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3 INTJs - Letterman, Hoffman, De Niro

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Just a cool and sort of weird interview I found: David Letterman - Robert DeNiro & Dustin Hoffman - YouTube

Didn't know where to put it, but thought others might be interested to watch a concentration of the same type interacting.

(Types are based on pod'lair readings.)

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Dammit, I want to change the thread title to something like 'Post Videos of Same-Type interactions'.
 

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Dunno. Just thought it was a cool interview. Actually it's the individuals that I found interesting. The old and dignified majesty. Heh.
 

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Don't know if they're actually INTJ, but that was pretty fun to watch.
 

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I am pretty certain Letterman is ESTJ and Hoffman is INTP.
 

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Letterman is I think a ISTJ, but he seems extroverted, so he might be a ESTJ.
I think Hoffman is INTJ.
 

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Why are they INTJs? Seriously dude why the hell would an extrovert like Letterman be one? ENTP seems more likely for him. De Niro is too concrete and levelheaded (ISTJ? ISFJ?). Hoffman seems more like a P.

Oh wait Pod'lair readings.. Right. Get the fuck real and realize that Pod'Lair sucks and have gone for quality over quantity trying to impress people with their wast lists of typings. All they've done is take an original and interesting starting point and plunged it into the depths of the worst type of pseudo-soft-science bullshit.

That a forum of NT's are intrigued and lose their typical clarity is interesting in the weak points it reveals in such psyches however.

But seriously get real. Oh well OP is probs old but I dun care.
 

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I dunno if they're INTJs. It was just an interesting speculative starting point. To be fair, I should've been clearer about that/clearer that the claims were knowingly dubious.

Though on Letterman - he doesn't seem extroverted to me. He seems fairly wrapped up in his head. Certainly wouldn't rule introversion out - social introversion anyway. Don't know Hoffman well enough - but De Niro's "concrete" vibe could be somewhat related to culture/ethnicity I think.

And hey, how do you know this actually *is* a forum of NTs? Maybe all/most of the people who've taken a genuine interest in stuff like pod'lair aren't, in which case that interest would reveal nothing about NT psyche weak points. (Most of the posts I've seen here about podlair have been pretty scathing anyway.)

The interview's interesting though! 3 old lions basking together. De Niro is massively uncomfortable too, iirc.
 

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I doubt an introvert could be a talk show host with as tight a schedule like his for as long as he has and still obviously enjoy it.

I can't say that much about the other two though. Admittedly I don't know them that well. But neither appear to be INTJs as far as I can see.

Now about the forum: yes anything is possible, but some things are likely while others are not. People still gather up and watch Auburn's magical displays and Pod'Lair typing's are cited every now and then as if they were proper sources while the most prominent site when it comes to typings (celebritytypes.com) is trashed because people think they got some people wrong despite the fact that their admins are able to and willing to argue their cases with logic. It doesn't matter if NF's commit to the same faults. NT's desire logic yet fall prey to baits that are easily torn apart if you examine them closer. That NFs are less concerned with logic than NTs is true, how is it then that NT's swallow the pod'lair bull just as much?

For the record the video is unavailable in my country :D
 

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It's likely unavailable any more. It's not available in my country and I happen to share one with the OP :P
 

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I can see it, Hado.
 

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I dunno if they're INTJs. It was just an interesting speculative starting point. To be fair, I should've been clearer about that/clearer that the claims were knowingly dubious.

Though on Letterman - he doesn't seem extroverted to me. He seems fairly wrapped up in his head. Certainly wouldn't rule introversion out - social introversion anyway. Don't know Hoffman well enough - but De Niro's "concrete" vibe could be somewhat related to culture/ethnicity I think.

I did find it interesting, and I think in general Hoffman's a "warmer" actor than De Niro. Nothing wrong with that... but I usually feel like I get more of the actual Hoffman when he plays a movie role even if he's really good at switching up characters, whereas DeNiro? I have no clue who this guy is, even after watching a TON of his movies. He really just drops into his character.

Watching the interview, Hoffman plays the more sociable interface for the two of them (Letterman and Hoffman even play into it), and it only reinforces my idea that DeNiro is actually a pretty private individual. Not someone who hates people, but he really doesn't seem to get as much into revealing much of his private exterior/interior life to the public. And definitely not someone who "wants to be a celebrity." Hoffman seems like he more naturally WANTS to make a connection with the audience, he's more engaging in a warmer way without much effort.

And yeah, I always got a more concrete feel to DeNiro -- kinda gritty, kinda tangible, you can get your hands on it. Not high-brow ethereal-type acting.
 

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I did find it interesting, and I think in general Hoffman's a "warmer" actor than De Niro. Nothing wrong with that... but I usually feel like I get more of the actual Hoffman when he plays a movie role even if he's really good at switching up characters,
Dustin Hoffman usually plays a character who usually adjusts to what other people want to do, is very quirky, and occasionally says that an idea that others want to do is just going to cause problems, and better avoided, like his role in "Family Business", where Matthew Broderick and Sean Connery want to do a robbery, but he thinks that it's too dangerous. Hoffman is very much a P.

Hoffman seems like he more naturally WANTS to make a connection with the audience, he's more engaging in a warmer way without much effort.
He's not that big the scientific details in science roles. In "Sphere", he's much more about the psychological implications. He could be an FP. Or, he could be using Fe, and is a TP who prefers acting.

whereas DeNiro? I have no clue who this guy is, even after watching a TON of his movies. He really just drops into his character.

it only reinforces my idea that DeNiro is actually a pretty private individual. Not someone who hates people, but he really doesn't seem to get as much into revealing much of his private exterior/interior life to the public. And definitely not someone who "wants to be a celebrity."

And yeah, I always got a more concrete feel to DeNiro -- kinda gritty, kinda tangible, you can get your hands on it. Not high-brow ethereal-type acting.
There is a strong consistency in the personality and behaviour of Robert De Niro's characters. He's definitely an introvert. His characters have specific things or people they care about deeply. So I'm going with Fi. However, he acts as if he finds it hard to express his feelings. So I'm going with TJ. So that's IxTJ. He's NOT an ISTJ. He always goes off the beaten path. So I'm guessing INTJ.
 
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