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After watching the golden globes, INTP/Nai'zyy candidates, whatcha think pod'lair?

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I believe these guys to be INTP: Christoph Waltz, Daniel Day-Lewis, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, any pod'lair experts wanna type them or have them on your shardy shine list already?

edit: oh and Jimmy Fallon also, I might add more soon...
 

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I'm not sure which is more offensive - the Pod'Lair or Golden Globe reference. :D
 

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@Ink - It would be best to post that comment/query on their channels. This site really isn't supposed to be a platform for dialogue between them. The moderators have stretched their patience to their limit already.
 

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^ I understand, they seem to be the most enthusiastic about typing people which is why I directed the question at them though

edit: I guess it's Zai'nyy also anyways...
 
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^ I understand, they seem to be the most enthusiastic about typing people which is why I directed the question at them though

edit: I guess it's Zai'nyy also anyways...

This is not "Pod'Lair community support". If you want to get a response (given lyra has decided not to waste time here), then you should contact us through one of the PL channels/videos.
 

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This is not "Pod'Lair community support". If you want to get a response (given lyra has decided not to waste time here), then you should contact us through one of the PL channels/videos.

So you are saying if you'd reply it would only be seen as a service to me? I am not as impressed by PLs typing abilities as it may seem, I just got the impression there are a bunch of people there who enjoy typing people so much they do 50 new ones a week, do contests etc...
 

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I believe these guys to be INTP: Christoph Waltz, Daniel Day-Lewis, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, any pod'lair experts wanna type them or have them on your shardy shine list already?

edit: oh and Jimmy Fallon also, I might add more soon...

Pod'Lair reads Daniel Day-Lewis and Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Nai'Xyy (INFJ correlate.)
Link: http://www.podlair.com/images/Naixyy%20Males.pdf

Can't remember what they read Christoph Waltz as, and can't find the link at the moment.
 

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@wonkavision are you part of Pod'Lair? Do you agree with those typings? There are so many people on that list I disagree with, too many to know where to start...
 

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@wonkavision are you part of Pod'Lair? Do you agree with those typings? There are so many people on that list I disagree with, too many to know where to start...

No. I'm not in any way affiliated with Pod'Lair, except that they did a reading of me, and that I think they're really onto something.

I don't know enough about Mojo reading or the physiological cues to agree or disagree with the readings.

I suspect they have gotten some wrong, but my gut tells me they get most of them right.


By the way, I'm not sure, but I think you made a mistake in the title of this thread.

Nai'Zyy is the INTJ correlate, not INTP.

Zai'Nyy would be the INTP correlate.
 

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I believe these guys to be INTP: Christoph Waltz, Daniel Day-Lewis, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, any pod'lair experts wanna type them or have them on your shardy shine list already?

edit: oh and Jimmy Fallon also, I might add more soon...

How did you arrive at that conclusion? INTP is one of the first types I'd rule out for those guys, doesnt fit any of their bills :S
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKh_XFJ9TWc

Isn't the Ne humor very obvious here? Id type Meryl Streep as INFJ, would you guys disagree there also?

and here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeXI8J-Y03U&NR=1&feature=endscreen

Yeah I think it is, I see it as being paired with Fi though, his philosophy of speechmaking sounds very much like an Ne/Fi philosophy, improvise and be genuine! And even if you stutter and its a horrible speech technically its still much better than a preprepared one and basically the same thing, ie he sees the individual behind the words.

Plus you can just feel the genuine Fi joy he's feeling at the moment.
 

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Yeah I would. I think celebritytypes got her just right as an ESTP. She seems to emmanate Fe sometimes, but is far to inconsistent with it. She's also pretty stupid, but still a great actress, she just soaks up the environment with her Se.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trHXGX9IF5E

Here with ESTP Ellen, she doesn't seem stupid to me, the contrary actually... She seems really uncomfortable with Se, as if it was her inferior function... Still a very well-balanced person. When they play the game her quick Ni perceiving becomes very obvious as well

People seem to have big trouble typing well-balanced/well-adjusted people, often typing them as strong users of their inferior functions... Fitting people into behavioural stereotypes without looking closer how the individual really processes stuff

edit: and on ellen being ESTP, here with ENTP matthew perry (he fits into the stereotype pretty well so I think not too many will disagree here), the Ne and Se humor is contrasted very well here: edit2:all of the clips with him on ellen this occasion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgIxD7IaOjM
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trHXGX9IF5E

