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Are there any absolute morals (to you)? Rules that should NEVER be broken?
 

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Are there any absolute morals (to you)? Rules that should NEVER be broken?

No, I do not believe in morals, I only do what is practical for me to get what I want, so I guess you could argue that I am an ethical egoist.

Do you pretend often?

Do you like it?

Why do you do it?

You mean like take on a false perspective of life? Honestly, I used to do this much more, but the more and more I realize the truth, the less that I have to. The truth really does set you free.

Sometimes I will use perceptual tricks on myself to bring up my motivation when I am working out or use it in a situation that I am not so comfortable with, but like I said, the truth has allowed me to just rest my mind and use one perspective to allow me to be optimize my performances.

I already explained why I do/did it.
 

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No, I do not believe in morals, I only do what is practical for me to get what I want, so I guess you could argue that I am an ethical egoist.
Followup Q on morality. You say that for you, you do what is expedient. What about others? Should they do the same? In that case, might they not harm you? What about government? Should it have a morality?
 

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You mean like take on a false perspective of life? Honestly, I used to do this much more, but the more and more I realize the truth, the less that I have to. The truth really does set you free.

No, I mean in situations involving other people, or at a job. From what I've read, a lot of people around here are okay with putting up with a lot of shit - social situations they don't like, jobs they hate, etc..
 

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Where do you work and what is your title? Omitting the first is acceptable if you're concerned for privacy, but the second part's response should be modified to fully describe what it is you do professionally if you do opt to omit that initial context.

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My second question is more of a comparative insight into myself where I intend to use you as a base. Do you ever wish real life were more like Scrubs?
 

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Followup Q on morality. You say that for you, you do what is expedient. What about others? Should they do the same? In that case, might they not harm you? What about government? Should it have a morality?

Well, others can do whatever they want. I don't care. I'm not gonna tell people what they have to do. People go by their own morals, so I am in the exact same boat. I'll just do whatever is practical to protect myself. The government's job is to protect its people, so that's what it should do. Government is necessary for a stable country, otherwise it would be more like the jungle out there.

Where do you work and what is your title? Omitting the first is acceptable if you're concerned for privacy, but the second part's response should be modified to fully describe what it is you do professionally if you do opt to omit that initial context.

I work at Royal Tire part time while going to college full time. I am part of an assembly-line type thing where we recap construction vehicle tires.

My second question is more of a comparative insight into myself where I intend to use you as a base. Do you ever wish real life were more like Scrubs?

I haven't seen that show for a long time, but I don't think so. Haha. I actually don't know what I would like life to be like. I just live it, not much for wishing since it only disappoints me. After watching all of the Ocean's movies I really wanted to make a really elaborate plan to obtain something, but I never figured out what I wanted. Lol.
 

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No, I mean in situations involving other people, or at a job. From what I've read, a lot of people around here are okay with putting up with a lot of shit - social situations they don't like, jobs they hate, etc..

I'm still not following. When I'm in social situations do I pretend what? Do I like what? :confused:
 

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Do you like daggers?
 

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Do you like daggers?

Never really had interests in any sort of weapon. I have confidence in my ability to fight, so I actually sort of hate using weapons. I don't even like hunting.
 

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The government's job is to protect its people, so that's what it should do. Government is necessary for a stable country, otherwise it would be more like the jungle out there.
I like this answer. Some people think government should help out people. Others think government should stay out of the way. They believe gov't doing anything is interference and disrupts the natural flow of things. What do you think?
 

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I like this answer. Some people think government should help out people. Others think government should stay out of the way. They believe gov't doing anything is interference and disrupts the natural flow of things. What do you think?

Well, if the government didn't help the people it does today, there would be much more homeless people, so I think some help is necessary if we want to keep the country from possibly being overrun by a clan of homeless people causing a civil war, so helping people sort of protects us from chaos. But, I know that too many people are actually discouraged to work harder because of the free money they get. I really don't see any way around that though. All I know is that my life is fine, so I'm not gonna worry about someone else cheating the government out of a little money. Well only have to worry about that when actual resources are getting scarce and out countries GDP begins to fall substantially and inflation skyrockets. Then I might be inclined to say something, or I might just move to another country.
 

