Are INTPs Easily Offended?

[digitalbum]

Sorry, new here. I'm an ENTP, and though I hardly ever "try" to hurt peoples' feelings, I find it happens anyway (very frequently with INFJs).

 

[Grayman]

Sorry, new here. I'm an ENTP, and though I hardly ever "try" to hurt peoples' feelings, I find it happens anyway (very frequently with INFJs).

If you hurt an INTP feelings they are not going to admit it. We like to believe we are robots with the power of pure logic. There is nothing that can penetrate our logical metal shell. Does that hurt their feelings???? I hope it does so they remember they are not robots.


INFJ's are not necessarily hurt easily they are just hyper aware of how something may hurt "feelings in general. It is like OCD for misspelling. There may not be an emotional reason for correcting your behavior beyond feeling it incorrect or socially inaccurate.

...socially innacurate??? Is that a real phrase? oh well... enjoy the mispell

 

[Pyropyro]

Insecure or overly narcissistic people get offended quite easily. It's not exclusive to type. INTP's can set a tough Ti exterior to rebuff offensive material/people but yeah as Grayman said, we still have a squishy core.

INFJ's seem to take provocations/criticisms in stride but if you managed to tick one off. Well, just run for cover.

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

I'm only offended if you insult my intelligence.
Otherwise, i am pretty calm and open minded.

 

[The Gopher]

I'm only offended if you insult my intelligence.
Otherwise, i am pretty calm and open minded.

Well it's good that it's not a notable topic.

I kid, I kid...

 

[Grayman]

I'm only offended if you insult my intelligence.
Otherwise, i am pretty calm and open minded.

Best to not be so insecure. You seem to be intelligent enough.

 

[digitalbum]

Insecure or overly narcissistic people get offended quite easily. It's not exclusive to type.

True dat. However, I do think certain types are more prone to being more insecure.

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

But WHY?
(just kidding)

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

WHAT, did you insult my grand mother?

 

[Grayman]

True dat. However, I do think certain types are more prone to being more insecure.

I prefer to think that also. I specifically like to think bad things of INTJ because they seem more intelligent than I.

 

[Pyropyro]

True dat. However, I do think certain types are more prone to being more insecure.

Hmmm... probably those with Fx as part of their Tertiary or Inferior functions are more vulnerable since insecurity is more in the realm of feelings rather than logic.

 

[digitalbum]

Hmmm... probably those with Fx as part of their Tertiary or Inferior functions are more vulnerable since insecurity is more in the realm of feelings rather than logic.

 

[Grayman]

Hmmm... probably those with Fx as part of their Tertiary or Inferior functions are more vulnerable since insecurity is more in the realm of feelings rather than logic.

You would think that being Fx dom would allow you to be more aware and in control of your feelings instead of less.

 

[digitalbum]

You would think that being Fx dom would allow you to be more aware and in control of your feelings instead of less.

While I'm sure there's plenty of Fx dom emotionally healthy peeps, I think the point is they just have MORE feelings to contend with. I definitely feel, but I'm more cerebral. A little colder. Hell, even if I'm depressed, I can still laugh at myself. I don't write poetry about swamps.

 

[digitalbum]

WHAT, did you insult my grand mother?

Yeah, but she started it.

 

[Pyropyro]

You would think that being Fx dom would allow you to be more aware and in control of your feelings instead of less.

I think it would be more about using it often rather than actual mastery. If there's a major emotional stress like the death of a pet, then Fx doms might go about it a scandalous manner yet recover quicker since they already know how to navigate it. Fx inf may be a bit subdued but have to treat that emotional scar for a very long time.

 

[Grayman]

While I'm sure there's plenty of Fx dom emotionally healthy peeps, I think the point is they just have MORE feelings to contend with. I definitely feel, but I'm more cerebral. A little colder. Hell, even if I'm depressed, I can still laugh at myself. I don't write poetry about swamps.

A well stated answer. ...I am not that familiar with many INTP in real life so I have nothing to relate to in order to validate this.

Is it possible that it doesn't really make a difference .

Having more feeling and more ability to handle the feelings is essentially capable of the same results compared to having less feelings and less ablity to deal with them.

