Almost had a bad trip

[Black Rose]

My neighbor gave me liquid marijuana in a drink with me unknowingly taking it.

I called 911 when I started having effects.

Luckily nothing happened.

I left the hospital and the doctor gave me a paper.

Diagnosis: Bipolar, unspecified; Autistic Disorder; Obsesive-compulsive disorder | Stage 1 hypertension

I did everything I could to stop myself from having bad irrational thoughts.

That is what caused the hypertension I think.

 

[birdsnestfern]

Ok, I can't help but think that diagnosis is correct, because INTJs I've briefly known didn't seem schizophrenic, and did seem bipolar, or borderline, ie, emotions can suddenly flip. Mood swings. Glad you are ok now. Hope you and you neighbor can still be friendly.

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Anyway, you are too coherant to be schitzo. You actually do make sense and keep to wanting to speak about real things, not imaginary, thats why I couldn't see the SZ so much.

 

[Black Rose]

INTJs I've briefly known didn't seem schizophrenic, and did seem bipolar, or borderline, ie, emotions can suddenly flip. Mood swings.

I usually stay up 24 hours at a time 3 days a week now.

Borderline I think is a self-esteem issue (enneagram 7 expressiveness gone wrong)

SZ is what I call extremely reduced noise to signal (false positive)
ASD is too much noise to signal (blocking out)

So SZ is too much extraversion because of leakage

and ASD is too much introversion (a build-up).

That is in the normal Jungian sense.

When I was on the marijuana several times I thought that people and noises were about me. Got really paranoid. I could not separate my thoughts from the environment. this is what I think of as the leakage. Everything spreads too thin and I get really afraid because I cannot control what I think and the associations become real. it was like this for 3 days when I ate a cookie in 2022. Because it was a liquid this time it cleared the system really fast. but the reason my blood pressure was high was that I suppressed the High part of the drug effects. I had to ground myself so I got really really depressed and tense as I felt the cold spots in my stomach rise into my lungs. In effect, I had to remember to not give in to the fear. And tighten up real tight inside my organs to stop it. As I was doing so I could not think thoughts or I'd panic. But it was quiet outside so I was safe to call 911.

 

[dr froyd]

you have either a very charitable or very devious neighbor

 

[birdsnestfern]

ok, skip the cookies for sure then.

Still pondering how a drink causes cold spots that rise into the lungs or has that sensation, as cold spots seem ... other worldly.
Has this only happened in the present house you are in, or did it happen before you moved there?
Do your pets ever look up as if looking at spirits? Do you feel better when you are not in your house?

If the house is occupied by a ghost, it can actually cause mental issues, AND sleep deprivation, which in turn can cause
hallucinations. Anyway, maybe experiment and spend one night away, with a relative, or in a hotel just to see if you feel and sleep better.

I will take your word for it, but, you have masked it well, SZ is not apparent from what you write about or talk about.

The sleep deprivation itself can cause hallucinations though.

If you are staying up that much, it could definitely be causing some of that.

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[Black Rose]

Still pondering how a drink causes cold spots that rise into the lungs or has that sensation, as cold spots seem ... other worldly.

It is because the part of the brain that the gut organs are modeled in is the insula.

This is Si (introverted sensing)

It is like taking a cold shower but in the gut stomach and lungs.

I never feel my organs because of Ni but I heard that Si is gut intuition.

People feel things in the gut when things are about to happen.

Fear causes the gut to feel strange things. It feels the same way when I took the scream ride at six flags and they drop you 100 feet straight down.

Has this only happened in the present house you are in, or did it happen before you moved there?

Only at my house in Jan 2022.

Do your pets ever look up as if looking at spirits? Do you feel better when you are not in your house?

no

I will take your word for it, but, you have masked it well, SZ is not apparent from what you write about or talk about.

No, I do not think it is SZ.

I was just describing the differences.

The doctor told me SZ was irrational thought that could not be changed with reason.

But the difference is that OCD is irrational but not permanent, But he also told me THC has two parts the hallucinant and the relaxant. The relaxant is what caused the cold spots in my stomach but is was short-acting. When you hallucinate and have OCD it is really bad.

