Am I truly an INTP?

[Pride]

While I am quite certain, there have always been doubts, so humour me if you would.

I have thought with certainty for quite some time that I am an INTP, without doubt or question. However, recent developments in both my personal life and what I would identify as a growth of maturity both on an interpersonal and intrapersonal level has caused a slight shift in my overall perception of the external world, so to speak.

It is rather difficult to specify every exacting detail of what goes on in my mind, because it is (and has always been) a place of abstraction; dense, hazy, and often nebulous.

There are specific descriptions of Fi-traits or Fi-inspired traits that I have identified with. Whether this is because my Fi has been maturing, or whether I am actually a mistyped INFP has been nagging at the dark recesses of my mind.

Looking back to my own development from when I was a teenager until the current day (I am currently in my early 20's), I can still see, quite clearly, how I was rather repressed emotionally from middle to high school. During that period, I spent countless hours reading and researching various schools of thought be it theistic, philosophical, or simply spiritualist in nature in an attempt to better understand the world and my place within it. Sounds rather Fi-based, does it not?

As I grew in maturity, age, and crystallized knowledge/information, my personal bias for objectivity, logic, and rationality eventually became stronger and stronger, becoming the locus of my external relationship with both people and the world around me. I grew colder, more apathetic, and more confident with each passing season. I am not sure whether this is simply the natural development of my genetic predisposition/personality type [with external stimuli], or a reactive backlash against a world that I felt was both meaningless and uncaring. After all, where is the logic in trying to help others when the majority of the human species could not care less whether I live or die?

While I realize that those people who I have close emotional or biological ties would certainly be affected by my well-being, my logic and rationale for being essentially a heartless asshole to most people seemed rooted in objective, observable phenomenon. I fully admit that it is processed through my own subjective lens, and may be less objective than I see it however. With inductive reasoning, I felt that my justifications were strong enough for me to behave in such a way as to remain intellectually honest. There was simply no reason strong enough to compel me to act like a caring, selfless human being.

Let us go to the next point then, which is how I interacted with the external world and society despite my rather cynical outlook. I view (and still do) myself as more or less a "chameleon." I observe and analyze the behaviors, personalities, and preferences of individuals and groups and respond accordingly in order to achieve my desired outcome within the context of my relationship with said external individual/group. For example: I will suck-up to my professors in university if it means forming a closer relationship, with the intention of using that relationship to get a better grade in class. I will outright reject friendship if I find someone to be intellectually insufferable, without concern for their thoughts or feelings. I view to this day rationality and intellectual honestly as the highest principle to which I hold both myself and others to; if they do not meet or attempt to meet this criterion, then I usually see them as intellectually inferior, and not worthy of friendship (unless there is some other rationale, and it needs to be good; e.g. said individual will aid me into getting a certain job somewhere, etc).

I know everything I've stated up until now probably makes me look like a psychopath or sociopath in certain regards, but I highly doubt this to be true because emotions certainly do exist for me. I don't view emotions as unnecessary or even place them on the list of non-important psychological attributes, but rather it is my preference to separate emotion and logic; feeling and rationality. I do believe with all honestly that one's interpersonal and intrapersonal emotional stability & health are vital in maintaining a sense of tranquility and solidarity, and in this regard, I place quite a bit of emotional investment in those who I deem to be close friends. It is simply difficult for me to open up to people because my arrogance and lack of trust are extremely difficult barriers to break down, even for myself.

TL;DR: Pride is an asshole, who was depressed as a teenager, who then started to take solace in his intellectual capacity for reason, learning, critical thinking and information archiving, and developed a sense of arrogance and security within that internal system. As of now, he is so wrapped up in his preference for logic & rationality that he has a hard time making friends with people who do not have the capacity for strong critical thinking or behave in irrational ways. He is not sure whether his capacity for caring & the needs may be his original or natural state of being, and whether his preference for rationality & intellectual honestly are just defensive mechanisms to hide an original state of kindness and irrationality... (I am not sure what the original state might be; this is just an assumption)

What do you think, ladies and gentlemen? Do I "sound" like an INTP? Or maybe something else... (like an alien?)