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This is a personal advice question. I'm writing a post which purports to explain something about the MBTI and perhaps other temperament theories. It's called, "Hierarchical Temperament Theory." In the face of any number of professionals out there and others who have a lot more temperament experience than I have (I only think & do theory), I feel that what I have to say must be presumptuous and stupid. Should I continue with the damn thing or abandon it?
 

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This is a personal advice question. I'm writing a post which purports to explain something about the MBTI and perhaps other temperament theories. It's called, "Hierarchical Temperament Theory." In the face of any number of professionals out there and others who have a lot more temperament experience than I have (I only think & do theory), I feel that what I have to say must be presumptuous and stupid. Should I continue with the damn thing or abandon it?

I would just do it and see where it goes. Who cares what others think? If you find out another way of explaining something and can back it up with evidence, your reputation doesn't matter at all.
 

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I would just do it and see where it goes. Who cares what others think? If you find out another way of explaining something and can back it up with evidence, you[r] reputation doesn't matter at all.
I can see where it goes. However it does matter what others think as they are the verifying parties who would use such a theory. A theory that doesn't work broadly is no good. I have evidence. It's everyone's experience. The issue is what to do with the evidence. How to interpret it. Thank you for your answer. I've put it aside for the nonce as I'm not thinking about it right now.

Here is another question to stump you. There is turmoil in the Middle East for some American (U.S.) film not taking Mohammad seriously. Muslims in the Middle East take Mohammad seriously. A good number of people have died over this in protest riots including a U.S. Ambassador. Should the U.S. take steps in censorship as we have freedom of speech in the U.S.?
 

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What is your social security number?

At what age did you lose your virginity?

When will the US unemployment rate reach twenty percent?

Are you a skilled dancer?

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? :D
 

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I can see where it goes. However it does matter what others think as they are the verifying parties who would use such a theory. A theory that doesn't work broadly is no good. I have evidence. It's everyone's experience. The issue is what to do with the evidence. How to interpret it. Thank you for your answer. I've put it aside for the nonce as I'm not thinking about it right now.

Here is another question to stump you. There is turmoil in the Middle East for some American (U.S.) film not taking Mohammad seriously. Muslims in the Middle East take Mohammad seriously. A good number of people have died over this in protest riots including a U.S. Ambassador. Should the U.S. take steps in censorship as we have freedom of speech in the U.S.?

The way I see it, the damage has already been done, so censorship will do little in solving this conflict. I feel confident that the film industry (the major ones at least) will consider these things in the future now that this has happened.

What is your social security number?

At what age did you lose your virginity?

When will the US unemployment rate reach twenty percent?

Are you a skilled dancer?

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? :D

I am actually still a virgin. I am waiting for someone that I really love. I am an atheist, so this has nothing to do with religion either.

I don't see the unemployment rate increasing that much for a long time because I have a feeling globalization is going to take another huge step in the next few decades.

Definitely not a skilled dancer.. Haha. I know I could be though. I used to do swing and was getting good, but then school got tougher, so I stopped going.

As many as you can imagine? Idk... Haha.
 

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Originally Posted by snafupants
What is your social security number?

At what age did you lose your virginity?

When will the US unemployment rate reach twenty percent?

Are you a skilled dancer?

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? :D
What is snafupants's social security number?
Where does one find their virginity if they should lose it?
How long will you remain employed?
Do angels have to be skilled to dance on the head of a pin?
Why would angles dance on the head of a pin?
Can snafu dance on his head for as long as he can?
 

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What is snafupants's social security number?
Where does one find their virginity if they should lose it?
How long will you remain employed?
Do angels have to be skilled to dance on the head of a pin?
Why would angles dance on the head of a pin?
Can snafu dance on his head for as long as he can?

