An NTP from «E» to «I» in two years?

[Selten]

Two years ago, I bumbed into testing and it produced »E« NTP, three times on the questionaires (I redid them on various sites).

Few days ago, and well aware that I have retreated from the wider social circle in the last year, the questionaires now put me in the «I» NTP.

Great. Does that sound logical? Do I tick differently than two years ago, and what to make out the best for being in the »I«-Team?

 

[Cognisant]

If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, quacks like a duck and shats like a duck.
It's a duck.

Or not.

MBTI is a system of classification, if you act like an INTP then you fit the classification and though we may be able to make generalizations about INTPs in general on an individual basis whether you're an INTP, ENTP or whatever it doesn't really mean anything.

If INTPs generally like pickles and you don't like pickles does that make you less of an INTP? Some would say so, those people are idiots.

 

[Coolydudey]

Welcome to the forum

How old are you? In growing up, many people go through a phase that is much more extroverted or introverted than their normal self. In fact, somebody can appear to be the opposite to what they are their whole childhood and then slowly show as they grow up. That was the case with me.

Typological theory supports that you just can't change your type, and although from a cognitive function perspective it seems like a small change, introverts and extroverts have brains that function fundamentally differently. This is supported by much research.

It's a case of figuring out what you've always been...

 

[DelusiveNinja]

Welcome to the coop.

See what I did there? *crickets and the sound of a t-Rex breathing*

You must have gotten into some flaps, flapping off at the beak.

Ignore that. Cognitively, ENTPs and INTPs have the same functions and different orders so I wouldn't say you tick differently (assuming you changed) but you may fly in different directions, have different wing sizes, and feather styles.

 

[Cognisant]

Yessssss come over to the duck side.

 

[The Gopher]

Luke Luck likes lakes. Luke's duck likes lakes. Luke Luck licks lakes. Luck's duck licks lakes. Duck takes licks in lakes Luke Luck likes. Luke Luck takes licks in lakes duck likes..... I AM YOUR FATHER.

 

[Cognisant]

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

Great. Does that sound logical? Do I tick differently than two years ago, and what to make out the best for being in the »I«-Team?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw5UWqpcsDs

 

[doncarlzone]

Welcome to the forum

How old are you? In growing up, many people go through a phase that is much more extroverted or introverted than their normal self. In fact, somebody can appear to be the opposite to what they are their whole childhood and then slowly show as they grow up. That was the case with me.

Typological theory supports that you just can't change your type, and although from a cognitive function perspective it seems like a small change, introverts and extroverts have brains that function fundamentally differently. This is supported by much research.

It's a case of figuring out what you've always been...

I agree. The problem with this is that typology doesn't really leave any room for ambiverts. However, The research on introversion/extroversion suggests that most of us are indeed ambiverts.

Some people will inevitably fit the predefined type descriptions more than others, just as some introverts will be more introverted than other introverts.

The same goes for the cognitive functions, if they are real, some E/INTPs could perhaps switch between Ti and Ne more than others.

 

[ZenRaiden]

Can not be extrovert or introvert all the freaking time anyhow. I have problem with introversion and extroversion too.

 

[Selten]

turned 31 recently

 

[just george]

Did you notice your E or I score in the earlier tests? If you were borderline, all it takes is one or two questions to be answered differently based on context and it pushes you over the E/I line. No biggie

 

[Selten]

Not that high «Æ».

 

[Octavio]

I think you should forget the whole MBTI and focus on the fact that your introversion/extraversion is what is the issue here. Most people fall somewhere in the middle of the bell curve, and like someone mentioned already, have ambiverted tendencies. I feel that the MBTI types are usually just the most strongly expressed, extreme ends of personalities.

 

[Grayman]

Great. Does that sound logical? Do I tick differently than two years ago, and what to make out the best for being in the »I«-Team?

The tests are based on self perception. If someone did the test for you, would the answers be different?

Also it is possible to go from I to E and back because they are functionally the same except that one is more prefered. Preferences can change.

Have you taken any medication that may have affected you in this process. ADHD medication, picked up caffiene, have you been stressed recently, or have you had any major change in your life recently like getting married or having kids or getting out on your own?

 

[Selten]

OP here.

I think you should forget the whole MBTI and focus on the fact that your introversion/extraversion is what is the issue here. Most people fall somewhere in the middle of the bell curve, and like someone mentioned already, have ambiverted tendencies. I feel that the MBTI types are usually just the most strongly expressed, extreme ends of personalities.

+1

From the most widely cited empirical study, p. 34

» ... it's not true that MBTI types are very different, MBTI only counts the answers of four question categories and adds each one of them in their category, like one extroversion answer plus another one are two. INTPs differ from ENTPs only in how much introverts worry about strangers, but the EI distinction doesn't make NTPs completely different persons. yadayadayada. « (It's a translation into everyday words, of course, for those who need them. Original quote follows.)

» ... there is no [statistical] evidence that MBTI types represent unique configurations, they merely summarize four additive main effects. [INTPs] differ from [ENTPs] only in the ways that introverts differ from extraverts, EI [axis] does not interact with the other indices to form qualitatively new combinations. ... the anxious introvert may worry about meeting strangers, the anxious extravert may worry about being left alone. These ... are not useful in charactering the individual. « (McCrae, Costa Jr. 1989: 34)

References:
McCrae, R R, and P T Costa Jr. 1989. Reinterpreting the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator from the perspective of the five-factor model of personality. Journal of personality 57 (1): 17–40.

TLDR: the existence of ambiverts = falsification of a theory, yet again.

 

[WALKYRIA]

INTPs and ENTPs are pretty similar all in all. They both extravert the crazy Ne(they come of as fun people!).
What you actually shoud do- like proposed by another fellow NTP on another forum- is to place yourself somewhere on the continuity line between Extroverts and introverts.

Me for example, I'm here somewhere.(*)..I would say I'm moderately introverted, just what is necessary to survive and to have a social life.( because no sanity without social life !)
But again, I don't know exactly what we understand by the words" extraverts/introverts", these words don't seem to have a clear definition anyways...

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