 

[Auburn]

*smiles*

 

[Pride]

I think you just invoked my Ne.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

I see many similarities to myself. However: I am mostly not an asshole, don't take pride in an ability to -reason- per se, nor do I become arrogant because of it, except due to outside expectations.

You certainly sound like someone more comfortable with T, but could always be faking. Fi can still be a pressing force regardless of type (probably not for an Fi dom though - if you were Fi-Ne this surge of Fi would not ever be alien to you), and may well not surface until later times in life.

Get your mojo read.

 

[Auburn]

I think you just invoked my Ne.

Possibly?
I've seen some of your posts around,
welcome to the forum.

I find your OP interesting and wanted to share some thoughts but had to type them first and proofread..

From just my guess, you sound more like a Ti heavy INFJ. My experience with INFJs is that their innate preferences (Ni), especially in males, often becomes more attached to their third function (Ti) due to the 'reliability' it provides them when their top two functions' expressions often doesn't translate into very academically or professionally respected ways.

The interests, ideas and reasonings of an INFJ without input from their lower functions are often laughed at by others - and since they are a very sensitive type to the opinion of others (Fe) and their own opinion of themselves they may reject their own ideas (i.e. Their affinity for faith, desire for deity, things more esoteric) and convince themselves Logic is the way to go.

They turn to their Ti as a defense mechanism against the criticism of a world (and eventually, themselves) who requires objective validity before they take concepts/them seriously - - which is difficult and unnatural for them since their hierarchy starts at Ni (abstract) and ends at Se (tangible).

Um.. anyhow >.> this Ni-Ti mixture creates an individual with a very strongly subjective and adamant (perhaps arrogant is appropriate) sense of truth - and because they are 'suppressing' Fe in the process, (except they really aren't) it doesn't manifest benevolently as it would otherwise. Their attempt to suppress Fe simply makes it ill and they still manifest it, but in the form of Projected Judgment toward less rational people.

In short, an Ni-Ti INFJ trusts their Ti more than their Fe (and may even come to dislike others who display Fe freely) but still end up with an Fe-coloured-Ti that has a relationship to others that is *not* primarily dispassionate, hence creating a type of zealous/righteous logic.

Their often passionate dislike for irrational people is something an INTP would not display normally. It takes a hell of a lot for an INTP to become cynical or heavily arrogant. Without the introduction of any difficult psychological stress in upbringing, an INTP's logic manifests more as a playful and childish/quirky/dorky curiosity, often scatterbrained and continually open to change of opinion. They know the danger of trusting their own opinion too highly and not being able to adapt, so it's more common than an INTP have low self confidence. Their inferior Fe may also add to this lack of confidence.

It is also generally somewhat more common for Ni-Ti to become prideful and arrogant, not to say INTPs are incapable of arrogance (Ti-Si) but due to the highly personal and subjective (often difficult to explain/translate) nature of Ni, Ni doms are more prone to put higher weight in their own opinions than a Ti-Ne user - and commonly also a sense of "the world doesn't understand me, everyone is too stupid, i'm the only conscious brain in a world of idiots". ;p

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But I don't know enough about you to make that call. I'm just sharing my understanding of *one* type who often undergoes this pattern of starting out gentle and becoming more closed off - spiraling into their logic as anchorage.

o.o still editing..

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Looking back to my own development from when I was a teenager until the current day (I am currently in my early 20's), I can still see, quite clearly, how I was rather repressed emotionally from middle to high school. During that period, I spent countless hours reading and researching various schools of thought be it theistic, philosophical, or simply spiritualist in nature in an attempt to better understand the world and my place within it. Sounds rather Fi-based, does it not?

