Am I a feeler or a thinker?

[lonewolf]

Yo.

I'm (almost) sure I'm Ji/Pe, probably Ne, but I can't decide if Fi or Ti. I went from being completely sure I was Ti-dom to being completely sure I used Fi in less than two days, and now I'm back to having no idea.

Does any of this sound like Fi to you?

I hate seeing people being bullied or animals being tortured (but I guess most people do). I used to be against animal testing without even knowing that there were alternatives, basically I didn't care if making it illegal would have meant no more medicines, I just wanted it to stop because I thought human life wasn't worth torturing innocent creatures (and also no more medicines = overpopulation issues solved).

When I was 13-15 I was kinda emotional (adolescence, ahh). I didn't go around talking about my feelings, but when I was in a bad mood (most of the time) you could see it in my face or in the way I spoke. I didn't talk about it but I didn't try to hide it.

In middle school I used to be friends with two of my classmates, and one of them was my best friend. Once a week we would go to the gym (for PE) which wasn't in the school, and the rule was "in the streets and on the pavement always walk in pairs." I could never walk with my best friend because our other friend always wanted to stay with her and tell her about her problems or her new clothes or whatever. So, one day I got angry at her and said (aggressively) that I was sick of having to walk behind them like a third wheel and that I thought she was jealous of our (me and best friend) friendship. Maybe a T would have let it go.

I can rant about how uncomfortable my pants are (and criticize the textile industry) or how x is a slut for hours. This is probably not Fi, but definitely not Ti. Maybe Fe, but I sure don't have it as one of my top two functions.

I would get super angry because of little things I don't care about anymore. For example Green Day were one of my favourite bands and when my father called them Green Gay I reacted like "OMG HOW DARE YOU". Now if someone made fun of something I like, I'd probably laugh with them. (could have been inferior Fe but I don't know)

BUT

I don't think I'm a good friend because I find it very hard to be there for others. If they have a problem I can help them find a solution or I can think of a different way of looking at it, but I see no point in trying to comfort them, although that's probably what I'm expected to do so I try my best

This is probably not enough but I don't know what else to say.

Also, what are some real life examples of how different functions (especially judging functions) would behave in the same situation?

 

[nanook]

from what you say: 100% FiTe 0% TiFe

what you list as possible contradictions aren't, in my understanding.

 

[Architect]

Having trouble disambiguating T and F is common for INTP's an INFP's, given they they both have the opposite in their inferior, so both are one and desire the other. Ti/Fe for INTP and Fi/Te for the INFP.

Don't know otherwise, but I'd point out that all your examples are prototypical of an INFP, which can apply to an INTP in a smaller way (INFP's, and NF's in general are big into injustice). The equivalent INTP example would be a bunch of examples of how much they were on the computer, the variety of interests they had, the theories as to why they were one versus the other, etc.

 

[TheManBeyond]

I relate to most of what you say, especially to the rant part, i can talk shit of people for hours, normally they deserve it. But also i may not know that much someone and hypothesize about him being a bad person becuz yes which is clearly Te.
What i don't relate to is the green day thing. If it is not their taste ok, i wouldn't care at all. btw insomniac is their best album.

 

[lonewolf]

Thanks everyone.

One thing that might have led me to mistype as a T was being seen as an insensitive geek (mainly by Fe users), but now that I think about it, I guess it makes sense since Fi is introverted and they didn't get to see it.

What i don't relate to is the green day thing.

Neither do I, now. I think I cared a little too much, but I was 13 and a dumb fangirl.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Fi-Ne

 

[thoughtfully]

I can totally relate to your uncertainty as to what you are. I feel the same way. Lurking hasn't helped me much.

One thing is odd. Some have said Fi. Why can't this be Fe as you are bouncing openly about your feelings to others? I don't talk openly about my feelings normally but I know what they are if I tried and could tell you. Right now I feel all mixed up with a desire to straighten things out.

 

[TheManBeyond]

It is easier when you try to look at the T function. Are you a bossy person?, do you see people as mere objects you use to achive your goals?, i mean, this is how the inferior Fi suposedlly works but this way it's easier to understand Fi or Fe.

For example. When i was in my band i was like the "creative leader", i was in charge to compose all the songs and obviously i wanted to project a certain vibe from us. Problems started when i didn't want others members to participate on the creative process cuz i felt songs were my creations and that their pure uniqueness would have been corrupted if somebody else, who didn't understand their essence and goal, had tried to apply some average tricks over them.
I think a Fe user would have been more interested in creative team work. But for me it doesn't feel the same, it stops working as a way to express yourself. This doesn't mean i didn't like a friendly ambience on our rehersals, but it was secondary for me. It goes from a sanctuary to an erasmus party.

In fact i had to lie, telling them they were amazingly good musicians just to make them feel important even if they weren't adding anything personal to it. I know, it was a shitty attitude and sometime it made me feel guilty for some issues we had with our bassist.
We learn from everything.

 

[StevenM]

I'm just gonna ramble some thoughts.

Ti vs Fi in INxP's:

INTP:
Gifted in analytical methods and strategies that suit their work. Quietly obsessed and stubborn with their own individual ways of tackling problems. Thus, somewhat entrepreneurial-minded, they like to work out problems themselves, carving out a unique path to success using a brilliant methodical process that suits them, consists of the most efficiency, and being most resourceful.

Almost completely lack personal taste and value. They genuinely follow the accepted values of others, except if it's contradictory to their logic. Whatever the group finds tasteful, the INTP has no qualms going along with if it's beneficial for everyone. This is where the politeness comes from, the laid-back side of the INTP. If it makes others happy, and others are accepting, it makes him happy. It's not really so much that they are gushing with Fe, they wouldn't ever 'think' of propagating values or feelings to others. Fe may 'accidentally' happen though from their strong aversion to their own feelings. When asked how they feel about something, they'll most likely respond what is acceptable to you, or if more honest, they will simply state 'they don't know'. Or they will break the solution down into a more impersonal, logical terms, and give comparison from there. Likely, they will present their lack of personal taste in the most polite and non-conflicting way.

INFP:
Gifted and original creators of aesthetics. They strive for independence of a new way to express themselves, revered to live in their own of works ranging from literature, music, and artistic design. A deep relationship with their self, they quietly and reflectively 'listen' to their dreams, their emotions and feelings. Collecting imaginative ideas from their environment and nature, it touches them deeply and sensitively. Inventive with creativity, they quietly work, obsessed with bringing these deep, beautiful 'worlds' found within themselves into the light of reality. Wonderful insights of the condition of life and living abounds from this.

However, lacking in proper management of strategically solving problems, and making sound decisions for themselves, many hardships befalls on them. They live life on a whim; a set sail, and the wind blows them wherever it may lead, though often crashing in unforeseen obstacles. This tends to have them seeking practical advice from others, they long for a sense of stability in a set structure and order for their lives. Just like before, they are not adamant with Te. Never would they think of imposing order on others. But 'Te' comes out accidentally, as they fail to find appropriate strategies from within, and thus tend to rely on the consensus of what is generally considered practical. Thus, they take it upon themselves to follow the decisions of others, they apply subservience to other's rule. They are more than happy to take suggestion to another persons strategical methods of solving problems.