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Village Idiot
Yep, it's my turn to take a swing at this!


I want to be intelligent like you - where is a good place to start?
at AskTheManBeyond thread!
Can a blind man see his dreams?
If someone lost all their senses except thought, is that a kind of coma?
If they were born with this condition, and developed a concept of self, what would it be?
If they could have a sense of self, could they become schizophrenic and interact with parts of themselves personified as other people while they're in this coma, and live a full life?
am I in a coma rn?
Do you like cats?
Is making an "Ask me anything" thread what the 'cool kids' do nowadays?
Everyone understands but nobody can help can they? CAN THEY?!
Jesus.
1. If someone lost all their senses except thought, is that a kind of coma?
2. If they were born with this condition, and developed a concept of self, what would it be?
3. If they could have a sense of self, could they become schizophrenic and interact with parts of themselves personified as other people while they're in this coma, and live a full life?
4. am I in a coma rn?
1. Yes.
2. Ego.
3. Yes.
It's possible that we are but nodes of the tree of life, expressed as metaphysical avatars.
These nodes could have their own branches that are expressed as avatars in the subconscious.
4. Your subconscious is.
I disagree. Forming a concept of self without any senses, or having had any, ever, would be like trying to draw a picture with 0 spatial awareness or intent. The result is incoherence, nonsense, nothingness. The development of the subconscious is similarly precluded, since it as well follows from sensory experience.
You're ignoring the criteria for the argument.
Life would never exist without a designer using this perception of reality.
No, I merely likened forming a self-perception without senses to drawing a picture without the, well, senses to do so. Neither are possible without external stimuli that are experienced via sensing, which are stored and interpreted in a logical fashion. The drawing can't be done because there are no reference points. Similarly, self-concept cannot precede sense because sensing creates the conditions that allow you to think about the nature of your presence in the world. Without sense you are ignorant to everything imaginable because your brain can't imitate the world (create an "inner" world) or consider it without first experiencing it, so you can't live a full life in the eyes of conscious beings.
Again, you ignore the criteria.
Without sense, there is nothing to ignore.
There is no requirement for imagination to be limited to the world. That would not be very imaginative.
Not ignoring the world. Ignorance of the world. Such an individual lacks the requisite knowledge to form a self-concept, due to the "born without sensing" criteria. There can be no concept of self because there's nothing to perceive and compare, nor was there ever. You need to have knowledge of truths and axioms before you can extrapolate on, work around or within, or reimagine them.
Of course all imagination is limited to the world; it's part of it.
is phi your favorite?
i like pizza
There was no "born without sensing" criteria. In fact, there was a sensing criteria, which was completely ignored in all of your arguments. You are selectively choosing the criteria to make it fit your argument. I've pointed this out multiple times.
If someone lost all their senses except thought, is that a kind of coma?
If they were born with this condition, and developed a concept of self, what would it be?
You don't need to have knowledge of "truths" to have an imagination.
The word "of course" is a deflection. You want me to ignore the following point. Every time I hear it my BS detector goes *PING*.![]()
I'm pretty sure people can imagine things in space, and on other planets, and in other dimensions. Of course, I must be wrong because imagination is limited to the world.
There is innate knowledge, encoded into DNA, which is part of the physical makeup of the brain. E.g. I think, therefore I am.
Did you have a question?
1. If someone lost all their senses except thought.
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Thought is not a sense. Thought requires sense. Thought is triggered by sensory input, the means by which the brain receives external stimuli (i.e. learns about what's going on in its surroundings), without which there is no basis for thought. Fundamentally, the individual being considered deviates from the average person in that he has this natal sensing deficiency. While the mechanisms exist for thought processes (as was the case in my responses), they will never form anything coherent because the brain is unable to interact with its surroundings.
At this point you're just grasping for straws because your original answer and subsequent arguments propose that we can think without anything to think about, and disregard the meanings of my posts.
Am I a genius? Am I a Joe shmo who don't know what the fuck it mean?
Have you had a bad trip before? what was it like?
Do you make the burgers and I make the fries?
Do you prefer nutella or its cheaper imitations that taste the same?
Are you trying to point out you're empathic?
What is reality?
Does reality have a beginning? If so, how did reality start? and will it end?
What happens when we die?
In the sense that we can determine the outcome of physical forces in reality, can biological forces be predetermined with enough understanding and information?
What is consciousness?
Are we in one of an infinite number of universes? Is anything non-abstract infinite?
If you answer these questions will I be satisfied? If you answered these questions satisfactorily would I be satisfied?
I will read no such thing when I am told to do so!
It's good to have someone keep one's perspectives in check. The man in the url's listed, pistorius, had access to sense; at least hearing, after he began to be conscious once more [<--implied].
Leaving an environment where one is met with checks and balances is pretty dumb. So is not trying to change the environment to meet your desires.
How many times have you seen Rounders?
-In the game of life women are the rake.