Essentially 5 = 8 - 3, vs 5 = 6 - 1

 

[digitalbum]

I think it would be more about using it often rather than actual mastery. If there's a major emotional stress like the death of a pet, then Fx doms might go about it a scandalous manner yet recover quicker since they already know how to navigate it. Fx inf may be a bit subdued but have to treat that emotional scar for a very long time.

Interesting point. I've always thought women in general are better at embracing their emotions, even when they go crazy. But maybe that's what makes them the fairer gender, their ability to fully emote, good or bad, then let go.

Having more feeling and more ability to handle the feelings is essentially capable of the same results compared to having less feelings and less ablity to deal with them.

Or do people with "less feelings" really have less feelings, but they're just better at pushing it way down? Which would probably cause the long term emotional scars mentioned by @pyropyro

I mean, I for one have been surrounded by shit talking assholes for most of my life so I've learned to handle just about anything. It's virtually impossible (virtually) to get under my skin.

 

[Architect]

I just happened to notice in this video

Dario Nardi

He mentioned INTP's being embarrassed. Presuming that being offended is a variation, he said that INTP's were hard to embarrass, but when you did, it took over their entire brain. This was somewhere between 20 minutes - 27 minutes I believe.

 

[bemused]

Nope. But I do get embarrassed or irritated (depending on the person) when I inadvertantly offend.

Hate to keep whining about them but they are most always sensors...I really struggle communicating with them. Always have. However, the sensors in my family know me enough not take offense and they never take my emotive ramblings seriously.

Speaking with fellow intuitives, even strangers- it's like talking to the initiated.

 

[NormannTheDoorman]

wen sum one calls me stoopid i cri everytime...

 

[digitalbum]

wen sum one calls me stoopid i cri everytime...

That's stoopid.

 

[Ex-User (8886)]

call me cold, evil, bad, boring, annoying, ugly, unsociable, unpleasant and I feel nothing

call me stiupid, and I will kill you (or only walk away and never talk with you more)

 

[TBerg]

I am vulnerable in a number of ways that prevented from expressing my feelings and enjoying life in general. I feel like a fucked up kid protecting myself using the dark arts of nihilism. It makes me direct my psychic energy in destructive ways to lower everyone to my level.

 

[digitalbum]

I am vulnerable in a number of ways that prevented from expressing my feelings and enjoying life in general. I feel like a fucked up kid protecting myself using the dark arts of nihilism. It makes me direct my psychic energy in destructive ways to lower everyone to my level.

You sound fun at parties. : D

So basically, I'm getting that the INTP's achilles heel is having their intelligence questioned? Ok, I could see that.

 

[BigApplePi]

Yikes. I looked over the eight CF's and seven didn't seem offended areas. I wound up with Fi. Is that where I take offense? Hit me in the Fi and I'm wounded. One winds up with a wound. But for an INTP, Fi is in the unconscious. So how would an INTP protect themself?

If you tell me "themself" is not a word I'm going to be offended. Now why is that?

 

[Pizzabeak]

I think infps might be due to some tendency to feel and place some emphasis on how other certain people would react to some stimulus, such as one where someone's feelings could get hurt. I think intps could be hard to deliberately embarrass due to some ability to see through things, or if they are they could be good at not showing it. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people would like to say they're difficult to embarrass or they like not showing it sometimes, but I guess some people aren't good at hiding it or have a tendency for proneness of embarrassment or react to things certain ways in a frequency based manner.

Do people ask if you're stoned when you're not, even before you may have actually started smoking weed? Could be a Ti indicator... There was someone who I'm pretty sure isn't dominant Ti who recently displayed this trait, I didn't ask if they were stoned though because they clearly weren't.. Apparently this person indulges in marihuana on a not so frequent basis as well.

 

[Grayman]

Yikes. I looked over the eight CF's and seven didn't seem offended areas. I wound up with Fi. Is that where I take offense? Hit me in the Fi and I'm wounded. One winds up with a wound. But for an INTP, Fi is in the unconscious. So how would an INTP protect themself?

If you tell me "themself" is not a word I'm going to be offended. Now why is that?

I thought your unconscious could not feel pain. Doctors are going to have to rethink putting people under during surgery.

