an Absolute Sense

[Ex-User (8886)]

Can you come up sense of doing something or be someone, which would immune to question "why"?

when someone ask you why you're learning you say to have good grades, why to have good grades? - to finish college, why? - to achive something, why? - to not be average person, why? - because I want to be exceptional, why - because I don't accept myself - why? - and there we find the loop, this is meaningless.

Can you find something, what will be absolute sense?

 

[QuickTwist]

I hear if you can answer why 10 times in a row you are a genius.

 

[Teffnology]

Understanding our version of the why helps us grasp the world and give us peace of mind.

Answering why does lead to more questions that will eventually boil down to core beliefs of our very being. Core beliefs are subjective in nature. 6 billion people+ are naturally akin to disagree on such things as our role to each other and role in the world.

 

[Ex-User (8886)]

I hear if you can answer why 10 times in a row you are a genius.

yeah, it's difficult
but I want something more ;>

 

[QuickTwist]

Absolute sense doesn't ask why, unless your talking about the person who is pure sense and being asked why, in which case they could only answer what they observe. This would mean they would have to rely on Si to answer the questions which in turn would mean they would have to have a very good knowledge base.

 

[Yellow]

I hear if you can answer why 10 times in a row you are a genius.

I never heard that one, but it is a common theory that by the 5th "why?" you will reach either the root problem (in troubleshooting) or a core belief. So I guess 10 rounds could be considered an accomplishment.

Can you come up sense of doing something or be someone, which would immune to question "why"?

I don't think there are any questions to which we cannot apply "why?" effectively. I only say this because I think we feel compelled to have a reason for things, and we all have at least some grain of [self]doubt in explanations of life, the universe, and everything. Even things that are supposed to be taken on faith like "because that's the way God made it" or "I don't know" can still be well countered with "why?".

Sure, you may get stuck in loops, but I would propose that it is a sign of someone running out of knowledge, insight, or patience.

 

[Grayman]

The why you do things goes back to how you define life. There is no value in anything without life but life is different for everyone.

 

[TheManBeyond]

i dunno bro, something like why did the first movement of what we know as big bang happen?
i mean you can answer hyphotetical hows but not whys there no?

 

[Grayman]

i dunno bro, something like why did the first movement of what we know as big bang happen?
i mean you can answer hyphotetical hows but not whys there no?

The life question isn't meant to be an external question. It demands a personal answer.

 

[QuickTwist]

Even a question like "why do you have the name you have?" can be very difficult with enough whys.

 

[Ex-User (8886)]

there is only need to find something with one "why", something independent from other reasons;

it seems easy

in other words, I need goal without goal

 

[QuickTwist]

I'd like to argue that Ni is the best at answering "why?"

 

[TheManBeyond]

The life question isn't meant to be an external question. It demands a personal answer.

yes i mean of course. everything can be explained from god's perspective i guess

 

[Ex-User (8886)]

I'd like to argue that Ni is the best at answering "why?"

Ne, Ti and Te are also good

 

[QuickTwist]

Ne, Ti and Te are also good

Yeah. I think its a toss up between Ni Fe and Ti Ne for the best combo of answering why.

 

[Ex-User (8886)]

Guys, I found the answer. I'm suprised you didn't found that before me.

The answer is:
doing what you don't want to do, and to have no reason to do something, is something which don't have any sense, so what is the sense of asking "why"? I mean, when someone ask you why are you hurt yourself, you say, there is no reason. Someone would say, there can be question why something don't have reason, and after same answer ask another same question and make loop. But for now, it's sufficent answer for me.

Unfortunetly, my answer is masochism. Doing what you don't want to.

 

[QuickTwist]

Best not to get stuck in that paradigm.

 

[Grayman]

yes i mean of course. everything can be explained from god's perspective i guess

? I am not certain where god fits in this...


Example: To me life is Family. It is my role in the unity of family and children and wife. My smaller values umbrella from this and support it. I think jobs are important to sustain family but jobs are not important in and of themselves.

I know this is how I define life because I would give up my physical existence to sustains its continuation.

But this is how I define 'my' life and it is expected that each has to define their own. What freedom do we really have if we try to take that from others?

 

[TheManBeyond]

? I am not certain where god fits in this...

Example: To me life is Family. It is my role in the unity of family and children and wife. My smaller values umbrella from this and support it. I think jobs are important to sustain family but jobs are not important in and of themselves.

I know this is how I define life because I would give up my physical existence to sustains its continuation.

But this is how I define 'my' life and it is expected that each has to define their own. What freedom do we really have if we try to take that from others?

What i meant was that i was trying to debiate answers into an objective area since everything could be explained subjectively hence there's no absolute sense answer to questions. I know it is kind of absurd but it was the only way i could think of trying to go full T. If that makes sense. XD

 

[EyeSeeCold]

"Why?"

Because it is so.

Why not?

 

[Grayman]

I'd like to argue that Ni is the best at answering "why?"

The best at defining for themselves perhaps but the worst at arguing. Any number get irritated at the very question for to them it just is.

 

[Grayman]

Ni vs Ti when asking why....

http://www.infjs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28995&highlight=users+ask+questions

 

[scenefinale]

Can you come up sense of doing something or be someone, which would immune to question "why"?

Much like Euclid attempted to do with his axioms. For Elements his search was for the most fundamental intuitions, the things so "intuitively obvious" that they must be undeniably true. Axioms to serve as foundations on which all his work could take root.