Übermensch

[Ex-User (8886)]

Recently I was in next deep depresion and boredom also. I found interesting idea: Übermensch.

has huge willpower
isn't limited by any norms
is courageous
indywidual
constantly defeats himself
can control his needs and emotions
is god for himself
creative
every moment in his life is worth repetition
lives out of categories as good and evil
lives in realistic world, not in the imagined like religions create

theese are characterisctics I've already found, but I'm still looking for more and thinking

I think becoming Übermensch is the most interesting thing, what you can do on the Earth.

What do you think about Übermensch?

 

[Cognisant]

Before enlightenment, chop wood and boil water.
After enlightenment, chop wood and boil water.

Knowing existential nihilism and overcoming it by realising any meaning you choose to create is infinitely superior to nihilism insofar as something can be measured is all well and good, but all in all it doesn't really change anything, being an Übermensch doesn't make you a better man.

More content, perhaps.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

It doesn't matter, it is a label, another trap for your cognition.

You are not what you want to become, you are what you have done with yourself.

You can call yourself an ubermensch any time, it is not that Nietzsche or Schopenhauer were right. Nietzsche had a bitter end of his life. This all talk about overcoming and being above is laughable, things won't go the ubermensch way, things will go the way you manage and carve them to be.

It is not that there are people below, it is just that they have had more or less opportunities in their lives and used them differently.

Showing disrespect for other people ultimately allows for their potential disrespect for the ubermensch, while you are above the masses, the masses shape and control you and rise above you in your every plan, which you could hate to admit.

 

[TimeAsylums]

Recently I was in next deep depresion and boredom also. I found interesting idea: Übermensch.

has huge willpower
isn't limited by any norms
is courageous
indywidual
constantly defeats himself
can control his needs and emotions
is god for himself
creative
every moment in his life is worth repetition
lives out of categories as good and evil
lives in realistic world, not in the imagined like religions create

theese are characterisctics I've already found, but I'm still looking for more and thinking

I think becoming Übermensch is the most interesting thing, what you can do on the Earth.

What do you think about Übermensch?

omg wow such enlightenment

u knw what happens after you reach that lvl of enlightenment
you reach for the next fucking one
what happens when u discovers teh secrets of the universe and the human mind and physics omg?! ur still u

Before enlightenment, chop wood and boil water.
After enlightenment, chop wood and boil water.

^


aww yeah, congratz use got the will to power
...
turn on porn masturbate sleep
ya man ubermensch superman superhuman

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understanding = great, so do it, get on with it then.

 

[TBerg]

Philosophy is psychological compensation for weakness or negativity in energy from real world. Once we realize this, everything becomes frighteningly clear. Philosophy therefore is naval gazing and is a source of narcissistic energy. It will keep us going, but we must realize that this energy is an artificial and not natural.

 

[Pyropyro]

The Übermensch is an infant that was borne from the blood of the dead myths and gods. It's formless and purposeless.

Now, the next step in its growth is to develop WITHOUT the aid of those that it killed. Otherwise, he'll become a paradox since he revived the very gods that he "defeated".

 

[RaBind]

Is becoming an Übermensch even possible? Endurance, hard work, self sacrifice, discipline are all traits to be associated to the Übermensch, but they are parts of a bigger characteristic of the Übermensch. This is the ability to struggle through and overcome obstacles and hardships. The more difficult the path someone walks the more we associate them with being an Übermensch. I think Übermensch itself actually ties into the search for strength actually. Strength being the degree/ability to achieve desired outcomes. Whenever someone sets off to become the strongest, they are working towards becoming the Übermensch. As I said earlier struggling is actually one of the most important aspects of the Übermensch, but if you define Übermensch as the pinnacle of strength (as defined above) then the Übermensch can't be struggling and isn't pinnacle of strength, hence not the Übermensch.

Imo Nihilism is a piece of shit, those who take it seriously shouldn't be taken seriously and by according to survival of the fittest shouldn't be around for too long.

 

[Ex-User (8886)]

Um. Perhaps you understand word Übermensch a little different than me. I already learned concept from Nietzsche, but want to make my own concept, so in my first post I didn't write any name of philosoph. Just want to keep idead of Übermensch.

I noticed, I need purpose to do anything. I don't mean religious purpose, but something which will be important for me. I can't just say I want to learn maths to pass exams, to be programists, because I don't see why I should be this fucking programist.

But if I tell to myself, to learn math because I want to be better than my mates, it's getting sense (but not big enough).

Finally, when I find to become someone in matter of years, it's becoming very interesting and important. I can start learn math, start programing in every moment and I can be the best in many options, so this doesn't motivate me. If I can do something in every moment, why do this now? (yes, procrastination)

If I want to achive greater thing, I know I must start now, in this moment, because life is so short and if I wait, it can be not enought long to fulfill everything I want.

Is becoming an Übermensch even possible?

With transhumanism yes. I would be then postÜbermensch.

being an Übermensch doesn't make you a better man

nothing will make me better man, it's only my whim, like everything we do

It's formless and purposeless

what have purpose then?

Philosophy is psychological compensation for weakness or negativity in energy from real world. Once we realize this, everything becomes frighteningly clear. Philosophy therefore is naval gazing and is a source of narcissistic energy. It will keep us going, but we must realize that this energy is an artificial and not natural.

I know this. I don't like philosophy too, but I like to steal some concepts to make my own ones.

You are not what you want to become, you are what you have done with yourself.

Seems like new religion ;D

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Finally, when I find to become someone in matter of years, it's becoming very interesting and important. I can start learn math, start programing in every moment and I can be the best in many options, so this doesn't motivate me. If I can do something in every moment, why do this now? (yes, procrastination)

Do what you like, if you never liked programming, don't force yourself into that. It is possible to find what you are interested in, it takes time and exploration. You might do all that if you find a motivation, or if you find the desire, or both.

Seems like new religion ;D

You might be interested in some of the Crowley's ideas.
He was mad but seems to have gotten down the motivational process pretty well in terms of suggestions and projecting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Will

I have taken parts of his ideas into my own model.

The context you describe with becoming Uber is not that wrong, because you seek to better yourself and to deal with avolition, you could start to build yourself and value yourself, to be able to safely value and depend on others when you choose to, it seems possible if you really have either the desire or the will, or the desire for will.

 

[The Void]

A true ubermensch makes his own traits own rulez..
I define ubermensch ion mai own way,
I am da ubermensch and my traits = traits of ubermensch. Y? Becoz I say so!
I am the enlightened void master, the ultimate level humanity can ever reach!

 

[sushi]

bill gates, 20 th century ubermensch.

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

I think you are pathologizing Philosophy as a whole,
when really these statements only fit the tiny little crumb of Nietzschean Existentialism.