If I knew I wouldn't tell you. Lol
The virginity store.
Probably until I am incapable of moving. I love working.
No, just really small.
They are probably damned to do so.
That's like asking if I can see what I can see? Haha. Or are you talking about him dancing on the head of his pin as long as the angel?
 

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I feel that wars will continue pretty consistently as more and more ideologies take hold of people's belief systems. I think the biggest factor is that many people have not opened their minds to realize that there are many perspectives people can take. People need to realize that everyone is just like them, that everyone acts according to what they believe/what perspective they hold. Because of this, education and communication will make all of the difference if we want to spare as many lives as possible.

Do you really think that wars are the result of ideological differences?......
 

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Would you accept the challenge to read the entire Encyclopedia Britannica just because it is unusual?
 

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The way I see it, the damage has already been done, so censorship will do little in solving this conflict. I feel confident that the film industry (the major ones at least) will consider these things in the future now that this has happened.



I am actually still a virgin. I am waiting for someone that I really love. I am an atheist, so this has nothing to do with religion either.

I don't see the unemployment rate increasing that much for a long time because I have a feeling globalization is going to take another huge step in the next few decades.

Definitely not a skilled dancer.. Haha. I know I could be though. I used to do swing and was getting good, but then school got tougher, so I stopped going.

As many as you can imagine? Idk... Haha.

Dammit! How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?! *Head explodes*
 

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When did I commence my current endeavors and when will I cease? When will I resume and when can I pass them on to you? Will I have any regrets? Will you?
 

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Do you really think that wars are the result of ideological differences?......

Ideology: The ideas and manner of thinking of a group, social class, or individual.

I didn't say anything about differences. Just realizing that there are differences.
 

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What do you think of Bill Gates? Paul Allen? The Apple guy? Be descriptive.

I don't think anything of them. I don't really have thoughts about other people.

Would you accept the challenge to read the entire Encyclopedia Britannica just because it is unusual?

No.

Dammit! How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?! *Head explodes*

0.

When did I commence my current endeavors and when will I cease? When will I resume and when can I pass them on to you? Will I have any regrets? Will you?

They commenced when you thought about doing them and will/did end when you stopped doing them. That's as right as I can be I think. Haha.

You'll resume once you start thinking about them again and you can never pass them on to me because I do not want to do any one else's endeavors. Lol.

Regrets? I don't dwell on the past. I can't speak for you though.
 

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No, I do not believe in morals, I only do what is practical for me to get what I want, so I guess you could argue that I am an ethical egoist.

So then if it gets you what you want, having sex with a 9 year old is ok?
 

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You genuinely have absolutely no opinion about other people whatsoever?

Especially not those of whom I don't personally know. I guess I have respect for my friends, but I don't really tend to judge people.
 

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So then if it gets you what you want, having sex with a 9 year old is ok?

Morals are by definition absolute rules for ways to act in a general situation. Morals are bull shit.

And to answer the question, I would never do that since I don't want to have sex with a 9 year old. I'm not gonna do something I don't wanna do to get something I want obviously. You have to weight the pros and cons.
 

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So then if it gets you what you want, having sex with a 9 year old is ok?

@Solitaire U.
@Milo

That was actually a canny response to Milo's post. Milo predictably dodged via deflection. :phear:

No, I do not believe in morals, I only do what is practical for me to get what I want, so I guess you could argue that I am an ethical egoist.

This was Milo's original text. I would characterize this stance as nihilistic (with pretensions towards consequentalist libertarianism) rather than enlightened. :slashnew:

I hate to bring Kant's categorical imperative into the fray but would this nihilistic ideology make for a jolly world? Suppose, in other words, that someone desired the carnal pleasure of a nine year old boy. That conforms to this notion of "I only do what is practical for me to get what I want," but would pederasty in that case be all right? I'm not sure. Would widespread pederasty be OK by everyone?

Is this philosophy really the best philosophy? I understand it's best for Milo. :D
 

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Morals are by definition absolute rules for ways to act in a general situation. Morals are bull shit.