Here with ESTP Ellen, she doesn't seem stupid to me, the contrary actually... She seems really uncomfortable with Se, as if it was her inferior function... Still a very well-balanced person. When they play the game her quick Ni perceiving becomes very obvious as well

People seem to have big trouble typing well-balanced/well-adjusted people, often typing them as strong users of their inferior functions... Fitting people into behavioural stereotypes without looking closer how the individual really processes stuff

edit: and on ellen being ESTP, here with ENTP matthew perry (he fits into the stereotype pretty well so I think not too many will disagree here), the Ne and Se humor is contrasted very well here: edit2:all of the clips with him on ellen this occasion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgIxD7IaOjM

I disagree, I see Ellen as being an ENFP or possibly ESFP, but blergh shouldn't dwelve into that now.

Meryl is very intelligent in the way she is able to completely immerse herself in the moment and what it has to offer and what it expects from her, if she's expected to act deep, she will act as if though she was expected to be deep, the woman IS an actress after all, and a skilled one at that, its when you start analyzing what she's actually said in detail instead of taking in the impression of her persona that you realize its more or less a front, she doesnt know what the fuck she's doing, she just does it. She is no system building INFJ, conversations with her are lively but generally shallow and she lacks a systematic understanding of the world, hers being spontaneous. I'm gonna use Celebrity types quote of her (she is asked why art is important):

“Every time I think it’s a silly way to spend my life, I see a performance by another actor and think, ‘I couldn’t live if I didn’t have this in my life.’ I really think that. Or a piece of music. We need art. We really need art. Maybe we need to feel we count, like our existence matters. Acting can do that; it can make you feel more alive and proud to be a human being. Even seeing the worst of humanity.”

So many words for so little.

Also Ni isn't really "quick" its an introverted percieving function that operates behind the scenes relying on "quick" Se impressions. Ie any intuition by definition must follow after a sensing.

Ni is only quicker than Se in forming a complex holistic understanding of a situation, not in picking up on the vibe and going along with the flow instantenously, thats what Meryl does and thats Se.
 

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I disagree, I see Ellen as being an ENFP or possibly ESFP, but blergh shouldn't dwelve into that now.

Meryl is very intelligent in the way she is able to completely immerse herself in the moment and what it has to offer and what it expects from her, if she's expected to act deep, she will act as if though she was expected to be deep, the woman IS an actress after all, and a skilled one at that, its when you start analyzing what she's actually said in detail instead of taking in the impression of her persona that you realize its more or less a front, she doesnt know what the fuck she's doing, she just does it. She is no system building INFJ, conversations with her are lively but generally shallow and she lacks a systematic understanding of the world, hers being spontaneous. I'm gonna use Celebrity types quote of her (she is asked why art is important):

“Every time I think it’s a silly way to spend my life, I see a performance by another actor and think, ‘I couldn’t live if I didn’t have this in my life.’ I really think that. Or a piece of music. We need art. We really need art. Maybe we need to feel we count, like our existence matters. Acting can do that; it can make you feel more alive and proud to be a human being. Even seeing the worst of humanity.”

So many words for so little.

Also Ni isn't really "quick" its an introverted percieving function that operates behind the scenes relying on "quick" Se impressions. Ie any intuition by definition must follow after a sensing.

Ni is only quicker than Se in forming a complex holistic understanding of a situation, not in picking up on the vibe and going along with the flow instantenously, thats what Meryl does and thats Se.

Are you saying she is as much in the moment as ellen there? Doesn't seem close to my eyes...

Every time I think it’s a silly way to spend my life, I see a performance by another actor and think, ‘I couldn’t live if I didn’t have this in my life.’ I really think that. Or a piece of music. We need art. We really need art. Maybe we need to feel we count, like our existence matters. Acting can do that; it can make you feel more alive and proud to be a human being. Even seeing the worst of humanity.

Everyone uses their functions differently, there are very many people who have developed a "fetish" for their inferior function.
 

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Ok, after watching the Lemony Snickets movie I agree that Meryl is an ESTP... (And how I wish I had an INFJ sister growing up, anyone else saw that movie?)
 
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