Its official, I found my type.

[QuickTwist]

I've been on a journey a long time to find my type and I think I have finally found it.

I feel I am in a really good place right now in my life free of a lot of stress and anxiety. I know all too well its really hard to categorize yourself when you are not feeling at your best. Knowing and feeling that I am at my best right now has allowed my to push aside my biases and worries and simply be who I really am.

When I finally found out once and for all what my type was I was relieved and all my worries subsided and I found peace in knowing I do follow a pattern that is identifiable under the MBTI instrument.

I was feeling good about things today - felt I had a very relaxed open and adventurous spirit and was attentive to what I was thinking and feeling. I felt really at peace and something intuitively told me that if I take the MBTI right now, I would finally get to the bottom of what type I am. I listened to that instinct and I had some extra money, so I decided to try and look up a cheap, reliable MBTI measure tool that was official. I found myself looking through various MBTI professionals and tests. The more I thought about it, the more I was sure I wouldn't actually have to talk to anyone to find my type - I just knew that if I took an official test that that would be it. So I found the site https://www.mbtionline.com/. I decided that I would take the test here. For the price of $50 I would finally find closure to what type I am.

I took the test and felt very very good about all the questions I answered except one. There were 93 questions and pretty much all of them felt natural to answer. Then came the time where they gave you a rundown of each of the four letters and their opposite. I had already answered the questions and knew it was going to be close. As they gave the descriptions of each letter, they asked you which one you felt you identified with more. I was careful to read about each of the opposing dichotomies to really get to the root of each letter I would embody. When I got done choosing what letters I thought I was based on the description given, I found myself in a conundrum. I had chosen INTP based on the descriptions of each letter but this was opposed with ISTP based on the way I answered the actual test.

It gave a very brief summary of each type ie. INTP and ISTP. It was at this moment in reading these short little summaries of both types that it became crystal clear which one I was. The most notable thing that caught my eye in the descriptions was that INTPs are prone to create ideas and constructs while ISTPs are more focused on practical problem solving. I knew right away I was someone who was more of a problem solver than someone who creates constructs. I read carefully that it said once I chose which type I was then the results and the info they would give me would be catered to my choice. I thought about it for about 20 seconds and finally chose ISTP. And that's how my choice became final once and for all.

After reading the one word adjectives that describe the ISTP I knew I had made the right choice.

 

[Architect]

Congratulations, it's powerful knowing your type as you can use it as a tool to help you make decisions, and separate out what you really think versus what you picked up from others.

INTP's/ISTP's are not much different in many ways. The main thing being ISTP's typically respond to life through action, and INTP's will be more prone to respond by thinking. Which is interesting since they both have dominant Ti. An example of this is that nearly all of the many ISTP's in my life seem to internally roll their eyes when I go off on one of my analytical tangents. For example, we'll be talking about some engineering matter, and they have little interest in my speculative analysis of the problem. I have to do that to get to the solution; I have to understand it in the greater context, and plus it's just fun to overanalyze it in this way. The ISTP's seem to be thinking "but what is the point?" They'll too want to know the reasons behind the problem (or whatever is being discussed), but for them it seems to need to be tied to action. This makes sense given the Se they have as auxiliary.

So they're much more parsimonious with their skills than I am, I'll happily waste time analyzing and thinking about anything, but for them it needs to be tied to a practical issue they have. I've seen it many times where I'm happily relating all the related aspects and nuances of the issue, and the'll just throw up their hands and say something like "Well let's just do it".

ISTP's are great for practical analysis, much of engineering/STEM is carried on their shoulders.

 

[QuickTwist]

Congratulations, it's powerful knowing your type as you can use it as a tool to help you make decisions, and separate out what you really think versus what you picked up from others.

INTP's/ISTP's are not much different in many ways. The main thing being ISTP's typically respond to life through action, and INTP's will be more prone to respond by thinking. Which is interesting since they both have dominant Ti. An example of this is that nearly all of the many ISTP's in my life seem to internally roll their eyes when I go off on one of my analytical tangents. For example, we'll be talking about some engineering matter, and they have little interest in my speculative analysis of the problem. I have to do that to get to the solution; I have to understand it in the greater context, and plus it's just fun to overanalyze it in this way. The ISTP's seem to be thinking "but what is the point?" They'll too want to know the reasons behind the problem (or whatever is being discussed), but for them it seems to need to be tied to action. This makes sense given the Se they have as auxiliary.