And to answer the question, I would never do that since I don't want to have sex with a 9 year old. I'm not gonna do something I don't wanna do to get something I want obviously. You have to weight the pros and cons.

@Milo

Should people kill one another? Is that an acceptable maxim?

Milo, this entire theory is intellectually juvenile. Grow up.
 

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@Milo

Should people kill one another? Is that an acceptable maxim?

Milo, this entire theory is intellectually juvenile. Grow up.

Shoulda woulda coulda. I'm not gonna tell people what to do. Do whatever you want, but if you try to kill me, I'm gonna kick some ass.

Why are you arguing with terms like maxim when I already said that morals are bull shit. I don't live in a hypothetical world where everyone wants to take a shit in the same toilet at the same time..
 

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Shoulda woulda coulda. I'm not gonna tell people what to do. Do whatever you want, but if you try to kill me, I'm gonna kick some ass.
Nonsense. You would just feel tired, go to bed, and never wake up. I would not be there. The poison would have been given to you two weeks earlier. I prefer the detectives to sweat a bit if they are to solve the crime.

Nonetheless. I have a question;
I don't live in a hypothetical world where everyone wants to take a shit in the same toilet at the same time..
Okay. I'm trying to wrap my brain around this one. I think I fail. I need more info. And as we know, there is no shitting without eating. So if we step a little bit back in time and look at the eating side of this equation. What happened then, in this hypothetical world?
 

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Shoulda woulda coulda. I'm not gonna tell people what to do. Do whatever you want, but if you try to kill me, I'm gonna kick some ass.

Why are you arguing with terms like maxim when I already said that morals are bull shit. I don't live in a hypothetical world where everyone wants to take a shit in the same toilet at the same time..

Again, intellectually juvenile. It's no use arguing with someone this obstinately dense.

Perhaps this is really the telos of Milo's reasoning ability? :slashnew:
 

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Nonsense. You would just feel tired, go to bed, and never wake up. I would not be there. The poison would have been given to you two weeks earlier. I prefer the detectives to sweat a bit if they are to solve the crime.

Nonetheless. I have a question;

Okay. I'm trying to wrap my brain around this one. I think I fail. I need more info. And as we know, there is no shitting without eating. So if we step a little bit back in time and look at the eating side of this equation. What happened then, in this hypothetical world?

I was referring to snafupant's comment regarding maxims. To answer the question, idk. I don't live there. Lol.
 

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Again, intellectually juvenile. It's no use arguing with someone this obstinately dense.

Perhaps this is really the telos of Milo's reasoning ability? :slashnew:

Sorry, but I no longer wish to speak with you as I have found that you are not here for a friendly discussion. I'm not here to quarrel.
 

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Sorry, but I no longer wish to speak with you as I have found that you are not here for a friendly discussion. I'm not here to quarrel.

@Milo

Yeah you were a lame date anyway. Keep stating your asinine opinions as fact. :D
 

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Morals are by definition absolute rules for ways to act in a general situation. Morals are bull shit.

And to answer the question, I would never do that since I don't want to have sex with a 9 year old. I'm not gonna do something I don't wanna do to get something I want obviously. You have to weight the pros and cons.

Hmmm, ok...

Coke or Pepsi?

McDonald's or Burger King?

Dogs or cats?
 

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I would like you to tell me the difference or Is that right to say that stalking is not stalking until you are literally told from that person he/she does not like it?
 

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Hmmm, ok...

Coke or Pepsi?

McDonald's or Burger King?

Dogs or cats?

Neither. I don't drink soda.

McDonald's since it's cheaper, though I rarely eat at those sorts of places.

I'm more of a cat person.

Hi,

I would like you to tell me the difference or Is that right to say that stalking is not stalking until you are literally told from that person he/she does not like it?

Stalking just means you are following someone or something that wouldn't want you to follow them if they knew you were following them. So, either way it is stalking by definition.
 

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