Am I really an INTP?

[Sympathy for the Devil]

I am female, aged 22.

My tests always indicate that I am an INTP, but I have my doubts - I feel as though they are missing something or not asking all of the right questions.

For one, I think I am too romantic to be an INTP. I am a "romantic idealist", this idealism tinged with Christian perfectionism: My idea of the perfect love is like a gothic romance novel cliche (I have actually tried my hand at writing, and that is what it came out as: a romance novel cliche, with a touch of my gothic tastes). I also have this preoccupation with being aesthetically beautiful that goes beyond the normal women's preoccupation with this. I have extremely black and white thinking (either it's perfect, or it's garbage).

I have an odd preoccupation with things being beautiful and perfect, which draws me to things like classical ballet (my prime serious hobby; not professional). Every perceived flaw in myself drives me nuts.

While I am harder on myself than I am on others, and I never say anything to others (as that would not be proper), I can still be very "holier-than-thou" in my thoughts, particularly when someone is aesthetically displeasing, strikes me as "impure" (male or female), or strikes me as lacking intelligence.

There are many more things to consider than those mentioned that may not be signature INTP traits, but I do not want to ramble about myself for too long. I think I've listed, in brief, my most defining mental characteristics. In the descriptions I have read of INTPs, I just don't seem to match it.

However, I admit that MBTI is not my area of expertise, so I may be mistaken.

Are the traits that I have listed typical INTP traits? Or might I actually be another type? Thank you.

 

[Sinny91]

I like perfection, rarely achieve it tho. Not really concerned with appeareances. I'm a bit idealistic.

Have you taken the the Enneagram test? I don't know about other types as much as my own, but you could be a 1 or a 4, based on this minimal info.

Oh, and I don't do much romance, but when I do it's Gothic.

 

[Ex-User (11125)]

when someone is aesthetically displeasing, strikes me as "impure" (male or female), or strikes me as lacking intelligence.

seriously?

 

[Brontosaurie]

seriously?

I'd be surprised to meet a single person who doesn't perceive it that way.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

I'd be surprised to meet a single person who doesn't perceive it that way.

This mode of perception is deluded.

I'm surprised anyone can seriously see others like this.

 

[Brontosaurie]

This mode of perception is deluded.

I'm surprised anyone can seriously see others like this.

Well, i guess it depends on your criteria. I don't know about OP's specific criteria. Maybe they are deluded. The principle, however, is not. It's just very human, and quite mean.

Looks are indicators. We all base snap judgments on looks. Asymmetrical face, small eyes and obesity could be simple examples of stupidity indicators. Instinctively we expect less intelligence from people like that. In order to improve morally, we should be aware of such biases (so as to challenge them if necessary), not pretend they don't exist (so they can run rampant).

Don't shoot the messenger please.

 

[Ex-User (11125)]

the fact that OP thinks this is a significant enough facet to her personality/character/identity(considering she mentioned it on a type me thread) instead of a repulsive liability to her judgement and instead of trying to counter and suppress it is weird and worrying

im not free of undisclosed prejudices either btw

edit: ok so i guess we actually agree?

 

[Brontosaurie]

the fact that OP thinks this is a significant enough facet to her personality/character/identity(considering she mentioned it on a type me thread)

I'm reading that as a tendency of OP to look for evil and blame within herself, perhaps exarcebated by the myopia of some social isolation.

edit: ok so i guess we actually agree?

Splendid and remarkable, though not very potent fuel for conversation.

 

[Sympathy for the Devil]

...It's really not that complicated. I'm a Perfection Nazi with some narcissistic tendencies. The End.

I'm simply not sure if that is an INTP trait.

 

[Sinny91]

How extreme is this perfection stuff, any examples?

I associate perfection Nazi's with Judgers rather than Perceivers.

Anyone can be narcissistic.

 

[cheese]

Perfection nazi focused on aesthetics is probably a perception dominant thing of some kind. I'd guess INxJ (Ni dom) with inferior Se causing an obsession which is tied to worth.

That's just based on having seen this combo of traits before. Whether or not there's any validity is up to you, really. Can't help feeling I'm spewing bullshit.

 

[Brontosaurie]

...It's really not that complicated. I'm a Perfection Nazi with some narcissistic tendencies. The End.

I'm simply not sure if that is an INTP trait.

That's not an INTP trait, nor does it exclude INTP. I'd say it's type neutral, given the lack of explicit details.

I take your thread to mean that you're someone who observes something in herself rather than someone who necessarily shows it that much outwardly.

How does your perfectionism and narcissism express? Do you ridicule, mock or dismiss people based on their looks? Do you stubbornly and perpetually insist on irrational demands that interfere with the harmony, progress and well-being of those around you? Chances are if you're the kind of person who should answer "yes", you're not self-conscious enough to do that, let alone make this thread. Or maybe you are, kinda, but you're sublimating this fundamental ego-neurosis into aestheticism. Like a moral quarantine, it may seem.

Just guessing all over.

 

[Sly-fy]

Hi and welcome to the forum!

I have extremely black and white thinking (either it's perfect, or it's garbage).

If this is true then I agree with cheese that you`re more likely a judging type than a perceiving one. But maybe you are an INTP and (not meant to be taken as an offense) have some form of an OCD or Asperger`s syndrome. I know a number of people with Asperger`s and have worked with children who suffer from it, they`re usually very cool peeps but they are very nitpicky and highly focused that something is absolutely to their liking.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Yes, you are really the devil.