To back up INFJ w/ reliance on Ti: this fits me, and is actually Ni-Fe, not Fi. You are not sincerely arrogant, rather you just have a hard time toning down the Ni-Ti which can alienate others who feel that they just don't understand, and assume you think you're better than them. I don't know if your relationships with other people are healthy, or even your over-love of logic in general. However this wouldn't be the first time in INFJs.

You don't seem averse to the possibility that you are an F, and in a male this would indicate that you probably are indeed F, but you are certainly not F dominant, so the assumed answer is Ni-Fe.

-On the other hand-
You could be Ni-Te, with suppressed Fi, that became pressing despite your natural tendencies towards Thinking. In this case, advising a route designed for Feelers may be harmful. You may just need the closure with your Fi so that your Te can be put back into proper functioning.

I would advise following treatments for all types and functions, and narrowing down the treatments which are having the most effect.

 

[Pride]

Me, a Judger? Well, this is something new.

I have always scored extremely high on Perceiving, on MBTI tests.

All the typical attributes attached to Judging are ones which I have found polarity with: preference for schedules and plans; preference for decision-making before applying the rationale; preference for procrastination without any definite plan to even initiate work; preference for closure on various interests, goals, and projects in life.

None of the above apply to me. For example, I am somewhat of an extreme procrastinator; I tend to start of every school term extremely strong, particularly on subjects I am passionate about but as time goes by an passion wanes I, too, start to lose interest. I have a hard time staying on any one subject/project/thing; this applies to MBTI as well. I was interested in typology two years ago, lost interest, and am now back. I am quite certain that after a period of time, I will start to lose interest once again and disappear indefinitely.

That said, please help me analyze the Judging bias for "confidence" in their conclusions (that confidence often displayed by INTJs). As I matured and grew up, my external display of confidence has also increased, much to my surprise and satisfaction. Let me try and explain:

When I learn about a subject-matter, say a certain brand of philosophy, I will first attempt to gain a basic understanding of the general theory and the logic behind it. Next I will start to analyze and absorb new information regarding the specific details of that particular theory. After I feel like my understanding of the logic behind the theory is accurate, I will then attempt to deconstruct the theory under scrutiny by applying external objective criterion which I deem (previously) to be accurate representation of reality, and how that theory matches up to other accepted theories in the fields of science & philosophy.

Once I have deemed a theory or a claim to be probabilistically true/accurate, I will in all likelihood act rather adamant when another individual denounces that theory/claim's validity without sufficient reason and evidence.

However, internally, I am usually not 100% certain of anything, which as far as I know is not a true representation of someone with a Judging inclination (perhaps a weak Judger? I don't know). It is almost as if I am trying to test what I hold to be true against the external world and other individuals' viewpoints by adamantly holding on to a position, in an attempt to either validate or invalidate that position, for myself. If there is ample reason and evidence for me to eventually reject that notion, I typically do.

However, for me to even become that adamant in the first place, I would have needed to research a fuckload of data both supporting and denouncing whatever theory/position/claim that I was learning about. For example, although I am confident that the claim "god does not exist" is most likely true, I still, almost everyday, listen to the arguments against that claim in an attempt to discover inconsistencies and weaknesses in that argument.

You don't seem averse to the possibility that you are an F, and in a male this would indicate that you probably are indeed F, but you are certainly not F dominant, so the assumed answer is Ni-Fe.

Well, that is because ultimately I don't see Feeling as "emotion" per se, but rather a subjective interpretation of the external world being the higher preference, rather than one that is rooted in an attempt to attain objective truth (Thinking). If you disagree with my assessment of Feeling/Thinking, feel free to comment.

Things to consider:

1. I am not socially awkward. I prefer being asocial, but when the situation demands, I can easily adapt to perceived expectations from others. However, it is taxing after a time. This also goes for women and dating; I don't have a very difficult time flirting or getting women to like me. Granted, I am not a player or some cocky extravert who can pick up girls anywhere, but I am not anything like the typically depicted INTP who is scared to talk with women. I was, when I was a teenager, so in this regard I think it has more to do with simply observing, analyzing, and applying what I learned to be necessary qualities when dealing with intrapersonal relationships.

