Addictive personality

[SLushhYYY]

I think ive finally figured out the reasoning behind addictive personalities. As an intuitive thinker, my 'gut feeling' intuitive beliefs far outweigh the beliefs of my frontal cortex. I can think as much as I want about ending a certain addiction, but usually nothing changes because my intuitive instincts fail to see any negative aspects of the addiction. The goal is to reprogram your intuition on those topics, or at least acknowledge the fact that thinking about ending an addiction usually just leads to nothing but thinking.

Just a little rant about something I've seemingly figured out, I'll see how it goes from here...

 

[Duxwing]

I think ive finally figured out the reasoning behind addictive personalities. As an intuitive thinker, my 'gut feeling' intuitive beliefs far outweigh the beliefs of my frontal cortex. I can think as much as I want about ending a certain addiction, but usually nothing changes because my intuitive instincts fail to see any negative aspects of the addiction. The goal is to reprogram your intuition on those topics, or at least acknowledge the fact that thinking about ending an addiction usually just leads to nothing but thinking.

Just a little rant about something I've seemingly figured out, I'll see how it goes from here...

Interesting, I could see how an ill-programmed intuition can hold one back.

-Duxwing

 

[Proletar]

What exactly do you mean, Slush? What kind of intuition? How?


Duxwing just pretended to get it to seem clever...

 

[Duxwing]

What exactly do you mean, Slush? What kind of intuition? How?


Duxwing just pretended to get it to seem clever...

I most certainly didn't, that's insulting. Would you like to hear why I think so?

-Duxwing

 

[Proletar]

I most certainly didn't, that's insulting. Would you like to hear why I think so?

-Duxwing

I'm sorry, I didn't mean what I wrote seriously, and I absolutely didn't mean to insult you. I just didn't get the OP and my own demented sense of clever humour told me to angle the matter in a way that wouldn't make me appear as stupid - and in turn calling everyone else stupid.

But sure, for the sake of argument. If not getting too off topic, do tell why, either here or otherwise on my wall.

 

[Duxwing]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean what I wrote seriously, and I absolutely didn't mean to insult you. I just didn't get the OP and my own demented sense of clever humour told me to angle the matter in a way that wouldn't make me appear as stupid - and in turn calling everyone else stupid.

But sure, for the sake of argument. If not getting too off topic, do tell why, either here or otherwise on my wall.

Ah, OK, I guess we won't need these *puts pistols and rapiers away*.

All is forgiven, though. I should have seen your post as tongue in cheek and not responded in such a knee-jerk way. *feels sad and guilty* *hugs* I'm sorry for being so grumpy, but might I recommend adding " " after humorous posts?

Anyway, sure, I'd be glad to tell you why I think one's intuition can perpetuate addiction. My idea is that an intuitive person needs to 'reprogram' themselves in response to new information because otherwise, their intuition, which acts as a filter, will be skewed. Hence, one's intuition can ramp up addictive behavior by processing information in a way biased toward remaining addicted so effectively that one no longer sees the danger in staying so.

-Duxwing

 

[SLushhYYY]

Personally, I live very much accordingly to my own intuition, almost all my decisions are based off intuition. But at the same time I can think of many, many alternatives to a particular decision I make whether it be addiction, or what I should eat. The intuition that forces individuals to indulge in a situation is not a thoughtful decision maker, since it already knows. Thoughts are sporadic. When it comes down to a decision, my logical self will ultimately choose what I should do, whether or not there may be some negative aspects to a particular situation if my logical self deems it necessary, and insignificant as a problem.

I'm perfectly capable of changing my mind and making decisions based on what my mind thinks, but the intuitive rejection makes the situation not "as comfortable as it could be". I might just be babbling but this was a response to my constant will to smoke marijuana although it is not physically addictive, my intuitive reasoning claims that marijuana doesnt do anything bad for me, it gives me my dopamine, my acetylcholine and establishes a perfect environment to allow me to be an INTP. But at the same time, Im completely aware that the smoking is very negative in my day to day life and that I need to stop. My intuition tells my brain to shut the fuck up, and there we go again in a loop.