So they're much more parsimonious with their skills than I am, I'll happily waste time analyzing and thinking about anything, but for them it needs to be tied to a practical issue they have. I've seen it many times where I'm happily relating all the related aspects and nuances of the issue, and the'll just throw up their hands and say something like "Well let's just do it".

ISTP's are great for practical analysis, much of engineering/STEM is carried on their shoulders.

I know exactly what you are talking about. All too often I find myself getting a book that I never finish, or come across a thread I stop following because a lot of the time, these things just don't seem to hold my interest. Then there are things (even theoretical) where I can pay attention to these things for a long time because I feel they are relevant (to me) and can help solve problems. So I think one difference I am seeing here between INTPs and ISTPs is that the INTP doesn't care as much what the subject matter is, they are just happy to learn about something new and think about it in depth, whereas the ISTP must have a stake in the subject matter. If it is not within my goals then its likely not going to get much attention. And to that end, my goals are something that change pretty frequently. There is not much room to just sit and think indefinitely when there is something to accomplish. That said, I do need my time to myself and time to recharge the batteries. I like to think about it like this: I will do something very strenuous for a short amount of time, and then when that task is complete I will just be content to just think (often about the next thing I want to do). One thing I have found that I really like doing that perfectly mirrors this is weightlifting. Essentially, the process goes the same way. I put a ton of effort into doing something for about and hour and a half and then the body rests for the next 48 hours until the next time I work out. But to a large degree, its the Se that drives, the motivating factor to let Ti work with the immediate and tangible.

 

[Architect]

So I think one difference I am seeing here between INTPs and ISTPs is that the INTP doesn't care as much what the subject matter is, they are just happy to learn about something new and think about it in depth, whereas the ISTP must have a stake in the subject matter.

Exactly. But INTP's do have a kind of version of that in that they tend to be monocular. Especially when younger they'll typically have very well defined interests and not give a hang about anything else. As they get older their interests will usually broaden, whereas for ISTP's I don't see that happen at all.

Example is my INTP EE friend, born on the other side of the planet within a year of me. We both have very well defined interests - I'm into software with a music hobby, he's into EE with an old electronics hobby. But here are some recent discussions we've had

• How to build a harpsichord
• Where did the rednecks come from? Surely they didn't land here like that from Europe.
• The stupidities of handicapped laws in California (and the foolish things businesses have to do to comply, with examples)
• The rules governing how people end up in their stations in life
• ...

I'd never have those conversations with one of my ISTP's!

If it is not within my goals then its likely not going to get much attention. And to that end, my goals are something that change pretty frequently. There is not much room to just sit and think indefinitely when there is something to accomplish. That said, I do need my time to myself and time to recharge the batteries. I like to think about it like this: I will do something very strenuous for a short amount of time, and then when that task is complete I will just be content to just think (often about the next thing I want to do). One thing I have found that I really like doing that perfectly mirrors this is weightlifting. Essentially, the process goes the same way. I put a ton of effort into doing something for about and hour and a half and then the body rests for the next 48 hours until the next time I work out. But to a large degree, its the Se that drives, the motivating factor to let Ti work with the immediate and tangible.

Sounds right.

 

[QuickTwist]

What is EE?

In any case, it just seems like INTPs are more well learnt on a variety of subjects, not just those having to do with practical application. How to build a harpsichord is a good example of this. I don't think I would ever talk to someone about that unless for some strange reason it was brought up. I don't even know if I know what that is. I think its a musical instrument, but not sure.

I have found myself wanting to fidget with things today, but can't find anything that needs fidgeting. I did get a cool little toy in the mail today though. It measures your body fat percentage and muscle quality. I must have used that thing about 10 times by now. I guess that's what boredom does to ISTPs.

 

[Architect]

Electrical Engineering.

Re: Harpsichord - that was an interesting discussion. We went into the history of the harpsichord, clavichord to forte-piano, the differences between the instruments technically and musically. Other weird little things ... I'll be sitting in a restaurant, my wife will ask what I'm thinking and it'll be about how some thing (a plate or something) is manufactured. I'll be figureing that out, like if I was going to produce plates like that, how would I do it? I found my friend, and also a INTP guy interviewed by Dr Mike/NF Geeks all do the same thing. ISTP's don't seem to do that, they are more accepting of what is, a-la Se.

 

[QuickTwist]

Electrical Engineering.