2. I have healthy relationships with people in general. My arrogance or aloofness is more of less of a means to dissuade people from wanting to befriend me, because I don't want to deal with them in general. I believe this manifests itself moreso currently because I am in school; I find most other students insufferable in the classroom when I am trying to concentrate and learn information, while they view learning as a chore that should be avoided. I love learning, so this is my subjective aversion to people who dislike it. Arrogance then, I suppose, the external manifestation of that aversion when I encounter people of opposing preferences of personalities. My relationship with my family is very healthy.

3. As stated above, I am rather lazy. I hate making plans or schedules (a feeling of being chained; lack of freedom). I can be spontaneous, but only when my desire for [physical] activity overcomes my aversion to [physical] activity. In this regard, let's say that I am hanging out at Universal Studios for Halloween on a blind date or something set up by my friends. I would probably actually enjoy myself while there, and would act spontaneously and try to have a good time. However, the decision to ACTUALLY GO would have to be the first thing I overcome. More often than not, I will choose to not go. In this regard, laziness > spontaneity, not because I dislike being spontaneous, but because my laziness prevents me from being in the environment to act spontaneously. Makes sense?

4. I have a fucking problem with correcting other peoples' loopholes in logic, spelling, grammar, conventions, or other little tiny details of this nature. When my anal-retentive ISTJ friend was bitching about how messy my apartment is and how it's illogical to make a physical mess because it increases the time needed to find particular items within the apartment/mess, I retorted with something along the lines of: "well, it would seem that neglecting to use proper words, grammar and diction in your daily speech is also illogical because it forces an unnecessary amount of explanation and correction in what you are actually trying to say."

Other Food For Thought:

INTJ/INFJ excerpt:

"For instance, one INFJ experienced a great deal of stress on a message board when some political bashing started. There was an implicit assumption that everyone on the board was a member of a particular party, when in fact this INFJ knew members of the opposing party were present. It caused her no end of stress that these people were being maligned by the bashers, even though there was no apparent conflict. Other INFJs maintain internet blogs and "connect" with others in cyberspace, and maintain their web of relationship via that means. If she were to dine with others, she would be concerned that the food appeal to everyone's tastes, there are no food allergies, and that the price is within everyone's budget (if it's a restaurant)."

The above quote is completely unlike me (I really, truly could not care less if everyone thought the food tasted good, for example). However, there are attributes in the INFJ profile which I do identify with.

 

[Dapper Dan]

During that period, I spent countless hours reading and researching various schools of thought be it theistic, philosophical, or simply spiritualist in nature in an attempt to better understand the world and my place within it. Sounds rather Fi-based, does it not?

...

Let us go to the next point then, which is how I interacted with the external world and society despite my rather cynical outlook. I view (and still do) myself as more or less a "chameleon." I observe and analyze the behaviors, personalities, and preferences of individuals and groups and respond accordingly in order to achieve my desired outcome within the context of my relationship with said external individual/group.

I don't know much about Fi (it's the least of my shadow functions, after all), but both of these points are familiar to this INTP. I've seen the chameleon thing brought up on these boards before, and diving into philosophy is standard procedure.

That being said, I agree with Auburn that persistent arrogance is an oddity for an INTP. Both Auburn and Artsu have some good points.

Can you tell whether you are Ne or Ni? That might help narrow the choices.

Edit:
This...

However, internally, I am usually not 100% certain of anything, which as far as I know is not a true representation of someone with a Judging inclination (perhaps a weak Judger? I don't know). It is almost as if I am trying to test what I hold to be true against the external world and other individuals' viewpoints by adamantly holding on to a position, in an attempt to either validate or invalidate that position, for myself. If there is ample reason and evidence for me to eventually reject that notion, I typically do.

is also very INTP.

