AI Sex Robots

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLVOnVsLXqw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ3p8yCDgRY

Posted two videos because one explores the factual side of the topic and the other explores the social and ethical implications thereof.

As you can tell, AI Sex Robots are quite advanced in the present day, and will only be moreso in the future.

Personally, I like the idea of being able to have a lifelike partner without having to worry about her getting pregnant or me catching a disease or us getting all emotionally entangled and eventually heartbroken and embittered with one another.

I can also see how it's sort of creepy though, as the woman in the second video says.

For instance, is it not the case that pornography binges often induce autism-like states in viewers? This would suggest that a good part of what fuels our social interactions and the enthusiasm with which we approach them is sex. How Freudian, no? But in any case, the obvious implication is that people who are already reclusive will be even less motivated to go out and socialize if they can just have sex with their handy robot whenever they feel like, completely circumventing the key phase of relationship-building that is fostering intimacy between two warm-blooded, living, breathing, human beings.

What do you guys and gals think? Would you consider going out and buying one? Any other negative ramifications you foresee that will come about as a result of this advent? Might it turn out to be a force for good?

 

[Hadoblado]

Wait porn causes autism?

Does that mean I can get vaccinated now?

 

[Seteleechete]

I... don't know. Masturbation tool aside, replacing the need for companionship with an adaptable AI is an intriguing concept, Microsoft's AI has already passed the Turing test(or at least gotten close enough) so it shouldn't be too far off into the future.

I guess it could work well until the AI does the one "unreal" thing that just breaks the illusion at which point the heartbreak is all the worse, though I guess such things can be mitigated. On the other hand if the AI gets good enough I could really see it work. Of course you can always argue if the situation is "real" or a "delusion" and I am hesitantly leaning towards the former.

 

[A_Scanner_Darkly]

Wait porn causes autism?

Does that mean I can get vaccinated now?

OMGz! please get vaccinated NOW we need dat HERD IMMUNITY before the EBOLAs and the ZIKAs and the CHIKUNGUNYAs come for our GIBLETS!!!!!1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity

/all I remember from Health 101

 

[Cognisant]

I think it's interesting that I can enjoy watching a woman use a dildo but not a man using an artificial vagina, even if it's evident that he's having a really good time. I mean if watching pornography is like watching any kind of movie I should be empathizing with and projecting myself upon the most relatable protagonist, thinking "by golly screwing that pussy looks like so much fun".

But that's not it at all, rather what I'm keenly attentive to is how much the woman is enjoying it, I get off to how much she's getting into it. Which I think is why there's such a demand for sex dolls to have AI, sex is actually a lot more about giving pleasure than receiving it.

 

[A_Scanner_Darkly]

I think it's interesting that I can enjoy watching a woman use a dildo but not a man using an artificial vagina, even if it's evident that he's having a really good time. I mean if watching pornography is like watching any kind of movie I should be empathizing with and projecting myself upon the most relatable protagonist, thinking "by golly screwing that pussy looks like so much fun".

But that's not it at all, rather what I'm keenly attentive to is how much the woman is enjoying it, I get off to how much she's getting into it. Which I think is why there's such a demand for sex dolls to have AI, sex is actually a lot more about giving pleasure than receiving it.

I jollily agree---so a grand "Congratulations!" to the both of us.

It means we are not sociopathic rapists who would gladly fuck an unconscious person.

Funny thing is...Anna Salter (was it her or someone else?) observes that the aforementioned demographic is not actually callous and unfeeling as per popular belief, but rather paradoxically hypersensitive to the emotions of others---the perversion that has taken root being that instead of feeling joy in response to another's joy, joy is felt in response to the suffering of another. It's all backwards for the sadists, see---but they are not actually unfeeling.

Not sure what this has to do with sex robots anymore...*shrugs*

I suppose, with this advent, the sadists might buy robots to torture, etc., etc. instead of going out and hurting people...but probably not.

But in any case, Robot Civil Rights will probably be an issue not too long after the release of this technology...

 

[Cognisant]

You should read a book called "Nymph: The Singularity" by Jill Killington.

https://www.amazon.com/Nymph-Singularity-J-Lansing-ebook/dp/B004OEKEO0

Some of the robots are specifically designed to be physically and emotionally... durable.

 

[A_Scanner_Darkly]

Sounds pretty schnazzy from the summary and excerpt. Thanks for sharing. Unfortunately, I probably will not get around to reading all of it since I already have a bunch of books stacked on my desk, impatiently waiting...

I bookmarked it though, since it might actually be useful...

 

[QuickTwist]

https://youtu.be/7ciVKIm7bcg

 

[Pyropyro]

Spoiler

 

[Perfectly Normal Beast]

oh look, we’ve finally reached the predictable pitiful pinnacle of human achievement!

hopefully these will serve as a pleasing distraction for many as we teeter on the brink of extinction

 

[A_Scanner_Darkly]

*shrugs* Least I won't die a virgin...

Does it count if I lost it to a robot?

 

[green acid]

How loud is the neighborhood gonna laugh if you obtain one of those things? I spose after a few years it would become a commonplace, and they'll be walking around in public and riding on buses and in cars.

 

[TheManBeyond]

i can imagine how funny it would be to see the creator testing it and being like, mmm maybe needs more fish smell?

 

[EyeSeeCold]

It is inevitable as much as the extinction of males due to cryogenic sperm.

 

[Redfire]

It is inevitable as much as the extinction of males due to cryogenic sperm.