I think the doctor diagnosed me with OCD because I was struggling really hard to fight the effects of the drug. I was rubbing my hands a lot and grabbing my arms and fidgeting.

In ASD is what is used to calm down but also in OCD people cannot stop themselves from doing certain activities. In ASD you stop when you are calm but do not stop when you are OCD. But both together is bad also.

@EndogenousRebel had OCD but I do not know the effects it had on him.

I still need to see my therapist and tell her what happened to me. That will be on Thursday.

Also, I have always had manic and depressed episodes my whole life.

My psychiatrists told me I was detached for a long time.

 

[birdsnestfern]

No, I do not think it is SZ.

I was just describing the differences.

The doctor told me SZ was irrational thought that could not be changed with reason.

Ah, that is good to know. (I just finally learned how to quote something!). Its the reply function, the quote never works for me.
And the Si, I had no idea thats how some people perceive things!

The main sensation I ever feel in my gut is butterflies when I'm about to win on a slot machine, or good sensations when money is coming in. I would walk slowly past a row of slot machines and if the butterfly sensation hit, I'd pull the lever and win every time. (The Mirage was lucky). But I do remember the feeling of dropping on a roller coaster, like the stomach drops. I think everyone has different body parts that intuition speaks to them through. The most common for me are I get a twinge on the upper right scalp near the ear, my lips feel a twitch, my third eye feels tickled, or my hands feel charged and warm.

Ok, that was a good explanation, I understand now, thanks.

 

[scorpiomover]

My neighbor gave me liquid marijuana in a drink with me unknowingly taking it.

I called 911 when I started having effects.

You don't get very trippy from marijuana.

You can, if you've taken LSD before and you get flashbacks on weed.

You can, if it's super-concentrated.

Either you already have been tripping in your life, or you imagined it, or your neighbour roofied you. Either way, be more careful, dude.

 

[Black Rose]

Either you already have been tripping in your life, or you imagined it

I said it was because of the OCD thoughts between what I heard and saw because of the marijuana made my head turn into a liquid of random fear in 2022. When I take marijuana I get fear all over again because my body turns numb.

 

[scorpiomover]

I said it was because of the OCD thoughts between what I heard and saw because of the marijuana made my head turn into a liquid of random fear in 2022. When I take marijuana I get fear all over again because my body turns numb.

Marijuana relaxes the body and the mind, and thus stops you from being completely inhibited, which is why so many people take it.

If you're afraid of being out of control, then you should not be taking drugs like marijuana.

 

[birdsnestfern]

It probably affects people differently, because of different tolerance levels too though.
I have a low tolerance to anything. I did get paranoid also on it, and it made my mind ruminate on unpleasant things mostly, felt out of control on it, so I think it really depends on the person. Even a sip of wine almost puts me to sleep. A glass of wine has me emoting foolishly. I won't let myself have wine at Christmas dinners with family, as I get weird and sensitive to all of the family dynamics and go running home to escape. Dad made his own wine which was delicious, and I wanted to try it, but its just not something I should have.

 

[EndogenousRebel]

I've walked the entire genome. I'm high enough on life and any serum over 3% THC would send me over the moon. I actually have recently done such a potent dose of CBD, and it's extremely bizarre.

This psychological state, if I were to speculate, I believe is similar to states our ancestors would've been in during wars and battles. The line between object and interpretation is erased, almost like every perceivable unit of information is syllogistically defined from some axiomatic precept. Attempts to consciously contradict this precept is usually moot and just irritates the psychic environment in this state.

Almost as if the critic of the mind is not welcome with THC, and that if you struggle against the roller coaster the drug will put you in, you only make your anxieties worse.

I think this low dose can augment meditative states, but only if you are in a very good mood, as the slightest misstep externally and internally can set you down some benign or malignant path and ruin the whole experience.

For me this system of defining conscious realization that nullifies negative thought is to:

1. acknowledge you have realized something.
2. acknowledge that this realization comes from earnest wondering
3. allow yourself to move to the next realization
4. repeat.