Re: Harpsichord - that was an interesting discussion. We went into the history of the harpsichord, clavichord to forte-piano, the differences between the instruments technically and musically.

Yeah, doesn't sound like something I would go out of my way to talk about. I just kinda think "how much can you talk about an instrument that is not at all what is considered mainstream?"

Other weird little things ... I'll be sitting in a restaurant, my wife will ask what I'm thinking and it'll be about how some thing (a plate or something) is manufactured. I'll be figureing that out, like if I was going to produce plates like that, how would I do it? I found my friend, and also a INTP guy interviewed by Dr Mike/NF Geeks all do the same thing. ISTP's don't seem to do that, they are more accepting of what is, a-la Se.

Its not often that I think about that kind of thing, but it does happen, but really only mostly when I am bored to tears. I typically need some sort of input from something to give it some thought. I just do not have it in me to "think up" stuff. I'm no genius, but I'm not dumb either. I just need something to work with before I start thinking about something. Input before ingenuity.

Seems like you've been at this thing for quite a while - getting to know other INTP's that is. Is it difficult to find these people? I'll admit, most of my life has been spent without people in my life I can really connect with. It must be a pretty great experience when you find people who are so like minded as yourself.

 

[Architect]

Seems like you've been at this thing for quite a while - getting to know other INTP's that is. Is it difficult to find these people?

Wasn't me - it was (nearly) all my wife's doing. She's an INTP groupie, she collects them. Before me her best friend was a lesbian INTP (they're still friends though she's moved out of state). Then she found me, then gave me an INTP son, and she's collected other INTP friends through life. She has a sense about them, there was a quiet nerdy guy working at the library who is now our old friend, who is (of course) an INTP. The only one I found was my EE friend at work and actually he was more the initiator of our friendship than me. I find INTP friends kind of annoying frankly, I see all the shitty stuff I do in a mirror.

Finding intuitives is kind of like seeing positrons - you don't see them directly as an intuitive, but as an absence or a blank spot in the Sensing sea around them.

 

[QuickTwist]

Wasn't me - it was (nearly) all my wife's doing. She's an INTP groupie, she collects them. Before me her best friend was a lesbian INTP (they're still friends though she's moved out of state). Then she found me, then gave me an INTP son, and she's collected other INTP friends through life. She has a sense about them, there was a quiet nerdy guy working at the library who is now our old friend, who is (of course) an INTP. The only one I found was my EE friend at work and actually he was more the initiator of our friendship than me. I find INTP friends kind of annoying frankly, I see all the shitty stuff I do in a mirror.

Finding intuitives is kind of like seeing positrons - you don't see them directly as an intuitive, but as an absence or a blank spot in the Sensing sea around them.

That's actually pretty comical. The INTP collector. If someone didn't know what an INTP was then it could be one of those novels that is forever on the peripheral of the SJs, lol.

But in all seriousness, that is actually quite interesting. You wife I mean. Its really quite an interesting trait to have. I guess things like that go with the territory of being INFJ.

If its not the INTPs that you feel connected to (not sure how this works for an INTP), then is it the INFJ's who you find most interesting? I mean, you married on after all.

 

[Architect]

No I enjoy my INTP friends, I just get annoyed when they make some stupid mistake that I make/have made. There's a great ease with other INTP's, so much doesn't need to be said because you both understand things similarly. But with an INFJ (at least my sample) it's much more, there's mystery I don't have with similar types.

 

[QuickTwist]

Some notes:

I think it was actually you, Architect that first typed me as ISTP seen here.

But it wasn't really until I read what AK said and watched the video in this post that I started to really thing it was a viable type for me.

It really is something once you know what type you are. I find most of the descriptions fit me to a T. That said, I think I am at the age where my Ni might start to play a part in my life. I am much more concerned about my future being one example. I also realize that I have started to think more about humanity as a whole and what the future holds for our race and what is more "optimal" for us as humans.

 

[redbaron]

Yer me 2.

 

[Architect]

I think it was actually you, Architect that first typed me as ISTP seen here. .

Yeah lots of ISTPs haunt the INTP discussion groups IMO*. Which is interesting, none of the ISTP's I know irl would be caught dead around here. Little self reflection and interest in anything so oddball (to their mind). It's an ongoing research topic of mine which is why some S dominants are able to break through their upper stack to integrate better with their intuition, and others not. I'd guess upbringing but don't have any firm ideas about this.

