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All smokers are old or stupid?

shortbuss

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Thanks for the words of encouragement. I had no idea the e-cigarettes were as effective as you all say. I really need to look into that ASAP. I'm sure I can quit them- I just have to set my mind to it...and buy one of those e-cigs.
 

kantor1003

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Thanks for the words of encouragement. I had no idea the e-cigarettes were as effective as you all say. I really need to look into that ASAP. I'm sure I can quit them- I just have to set my mind to it...and buy one of those e-cigs.

Don't think of it as quitting, rather consider it a healthy alternative :)
I'd advice you to visit ECF, I'm sure they'd be able to help you out. Navigating through all the different products and various set-ups can be a little confusing and overwhelming at first (kind of pv and liquid, whether to go with cartomizers or atomizer, whether to go with low-resistance cartos or attys, or if you should rather invest in a variable voltage device etc.etc.).
 

Hadoblado

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I am addicted to cigarettes, but it had nothing to do with peer pressure. I have major depressive disorder, and I felt, and continue to often feel so shitty that I don't care what I do to myself, and I even admit that I once told myself that I wanted to smoke cigarettes so that I could just die sooner.

I regret my careless decision. I find myself asking friends who smoke why they began smoking when they knew what the consequences were too, and generally they haven't analyzed their decisions the way I have, and so the consensus is basically a unanimous 'i dunno.'

I hope you won't continue to judge smokers so harshly. Everybody hates smokers these days, and we're just people who made a mistake. Personally whenever I smoke I try to find a place where my second hand smoke won't hit anyone, and I'm very conscious of the direction of the wind when I do this. I know I'm not the only smoker to take these things into consideration. I hope you can see that people are only human, and that there are absolutely other reasons besides age or stupidity that can contribute to the decision to start smoking. For me it is that I make careless, stupid decisions because I have a mental disorder that impedes on my ability to make good decisions sometimes.

Besides, isn't our imminent suffering from cancer enough punishment?

It's really a shame that smoking cigarettes is such an awful thing to do to your body, because there is something so comforting about sitting in nature, or driving your car, while smoking a cigarette and listening to music that fits your mood. I feel so at peace. Then again, there is nothing shittier than having just bought a pack of cigarettes, and then going out drinking only to get so drunk that you light up an entire carton in one night before you even realize it...

The title is not an attack, but an oppertunity for smokers to justify their behaviour before I form an opinion of them. It was actually my INTJ housemate who argued the title question with me. I do not think smokers are stupid, but not being a smoker makes it difficult for me to defend their actions.

Good luck with quitting ;)
 

TheFatNorseman

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I do in fact occasionally smoke. Some of the most intelligent people I know smoke and I can with almost complete certainty tell you that none of them were pressured into it. So in my personal and very defensive opinion; No, you don’t have to be stupid to smoke. But why do we smoke? Well, I guess people have different reasons really. Personally I smoke every now and again because it relieves stress. When I sit down with a cigarette between my fingers I feel completely at peace, and for the few minutes it takes me to finish it, the whole world slows down and makes complete sense.

I don’t know why that is, probably because I have in the past been smoking while reasoning with myself and my brain has created some kind of mental anchor. At any rate, I smoke the occasional cigarette because it makes me feel at peace, helps me clear my head and because it stimulates my brain (or at least the familiarity of it puts my brain into a mode in which I think more clearly). For much the same reason I drink.
 
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