 

[Pride]

How should I say it? It's not arrogance for the sake of being arrogant. I don't think I am inherently superior.

It's arrogance based on the observation and experiential data I have from my intrapersonal relationships and developments: most people I've met are not fucking intellectually honest!!!

OK, going to lash out with my emotions for one second. Forgive me.

It pissed me off to no end that people would rather hold onto beliefs, opinions, and claims that make them feel good on the inside, or make them feel good as a group, than to face reality, facts, and objectivity!!!

Enough details. Let's give a real life example.

Enter philosophy class: Some dumb bitch asked the professor a question abut determinism. The professor gave her a detailed explanation. Her response? "I don't even understand everything you're saying, but I can't agree with it..."

IF YOU CAN'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND THE ROOT BASIS OF HIS CLAIM, THEN HOW CAN YOU FUCKING DISAGREE WITH IT!?!? WHAT IS THIS FUCKING MADNESS!?!?!!!!!

So you see? If people are like this, and the majority of people I've met in real life are indeed like this, then yes, I will be an arrogant motherfucker, because the base problem is not my intellectual honesty, but their intellectual dishonesty!!!!!


*breaths slowly*


GOD THAT FELT FUCKING GOOD.


End rant.

 

[Minuend]

Procrastination is more a human thing than a J vs P thing me thinks. Motivation is something to be found within, which is a difficult task for most.

 

[Auburn]

(I will say this, whatever type you are, I appreciate your writing style. It flows very elegantly.)

I dunno if I'm qualified to comment any more on your possible type without crossing over to weak-based speculation =p ..but I'll just say that I think you're most definitely either INFJ, INTJ or INTP (in the order of likelihood from my opinion o.o).. Whichever of the three you are, you definitely have some dexterity with your lower two functions. When types get dexterous enough with their lower functions, it becomes really difficult to distinguish which type they are. With the exception of groups like Pod'lair who profess to hold an fullproof way to identify type, it'd likely take a lot of personal research and prolonged exposure to people who are aware of the nuances of personality types, to narrow it down.


Um, but as for some general understanding of Judgers..
The stereotypes of Judgers being planners and such don't actually hold much weight. If you haven't yet seen the link here, it might help a bit? MBTI is the repackaging of a much more intricate theory which had no P vs J dichotomy.. oh drat, ninja'd by Minuend!

 

[Pride]

Thank you for the link.

I am also flattered you enjoy my writing style.

 

[Auburn]

Well crap, I'm getting sucked into this. xP
This..

It pissed me off to no end that people would rather hold onto beliefs, opinions, and claims that make them feel good on the inside, or make them feel good as a group, than to face reality, facts, and objectivity!!!

..is a prime example of Judging. Fe judgement to be exact.

As you can see it has nothing to do with keeping planners, but the natural desire to externalize the dynamics one views as reasonable in a situation. In your case, the dynamics you see as reasonable is "people *should* be intellectually honest".

If you possessed no external judgment at all, you would have no internal rage or distaste for the way the external world operates. The desire (regardless of whether that actually manifests) to move the world in your direction, or wish it was a certain way that seems more fair/reasonable - is a judgment tendency. Granted INTPs have Fe too, as inferior, so that just gives less credence to INTJ. Hmm..

Edit: Looking over this thread again, and your edits, you sound like quite a classic academic INFJ. That's my vote at least. You're welcome for the link and hope you enjoy your stay here. Happy reading. ^_^

 

[Pride]

I'm getting tired (physically) but, aren't INFJs suppose to care about how people feel?

 

[Auburn]

(*nods* Last post for the night, for me.)

It's not that cut and dry. Psychological types are not defined by behaviors, but by the underlying psychic processes that are propelling that behavior.