* The oil and water separates out in the discussion topics, the INTP's will go off into the weeds on some long point or another (usually philosophical), and the ISTP's will usually stick to more quotidian discussions.

 

[redbaron]

Yeah lots of ISTPs haunt the INTP discussion groups IMO*. Which is interesting, none of the ISTP's I know irl would be caught dead around here. Little self reflection and interest in anything so oddball (to their mind). It's an ongoing research topic of mine which is why some S dominants are able to break through their upper stack to integrate better with their intuition, and others not. I'd guess upbringing but don't have any firm ideas about this.

* The oil and water separates out in the discussion topics, the INTP's will go off into the weeds on some long point or another (usually philosophical), and the ISTP's will usually stick to more quotidian discussions.

Yeah everyone here fluffs on about really dumb stuff while I'm busy dishing out reality and receiving the type of angsty backlash normally reserved for parents by distressed teenagers.

2real4u

 

[QuickTwist]

Yeah lots of ISTPs haunt the INTP discussion groups IMO*. Which is interesting, none of the ISTP's I know irl would be caught dead around here. Little self reflection and interest in anything so oddball (to their mind). It's an ongoing research topic of mine which is why some S dominants are able to break through their upper stack to integrate better with their intuition, and others not. I'd guess upbringing but don't have any firm ideas about this.

* The oil and water separates out in the discussion topics, the INTP's will go off into the weeds on some long point or another (usually philosophical), and the ISTP's will usually stick to more quotidian discussions.

Interesting that you mention upbringing. I had an influx of many changes in my household growing up. Whether that be my creative and imaginary mother never quite doing things a set way or my father whose temperamental attitude you could never predict was prolly in large part a source of me being forced to use my intuition at a young age. So many things to me didn't makes sense to a child who could not at all logically conclude so much variance in the household. Likely it was also because there was little threat to my life growing up. With variance and safety, I think this could be the sort of thing that leads a dominant thinking ISTP to start using their intuition to better reliability.

 

[cheese]

Interesting that you mention upbringing. I had an influx of many changes in my household growing up. Whether that be my creative and imaginary mother never quite doing things a set way or my father whose temperamental attitude you could never predict was prolly in large part a source of me being forced to use my intuition at a young age. So many things to me didn't makes sense to a child who could not at all logically conclude so much variance in the household. Likely it was also because there was little threat to my life growing up. With variance and safety, I think this could be the sort of thing that leads a dominant thinking ISTP to start using their intuition to better reliability.

Your mother was imaginary?

 

[QuickTwist]

Your mother was imaginary?

I thought about that, but didn't care to change my wording. I meant to say she has characteristics of having an active imagination.

 

[PmjPmj]

Excellent news, sir. I am glad you have solved the puzzle. As an aside, I tend to get along with ISTPs very well. I have known a few in my time.

Oh, and Architect does indeed know his shit. He had me as an xNTJ long before I saw that as a possibility.

 

[QuickTwist]

Excellent news, sir. I am glad you have solved the puzzle. As an aside, I tend to get along with ISTPs very well. I have known a few in my time.

Oh, and Architect does indeed know his shit. He had me as an xNTJ long before I saw that as a possibility.

yeah, I think part of it might be because you do things with a good amount of structure, something that I would like to have more of in my life, so its a source of learning from those who have basically master that.

Would be interesting to see how my first shadow function lines up with one of your top. I don't know really that much at all about the shadow, but I know its a factor. I feel when I am under pressure (time constraints, stressed, micromanaged) my Te kicks in more for instance.

I'd like to know how close I am in trying to identify this without really knowing anything about it. Basically a test to see how my experience blindly is accurate to being ISTP.

 

[PmjPmj]

Re: the shadow, I'm not entirely sure on that one myself to be honest. In my dealings with ISTPs, the main draw seems to be the interplay between Ni and Se. We can be having fun one minute (ISTP brings me more into the moment / loosens me up) and balls deep in some sort of philosophical or metaphysical debate the next.

I think a lot of ISTPs are dissuaded from typing themselves as such because the stereotypes often paint them as 'salt of the earth' type individuals who care only for what is 'real' (concrete), based almost exclusively in the here and now.

My experiences however have taught me that ISTPs tend to have a rather philosophical bent - and without exception (again, just my experience) they are fiercely intelligent individuals, their minds constantly ablaze with a great many things.