 

[digitalbum]

call me stiupid, and I will kill you (or only walk away and never talk with you more)

wen sum one calls me stoopid i cri everytime...

I'm only offended if you insult my intelligence.

I'm seeing a pattern. And the misspelling of stuppidd.

I would venture to say ENTPs are the most difficult to offend. Maybe because we are so inclined towards arrogance that any insults, including being called stupid, are brushed off, as we know we are the shit (not that we don't have many, MANY faults).

And it doesn't hurt that we're well known for our lightening quick and piercing retorts. And I'm talking face to face. If you really want to incite the full wrath of an ENTP, insult them in a text, forum, email. They will gather all the powers of darkness and might just obliterate your very soul. But you would have to have a lot of dedication to get that to happen, as we have VERY long fuses.

But all in all, we're a hell of a lot of fun to be around!

 

[Grayman]

I'm seeing a pattern. And the misspelling of stuppidd.

I would venture to say ENTPs are the most difficult to offend. Maybe because we are so inclined towards arrogance that any insults, including being called stupid, are brushed off, as we know we are the shit (not that we don't have many, MANY faults).

And it doesn't hurt that we're well known for our lightening quick and piercing retorts. And I'm talking face to face. If you really want to incite the full wrath of an ENTP, insult them in a text, forum, email. They will gather all the powers of darkness and might just obliterate your very soul. But you would have to have a lot of dedication to get that to happen, as we have VERY long fuses.

But all in all, we're a hell of a lot of fun to be around!

I was going to correct your misconceptions but then there were so many I felt overwhelmed and just wrote this long sentence instead.

 

[bemused]

i have an erudite friend who is a lot smarter than me, a lot more successful, more confident- but he is super serious all the time and thinks he has all the answers. he doesn't rattle easily.

however, i am probably the only person that can rattle him. i have this inborn ability to deconstruct and tear down arguments, so when he is trying to exhort his intellectual superiority over everyone, i am playfully slicing and dicing his every argument. he got so angry once he almost hit me. ha

i love being in the presence of arrogance. there is something rewarding in deflating egos.

 

[TimeAsylums]

i have an erudite friend who is a lot smarter than me, a lot more successful, more confident- but he is super serious all the time and thinks he has all the answers. he doesn't rattle easily.

i am probably the only person that can rattle him. i have this inborn ability to deconstruct and tear down arguments, so when he is trying to exhort his intellectual superiority over everyone, i am playfully slicing and dicing his every argument. he got so angry once he almost hit me. ha

1. A lot more successful + arrogance
2. Not a lot more successful + sliceyDicey

Option #1 plx

 

[bemused]

their falls are often more deadly tho.

but yeah i agree.

 

[digitalbum]

i love being in the presence of arrogance. there is something rewarding in deflating egos.

Agreed. I say I'm arrogant, but I don't really flaunt it, UNLIKE my doctor father and surgeon brother. Try being raised in that environment.

Most doctors (my family members included) are seen by the general public as great people, and shit, they do a LOT of good, my brother and father aren't exceptions. But behind closed doors, the intellectual arrogance is staggering. I'm sure you can imagine, but when you are in an occupation where you are basically king and NO one questions you all day every day, it isn't exactly humbling.

So in short, real, acute narcism is something I'm finely attuned to and can dissect with scalpel-like precision. But only rarely, when it is deserved.

 

[Steven Gerrard]

You sound fun at parties. : D

So basically, I'm getting that the INTP's achilles heel is having their intelligence questioned? Ok, I could see that.

I love drinking with people like this. I usually find them sitting on the couch at the few parties I go to and play the swaggering teacher and try and impress them and draw them out all while really digging them and connecting.

 

[Pyropyro]

Agreed. I say I'm arrogant, but I don't really flaunt it, UNLIKE my doctor father and surgeon brother. Try being raised in that environment.

Indeed, it's hard to be a carefree child if there's an invisible "#2" stamped in your forehead. It's really a bad idea to compare siblings especially in their presence.

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

I should clarify my previous position.
What i meant wasn't the childish "calling someone stupid" action that gets me offended,
i get offended when someone unsuccessfully tries to deceive me.