How would that make males extinct? Males would be born from said cryogenic sperm, wouldn't they?

But yeah, sex robots are bound to be developed eventually, and they will get better with time (just like any other technology). It could be a huge business too.

 

[Puffy]

It would creep me out that I was having sex with something whose sole designed purpose of existence was to pleasure me. I'm sure that's some people's thing, but its not mine. There's also the uncanny valley effect to get around. Until the technology is pretty advanced, it could be a potentially upsetting experience to go through.

I know its not sentient, but a strong part of what makes sex so pleasurable is the mutual desire and passion between two people, seeing them respond to pleasure, etc. I don't see how that can be fully simulated with a machine that has no genuine reason to care about you.

I also worry that if men could start getting access to sex from human-looking machines like this whenever they want that it might extend to and start influencing how they interact with real people. I could see people developing a god-complex, knowing they can demand pleasure whenever they want. I know some will argue it will decrease sexual violence (like some argue porn does) but I think there's a potential it could go in the opposite direction. The human form is now literally a commodity to do with what you like; the sexual act is now fully stripped of all its emotional, humane content.

Like PNB said, one of those things that's inevitable and a little disappointing. Hopefully someone does something really cool with it.

 

[QuickTwist]

It would creep me out that I was having sex with something whose sole designed purpose of existence was to pleasure me. I'm sure that's some people's thing, but its not mine. There's also the uncanny valley effect to get around. Until the technology is pretty advanced, it could be a potentially upsetting experience to go through.

I know its not sentient, but a strong part of what makes sex so pleasurable is the mutual desire and passion between two people, seeing them respond to pleasure, etc. I don't see how that can be fully simulated with a machine that has no genuine reason to care about you.

I also worry that if men could start getting access to sex from human-looking machines like this whenever they want that it might extend to and start influencing how they interact with real people. I could see people developing a god-complex, knowing they can demand pleasure whenever they want. I know some will argue it will decrease sexual violence (like some argue porn does) but I think there's a potential it could go in the opposite direction. The human form is now literally a commodity to do with what you like; the sexual act is now fully stripped of all its emotional, humane content.

Like PNB said, one of those things that's inevitable and a little disappointing. Hopefully someone does something really cool with it.

You have nothing to worry about. By the time we have the technology to make a robot sex toy that doesn't induce Uncanny Valley, silicone will be such a valuable commodity that it will never be used for that purpose.

 

[Perfectly Normal Beast]

this thread would be even more disturbing if we were discussing AC sex robots

homework for future thread: everyone rewatch STNG The Measure of a Man

Guinan: Consider that in the history of many worlds, there have always been disposable creatures. They do the dirty work. They do the work that no one else wants to do because it's too difficult or too hazardous. And an army of Datas, all disposable... You don't have to think about their welfare, you don't think about how they feel. Whole generations of disposable people.

Capt. Picard: You're talking about slavery.

Guinan: Oh, I think that's a little harsh.

Capt. Picard: I don't think that's a little harsh, I think that's the truth. But that's a truth that we have obscured behind a... comfortable, easy euphemism: 'Property'! But that's not the issue at all, is it?

Capt. Picard: Now, the decision you reach here today will determine how we will regard this... creation of our genius. It will reveal the kind of a people we are, what he is destined to be; it will reach far beyond this courtroom and this... one android. It could significantly redefine the boundaries of personal liberty and freedom - expanding them for some... savagely curtailing them for others. Are you prepared to condemn him and all who come after him, to servitude and slavery? Your Honor, Starfleet was founded to seek out new life; well, there it sits! - Waiting.

 

[QuickTwist]

this thread would be even more disturbing if we were discussing AC sex robots

I'm more interested in sex robots that have a subconscious. AC is just too easy. Zing!

 

[EyeSeeCold]

How would that make males extinct? Males would be born from said cryogenic sperm, wouldn't they?

But yeah, sex robots are bound to be developed eventually, and they will get better with time (just like any other technology). It could be a huge business too.

I'm thinking down the line women would realize they don't even need males anymore since they'd have fleshy pulsating sexbots, frozen sperm, drones to carry groceries, and all the other advanced technology that would be contemporary at that point. Males would just become a burden, socially and economically, so they would just cull them at birth China style.

Alternatively women keep men around because society regresses into matriarch feudal/anarchist mini societies and males would be selected for warrior and loyalty traits to build armies, and for pleasure servants.

 

[A_Scanner_Darkly]

I'm thinking down the line women would realize they don't even need males anymore since they'd have fleshy pulsating sexbots, frozen sperm, drones to carry groceries, and all the other advanced technology that would be contemporary at that point. Males would just become a burden, socially and economically, so they would just cull them at birth China style.

Thing about the frozen sperm is that half the genes would then be anachronistic, obsolete, not reflective of the evolution women themselves have gone through since the annihilation of males, soon after extracting all the sperm they would ever need, no? More time goes by, more this effect is enhanced.

Imagine we (and by "we" I mean a hypothetical all-female society, because you and I are long dead) were already practicing this today. Females would potentially be fertilizing themselves with the sperm of cavemen.

I would sure as hell not want to fertilize myself with the sperm of cavemen if I were a woman.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Yeah you have a point. Speaking of AI robots and evolution they may be due to succeed the human race if the technology and programming ever becomes so advanced. Perhaps people would upload their consciousness by then / become cyborgs eliminating the need for procreation.

It's pretty weird to imagine robots floating through space hundreds of thousands of years after humans have perished to carry out some immortal mission.