 

[QuickTwist]

So are judgers really judgers?

Anyways, the first step to correcting a mistake is knowing its a problem so you're on the right track :thumb:

 

[Nofriends]

I am female, aged 22.

My tests always indicate that I am an INTP, but I have my doubts - I feel as though they are missing something or not asking all of the right questions.

For one, I think I am too romantic to be an INTP. I am a "romantic idealist", this idealism tinged with Christian perfectionism: My idea of the perfect love is like a gothic romance novel cliche (I have actually tried my hand at writing, and that is what it came out as: a romance novel cliche, with a touch of my gothic tastes). I also have this preoccupation with being aesthetically beautiful that goes beyond the normal women's preoccupation with this. I have extremely black and white thinking (either it's perfect, or it's garbage).

I have an odd preoccupation with things being beautiful and perfect, which draws me to things like classical ballet (my prime serious hobby; not professional). Every perceived flaw in myself drives me nuts.

While I am harder on myself than I am on others, and I never say anything to others (as that would not be proper), I can still be very "holier-than-thou" in my thoughts, particularly when someone is aesthetically displeasing, strikes me as "impure" (male or female), or strikes me as lacking intelligence.

There are many more things to consider than those mentioned that may not be signature INTP traits, but I do not want to ramble about myself for too long. I think I've listed, in brief, my most defining mental characteristics. In the descriptions I have read of INTPs, I just don't seem to match it.

However, I admit that MBTI is not my area of expertise, so I may be mistaken.

Are the traits that I have listed typical INTP traits? Or might I actually be another type? Thank you.

Possibly insecurity? I am an INTP and I care quite a lot about how I look, having blue eyes helps with my insecurities, as it allows me to gaze into people's souls, or intimidate them.

About the black-white... it sounds like you could be suffering from perfectionism, do you have this habit where you just can't work when someone else is watching you, or your work, or even if an authority is standing 1-5 metres from you?
Do you have this tendency to spot all the flaws in your work after it was marked, and realise you could have gone from say a B+ to an A or A+? Like you are sort of in a constant state of improvement?

About your thoughts concerning the aesthetics and intelligence of others, I think they are quite normal... However, if you dislike them or try to engage them intellectually, you would feel a surge of superiority, yet still not much/any contempt or disdain for the latter??

 

[marceedoodles]

I am female, aged 22.

My tests always indicate that I am an INTP, but I have my doubts - I feel as though they are missing something or not asking all of the right questions.

For one, I think I am too romantic to be an INTP. I am a "romantic idealist", this idealism tinged with Christian perfectionism: My idea of the perfect love is like a gothic romance novel cliche (I have actually tried my hand at writing, and that is what it came out as: a romance novel cliche, with a touch of my gothic tastes). I also have this preoccupation with being aesthetically beautiful that goes beyond the normal women's preoccupation with this. I have extremely black and white thinking (either it's perfect, or it's garbage).

I have an odd preoccupation with things being beautiful and perfect, which draws me to things like classical ballet (my prime serious hobby; not professional). Every perceived flaw in myself drives me nuts.

While I am harder on myself than I am on others, and I never say anything to others (as that would not be proper), I can still be very "holier-than-thou" in my thoughts, particularly when someone is aesthetically displeasing, strikes me as "impure" (male or female), or strikes me as lacking intelligence.

There are many more things to consider than those mentioned that may not be signature INTP traits, but I do not want to ramble about myself for too long. I think I've listed, in brief, my most defining mental characteristics. In the descriptions I have read of INTPs, I just don't seem to match it.

However, I admit that MBTI is not my area of expertise, so I may be mistaken.

Are the traits that I have listed typical INTP traits? Or might I actually be another type? Thank you.

Fun fact, the thing about INTPs being not too romantic is actually kind of a stereotype (which is actually quite common in INTPs), so there is a chance that some INTPs will contradict the stereotype.
However, the perfectionist part of yourself, might be an indicator that you are actually an INTJ, but I highly doubt that.

Seeing from the fact that you doubt being an INTP, I'd say you are an INTP. I too doubted my MBTI type for a while after taking the test, ha ha.

 

[Nebulous]

Hi and welcome to the forum!

If this is true then I agree with cheese that you`re more likely a judging type than a perceiving one. But maybe you are an INTP and (not meant to be taken as an offense) have some form of an OCD or Asperger`s syndrome. I know a number of people with Asperger`s and have worked with children who suffer from it, they`re usually very cool peeps but they are very nitpicky and highly focused that something is absolutely to their liking.

I'm an INTP who has very black and white thinking in a lot of areas.
I wasn't aware of that until hearing four different psychs say that I was.
I also have OCD and emotional dysregulation (according to psychs. I agree w both)
But I am definitely an INTP.

 

[Nebulous]

About the black-white... it sounds like you could be suffering from perfectionism, do you have this habit where you just can't work when someone else is watching you, or your work, or even if an authority is standing 1-5 metres from you?
Do you have this tendency to spot all the flaws in your work after it was marked, and realise you could have gone from say a B+ to an A or A+? Like you are sort of in a constant state of improvement?

I think extreme perfectionism is common in INTPs.
I definitely have it