions, and has lasted for so long? Is it possible that our feeling of having an intentional origin and a greater potential is based in something that’s true? And if so, what does such a past mean for us today?


When we ask Who are we? The short answer is that we’re not what we’ve been told and we’re more than most of us have ever imagined.
 

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“were not, in fact, descended from Neanderthals.”13

I have 9 times the DNA of Neanderthal as the average European.
Only Europeans have Neanderthal DNA.
Neanderthal separated from humans 1 million years ago.
They breed with Europeans 40 thousand years ago.
 

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God created the earth and heavens, and what occurred after that was billions of years of earth changes.

Ie, humans have been on the planet for only 200,000 years while earth has been here 4.5 billion years, and whatever created us, probably had nothing to do with either. It is also possibly a simulation for souls to learn things, between planets. We have imaginations and creative abilities and abilities to heal ourselves, and dreams. What school has taught us is just for the five sense reality. Theres a lot more to it besides religion or science. Stay open is all without being too stuck on what the system tells you is true. We just don't know, so staying flexible might be best option. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Earth
 
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