One ISTP I know (although I haven't spoken to him in a while) was actually training up to be in the SEALs. Dude was only about 20, but fuck me. So smart. We had some amazing late night conversations about the nature of reality / motivation to get shit done D:

For the ISTPs I have been fortunate enough to encounter and have meaningful interactions with, I have the deepest respect.

(apologies for incoherence; it's 4:25am and I've had 3 hours of sleep. W00t, etc.)

 

[QuickTwist]

Re: the shadow, I'm not entirely sure on that one myself to be honest. In my dealings with ISTPs, the main draw seems to be the interplay between Ni and Se. We can be having fun one minute (ISTP brings me more into the moment / loosens me up) and balls deep in some sort of philosophical or metaphysical debate the next.

I think a lot of ISTPs are dissuaded from typing themselves as such because the stereotypes often paint them as 'salt of the earth' type individuals who care only for what is 'real' (concrete), based almost exclusively in the here and now.

My experiences however have taught me that ISTPs tend to have a rather philosophical bent - and without exception (again, just my experience) they are fiercely intelligent individuals, their minds constantly ablaze with a great many things.

One ISTP I know (although I haven't spoken to him in a while) was actually training up to be in the SEALs. Dude was only about 20, but fuck me. So smart. We had some amazing late night conversations about the nature of reality / motivation to get shit done D:

For the ISTPs I have been fortunate enough to encounter and have meaningful interactions with, I have the deepest respect.

(apologies for incoherence; it's 4:25am and I've had 3 hours of sleep. W00t, etc.)

Interesting. You think its largely attributed to Ni/Se. That makes sense actually. I'm guessing the ISTPs you have met have been pretty bright. IDK that all of them would really be interesting for you though. WB btw, haven't seen you around in a while.

From what I read about ISTPs on that site where I took the test, they don't necessarily focus solely on the aspect that they are mostly "mechanical" and it focused much more on the efficiency to solve problems and more about how they think.

Interesting that you came across a lot of ISTPs who are philosophical. I guess that kind of stuff isn't what they are really known for but they might tend to have that bent nonetheless.

Anyways, why are you awake? Doesn't seem normal for an XNTJ to be awake in the middle of the night. Always figure your type to be more of that early to bed early to rise type.

 

[PmjPmj]

Interesting. You think its largely attributed to Ni/Se. That makes sense actually. I'm guessing the ISTPs you have met have been pretty bright. IDK that all of them would really be interesting for you though. WB btw, haven't seen you around in a while.

From what I read about ISTPs on that site where I took the test, they don't necessarily focus solely on the aspect that they are mostly "mechanical" and it focused much more on the efficiency to solve problems and more about how they think.

Yes, they have all been bright individuals. The Ti dominants I have encountered have been intelligent without exception, said intellect likely born of their predilection for gaining more and more knowledge as they progress through life; where others tend to plateau intellectually, Ti dominants seem to be learning and growing, always. I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions to this apparent rule, of course.

Interesting that you came across a lot of ISTPs who are philosophical. I guess that kind of stuff isn't what they are really known for but they might tend to have that bent nonetheless.

Perhaps 'Philosophical' was the wrong word (although a couple of 'em are interested in the topic in and of itself). More accurately, they seem to be wise beyond their years. They have often impressed me with their deep knowledge of the world and what it means to be a human within it. I'm struggling to find specific examples (as always) but yeah. Quite often an ISTP has been the type which has given me a different angle to look at something, or something to ponder deeply. They can make anything deep.

Oh, actually... a good example would be the time I had the struggle with self-motivation elucidated. Even a topic as seemingly shallow as personal motivation is lent a breadth and depth which transforms the seemingly physical and (to me) mundane into something mystical / otherworldly. If that makes sense.

Anyways, why are you awake? Doesn't seem normal for an XNTJ to be awake in the middle of the night. Always figure your type to be more of that early to bed early to rise type.

Yeah, pre-kids I was early down / early up - but now? Ha. What is sleep? To answer your question briefly but accurately, I am up because:

- Kids
- 'Stimulants'
- Too much work on; brain won't STFU

 

[QuickTwist]

Yes, they have all been bright individuals. The Ti dominants I have encountered have been intelligent without exception, said intellect likely born of their predilection for gaining more and more knowledge as they progress through life; where others tend to plateau intellectually, Ti dominants seem to be learning and growing, always. I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions to this apparent rule, of course.

Don't know if you were around when I was just starting with this stuff, but I think a lot of people likely considered me a moron. I hope I have changed at least some minds on that.