 

[Anktark]

I would say no. You would have to strike very precisely where it hurts to get a reaction out of an INTP. The attack ought to be custom made and well executed- throwing some words from the top shelf together or going for superficial features just won't do the trick.
Also, I don't think questioning/insulting INTP's intelligence is gonna work well. It's quite likely the INTP already has years worth of evidence/queries collected already.

If you do manage to offend INTP though, it's quite a spectacle.

 

[NormannTheDoorman]

I'm seeing a pattern. And the misspelling of stuppidd.

I would venture to say ENTPs are the most difficult to offend. Maybe because we are so inclined towards arrogance that any insults, including being called stupid, are brushed off, as we know we are the shit (not that we don't have many, MANY faults).

And it doesn't hurt that we're well known for our lightening quick and piercing retorts. And I'm talking face to face. If you really want to incite the full wrath of an ENTP, insult them in a text, forum, email. They will gather all the powers of darkness and might just obliterate your very soul. But you would have to have a lot of dedication to get that to happen, as we have VERY long fuses.

But all in all, we're a hell of a lot of fun to be around!

probably because we could be stuped..

 

[BigApplePi]

I thought your unconscious could not feel pain. Doctors are going to have to rethink putting people under during surgery.

As long as it remains so. The thing is it bobs up when situations are urgent. One doesn't know what hits them unless they've peeked down there before and know what to expect.

For example I've I'm vain about something (like the INTP brainpower already mentioned) and don't know exactly where I'm at, I'm vulnerable to a brainpower insult. But if I know I don't do this or that well then someone telling me that doesn't hurt. It becomes a "Hey yeah. How can you show me better?"

 

[Benji]

No actually we aren't. And insulting an INTP's intelligence isn't really gonna offend us because we kinda already know how awesome we are but if you really want to offend an INTP you would have to know the person's individual insecurities and attack them on their soft spot.

 

[kris]

We like to believe we are robots with the power of pure logic. There is nothing that can penetrate our logical metal shell. Does that hurt their feelings???? I hope it does so they remember they are not robots.

Of course I know I'm not a robot. I built a robot to feel all my feelings for me so I'd never have to hurt that way. I checked with the robot on how he feels about your statements as my proxy. After gauging his response, I seem to be unaffected. His personal feelings, on the other hand, were a little hurt at your robophobic characterization of robots as unfeeling beings. He forgives you though; humans can't be expected to grasp feelings as well as robots, after all. We're very callous creatures.

 

[digitalbum]

Of course I know I'm not a robot. I built a robot to feel all my feelings for me so I'd never have to hurt that way. I checked with the robot on how he feels about your statements as my proxy. After gauging his response, I seem to be unaffected. His personal feeling, on the other hand, were a little hurt at your robophobic characterization of robots as unfeeling beings. He forgives you though; humans can't be expected to grasp feelings as well as robots, after all. We're very callous creatures.

lol

 

[Aerl]

INFJ's are not necessarily hurt easily they are just hyper aware of how something may hurt "feelings in general. It is like OCD for misspelling. There may not be an emotional reason for correcting your behavior beyond feeling it incorrect or socially inaccurate.

...socially innacurate??? Is that a real phrase? oh well... enjoy the mispell

Now I am not sure if I am an INTP or an INFJ who's very judgmental about own feelings and simulating INTP in turn...

Further analysis of thinking and feeling needed.
(most of the time I feel like/that thinking is needed... what does that even mean.)

 

[greenspace]

As an INTP, things dont really get me upset but they really should because I let people get away with murder. I have a benevolent and generous side which I think is a slight disadvantage to me.

 

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[Trebuchet]

INTPs are quite hard to offend, except when we aren't. Hit us in a vulnerable area, and we will never forgive you. For everything else, mere annoyance will suffice.

 

[Grayman]

Hit us in a vulnerable area, and we will never forgive you.

Are we speaking emotional forgiveness or just reasonably protecting ourselves since we have no evidence to support the idea that they will not try to hurt us again?

 

[Hawkeye]

When I was a kid I was easily offended; however, these days it's almost impossible to offend me.

Thinking about it, I can't pinpoint the moment where I changed.

 

[Grayman]

When I was a kid I was easily offended; however, these days it's almost impossible to offend me.

Thinking about it, I can't pinpoint the moment where I changed.

Self acceptance