In the same way that an ave is not classified as simply "An Animal that can Fly" (penguins and ostriches can't fly, for example, and bats (which are mammals) and even some fish do fly) - types are classified by their four top cognitive processes, which can produce similar/overlapping behaviors when combined. The 4 processes for each being:

INFJ = Ni-Fe-Ti-Se
INTJ = Ni-Te-Fi-Se
INFP = Fi-Ne-Si-Te
INTP = Ti-Ne-Si-Fe
ENTP = Ne-Ti-Fe-Si
ENFP = Ne-Fi-Te-Si
ENFJ = Fe-Ni-Se-Ti
ENTJ = Te-Ni-Se-Fi
ISFP = Fi-Se-Ni-Te
ISTP = Ti-Se-Ni-Fe
ISTJ = Si-Te-Fi-Ne
ISFJ = Si-Fe-Ti-Ne
ESFP = Se-Fi-Te-Ni
ESTP = Se-Ti-Fe-Ni
ESTJ = Te-Si-Ne-Fi
ESFJ = Fe-Si-Ne-Ti

As for INFJs being caring..
Being a certain personality doesn't automatically make you nice. Any type can be caring or also coldhearted.. (but they have varying reasons for it).

 

[crippli]

I'm getting tired (physically) but, aren't INFJs suppose to care about how people feel?

I was under the impression it's more how you feel about others. Let's review the following quotes.

So you see? If people are like this, and the majority of people I've met in real life are indeed like this, then yes, I will be an arrogant motherfucker, because the base problem is not my intellectual honesty, but their intellectual dishonesty!!!!!

Intellectual dishonesty is a moral and value judgment directed outwards, clearly Fe.

I notice you applied 'if', but I would consider the generalization to be on a thin line towards a fallacy. I would let the 'are' pass if it wasn't in bold. Its clearly your perception, and not empirical proof, but seems to be real for you.

*breaths slowly*


GOD THAT FELT FUCKING GOOD.


End rant.

Also, there's a saying that goes like this 'say it to my face bitcha'. And from the above it's clear you have emotion mastery, you know what you feel. If I experience an emotional reaction I become bewildered, like whoo, what is this?? Picture a cow that looks in the mirror or water reflection.

So, from this here, it appears to me your Fe is high. I'll let you decide how representative the quote is.

 

[Pride]

I was under the impression it's more how you feel about others. Let's review the following quotes.

Intellectual dishonesty is a moral and value judgment directed outwards, clearly Fe.

I notice you applied 'if', but I would consider the generalization to be on a thin line towards a fallacy. I would let the 'are' pass if it wasn't in bold. Its clearly your perception, and not empirical proof, but seems to be real for you.

My logic is based on inductive reasoning through years of exposure to people, no less real than anyone else's exposure to people. Observation & analysis is how I would describe how I personally make sense of the external world. I identify strong with the Ne description in general.

Also, there's a saying that goes like this 'say it to my face bitcha'. And from the above it's clear you have emotion mastery, you know what you feel. If I experience an emotional reaction I become bewildered, like whoo, what is this?? Picture a cow that looks in the mirror or water reflection.

So, from this here, it appears to me your Fe is high. I'll let you decide how representative the quote is.

It is also probable for an INTP to develop a more mature Fe, in comparison to "typical" INTPs.

I would disagree that I have mastery over Fe. When I feel good, I act carefree and lighthearted. When I'm angry, depressed, or upset, I usually bottle it up and release it in high doses, like an explosion. I'm not sure what to do with negative emotions. I go to Thai boxing, and it helps a bit (to hit things very, very hard).

My control over emotion is... alright, I suppose. From the profiles of other INTPs I've read, it seems that my Fe may be a bit more developed. Even when happy, I express emotions in a very minute way, physically speaking. I'm usually happiest, most fulfilled when doing an activity such as this: writing and organizing my thoughts into something coherent. It gives me a sense of focus that I find difficult to capture in virtually all other activities, save perhaps for playing music. When writing extremely detailed essays, research papers or simply forum posts, I somehow feel very real, concrete. The abstractions within my mind, which I would describe as murky and intangible, are somehow made real externally; pure thought given form.