Im starting to recognize this interaction between minds on a daily basis so Ive been putting a greater effort in trying to get my frontal cortex to sway the mind of intuition so I just got to wait and see.

This makes me sound like a feeler.

 

[Proletar]

*Alright then. Im back on track.


I would say that different stages of addiction undermine different functions.

Take a long time amphetamine-addict for one. Why does he take his two fixes each day? Because of a need to feel well (Fe)? I think not, at least not foremost. Long term addictions are often related to Si, I would say. The same function that gives us routine, that tells us to brush our teeth each night or how to peel a potato also makes sure the person with the habit keeps it up. In the case of an addict, it keeps him constantly reminded what his drug feels like and what it tastes like, or the sensation of past times injested. Compare your first ginger-bread on christmas morning when you were little (or whatever) and last saturday, when you sat by your computer and just poured sugar into your system without really even tasting it. Same drug, very different circumstances. You didn't seriously feel well a couple of hours into the second scenario, did you?

Tricky and sneaky as addictions are, they keep us from the truth and ourselves. At first, sure, I would say it's about functions like Ne and Ti. Questioning the establishment and being curious about new things. Then Fe pulls us in when we actually try, granting us chemical joy of some sort. Time goes by and voilá - on to the memory-functions (Si or Ni) as habits. That's really the difference between users and addicts if you ask me (Be it exercise or heroin). Interest or habit?

So I would say Slush is right. To break free from addiction is to reprogram your memory-function. You are still free to observe whilst doing so, but how much are the observations really worth without a healthy observer? Don't break your functions, but develop your less developed ones. Si is meant to make us care for ourselves, you know.


@Duxwing: I tend to use very few emoticons, because I tend to be very clear about sarcasm and ironies myself. They make everything overly obvious for me. In my defense though, I did write three dots, and that's probably as far as I'm willing to go... *Draws revolver from holster and points at Duxwing*

 

[SLushhYYY]

*Alright then. Im back on track.


I would say that different stages of addiction undermine different functions.

Take a long time amphetamine-addict for one. Why does he take his two fixes each day? Because of a need to feel well (Fe)? I think not, at least not foremost. Long term addictions are often related to Si, I would say. The same function that gives us routine, that tells us to brush our teeth each night or how to peel a potato also makes sure the person with the habit keeps it up. In the case of an addict, it keeps him constantly reminded what his drug feels like and what it tastes like, or the sensation of past times injested. Compare your first ginger-bread on christmas morning when you were little (or whatever) and last saturday, when you sat by your computer and just poured sugar into your system without really even tasting it. Same drug, very different circumstances. You didn't seriously feel well a couple of hours into the second scenario, did you?

Tricky and sneaky as addictions are, they keep us from the truth and ourselves. At first, sure, I would say it's about functions like Ne and Ti. Questioning the establishment and being curious about new things. Then Fe pulls us in when we actually try, granting us chemical joy of some sort. Time goes by and voilá - on to the memory-functions (Si or Ni) as habits. That's really the difference between users and addicts if you ask me (Be it exercise or heroin). Interest or habit?

So I would say Slush is right. To break free from addiction is to reprogram your memory-function. You are still free to observe whilst doing so, but how much are the observations really worth without a healthy observer? Don't break your functions, but develop your less developed ones. Si is meant to make us care for ourselves, you know.


@Duxwing: I tend to use very few emoticons, because I tend to be very clear about sarcasm and ironies myself. They make everything overly obvious for me. In my defense though, I did write three dots, and that's probably as far as I'm willing to go... *Draws revolver from holster and points at Duxwing*

Thanks for describing the process, it angers me knowing that ive fallen into a predetermined process so ignorantly. That is exactly why a user usually always fills the void of an addiction with something else, whether it be for good or bad.