Here is a very accurate description of myself: when I am using thought, reasoning, and logical structuring, I feel a sense of tranquility and harmony. When I feel negative emotions in general, it feels..... unfathomable, like a great murky swamp which I cannot grasp and make sense of. It pulls apart from within and eats away at me until I can rid myself of those emotions.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Me, a Judger? Well, this is something new.

MBTI messed up the fourth dichotomy. An INFJ is a dominant perceiver according to MBTI, and so should score INFP. This makes no sense though. You could alternatively say that Ni-Fe should be INFP, which imo makes more sense.

Anyway, assuming you are Ni, you are either Ni-Te (I don't know of any confirmed Ni-Te really, but you don't fit what my picture of one was, in that your writing has a sort of poetic quality to it which I can't see Te doing) or a different shade of Ni-Fe from me so idk ("Academic Nai'Xyy" is probably right). Just get your mojo read.

 

[crippli]

MBTI messed up the fourth dichotomy. An INFJ is a dominant perceiver according to MBTI, and so should score INFP.

In MBTI judging is described by the feeling/thinking functions. Ti, Te, Fe, Fi. Extroverted judging function will make you a judger.

MBTI judging is typically described if you have these qualities.
-systematic -> casual
-planful -> open ended
-early starting -> pressure prompted
-scheduled -> spontaneous
-methodical -> emergent

Details
https://www.cpp.com/pdfs/smp267149v.pdf

 

[Words]

What an attention whore...

You're response to this is essential, imo.

 

[Pride]

Jokes, jokes.

 

[Dapper Dan]

Everything you say makes me think INTP. You identify strongly with Ne. Fe is present but confusing. Ti seems to underlie everything you do. Your reaction to the philosophy girl hints at an Si value judgement.

Assuming you're an I, it's gotta be INTP. You've probably just been developing (or at least noticing) your Fe lately.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

I'm getting tired (physically) but, aren't INFJs suppose to care about how people feel?

Typically egocentricism is associated with being a Thinker, with Feelers having something like "group-Thinking". I can't really imagine an INFJ being apathetic towards people no matter how reserved they are, and especially if they have no trouble socialising, would be expected to be very empathetic. Even the "Academic" Ni-Fe tends to have moral goals underlying their work. This may not always be the case

off topic-ish J/P stuff

Spoiler

In MBTI judging is described by the feeling/thinking functions. Ti, Te, Fe, Fi. Extroverted judging function will make you a judger.

MBTI judging is typically described if you have these qualities.
-systematic -> casual
-planful -> open ended
-early starting -> pressure prompted
-scheduled -> spontaneous
-methodical -> emergent

Well, to argue against myself for a moment, MBTI was largely focused on careers, and whether the individual would work best in a job where there were structures you had to adhere to, or whether the person worked better with free schedules. Their reasoning would have been that: a work environment is an external entity, and what is essentially being looked at is whether this external entity would be seen primarily as a body of decisions, judgements etc. where structure is the norm, or as a source of perception, of stimuli to deal with directly as it seemed appropriate.

So, with the focal point on your relation to an external environment, Judging would be Je, Perceiving would be Pe. However, if your focus is on the individual as is, then you would expect that it would be over all Perception compared to Judgement levels that would be important. A Ji type for example would not really like having to adhere to external structures, however they themselves should be very structured, and appear very "Judger" like. As examples, the character of Sheldon (and Parsons himself) is Ji dominant, and so would apparently be best in a work environment where he decides his own structure, and so is a P, however when viewed as an individual seems to be very "J-like" (there are other examples of Ti-Ne being perceived as very J). This is because their dominant process is indeed a judging one, and so that is how they primarily come across.

By contrast, I value structure in my external environment, but left to my own am not at all structured - much more open ended, pressure based, not methodical etc. and score as a P despite being a Directive (Pi+Je) type. I doubt these cases are the exceptions.

 

[Pride]

Thank you for all of your replies. I am still analyzing and internalizing all of this information.

Cheers.