Perhaps 'Philosophical' was the wrong word (although a couple of 'em are interested in the topic in and of itself). More accurately, they seem to be wise beyond their years. They have often impressed me with their deep knowledge of the world and what it means to be a human within it. I'm struggling to find specific examples (as always) but yeah. Quite often an ISTP has been the type which has given me a different angle to look at something, or something to ponder deeply. They can make anything deep.

Oh, actually... a good example would be the time I had the struggle with self-motivation elucidated. Even a topic as seemingly shallow as personal motivation is lent a breadth and depth which transforms the seemingly physical and (to me) mundane into something mystical / otherworldly. If that makes sense.

I wouldn't normally say this (considering it would sound braggadocios), but I've always thought I was "ahead" of my school mates when it came to maturity. The same things that they really got a kick out of, I didn't find amusing in the slightest.

Yeah, pre-kids I was early down / early up - but now? Ha. What is sleep? To answer your question briefly but accurately, I am up because:

- Kids
- 'Stimulants'
- Too much work on; brain won't STFU

"What is sleep?", lol, I feel for you, I do.

 

[PmjPmj]

People seriously thought you a moron? Ha. I'm quite the opposite; I saw you as one of the biggest threats in Mafia, and I think that requires a fair degree of nous to play proficiently. I did not have my shit together in those games.

 

[QuickTwist]

Turns out I am INTP. Believe me, no one is more baffled by this more than me, least of all, my mother.

I decided to take an INTP's advice from over at PerC. He said to take an MBTI measurement once a year, so I did for ~3 years in a row (could have been a gap in the first and the second, but I still took another one about a year after the second).

Now, here's the thing...

The first time I took an official MBTI test, I got, you guessed it, INTP. The second time, I typed as INTP, but I thought it was a fluke and they gave me the option to look at other types. Looking over the comparisons between ISTP and INTP, I thought I fit better with ISTP... The thing is tho, is that I behave nothing like and ISTP in my behaviors. I thought I was just an ISTP with a double portion of Ni. The reality is that I DON'T care about most of the Se characteristics that separate INTP from ISTP. I have no desire to take physical risks for one and on top of that, I am not really very physically active. You would think it would be obvious, seeing as how I spend 85% of my free time at a computer instead of, say, rock climbing, which I have done before, that this would be a clear indication that I am NOT in fact an ISTP and am instead an INTP. But, you know how INTP's are about observing certain things; this was just a huge blind spot for me.

So fast forward about a year. I decided I would take the "scientifically validated personality type test" over at https://www.truity.com/ (great site btw). Now IDK how strongly I came out on each dichotomy, but, as I have learned from experience to be completely honest with these types of things, I came out as INTP. I was really surprised, which I shouldn't have been, but because I was so honest with my answers, I really was more expecting to come out as ISTP or INFP based on the selective questions I was remembering.

So there you have it. I am INTP and it was under my nose the whole time.

I'm open to thoughts on this.

 

[Hadoblado]

#tokenskeptic

No offense but I won't hold my breath.

You've been confident that you were other types before. I mean, right here in this thread it was crystal clear to you that you were ISTP.

Not that there's anything wrong with changing your mind or w/e. It's just, the moment someone claims this much confidence in a second type, I don't trust them not to do it again. There are a whole lot of people here that change type with the wind, and claim as much confidence as you do now. I don't take from this that you are or aren't INTP/ISTP. Rather that you are the sort of person who can identify this strongly with something and then change your mind to a mutually exclusive option and still have that same certainty... Why should I trust present you over probable future you?

 

[QuickTwist]

#tokenskeptic

No offense but I won't hold my breath.

You've been confident that you were other types before. I mean, right here in this thread it was crystal clear to you that you were ISTP.

Not that there's anything wrong with changing your mind or w/e. It's just, the moment someone claims this much confidence in a second type, I don't trust them not to do it again. There are a whole lot of people here that change type with the wind, and claim as much confidence as you do now. I don't take from this that you are or aren't INTP/ISTP. Rather that you are the sort of person who can identify this strongly with something and then change your mind to a mutually exclusive option and still have that same certainty... Why should I trust present you over probable future you?

Good question. IDK, I guess.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Well, my view is that you're an INFJ.

An INFJ might seem like an IxTP if they over-identify with Ti. That would make them less directive, and seemingly calm - seemingly because they're not truly calm, not to a strong degree anyway, but trying to keep calm by moving energy away from their sensitivities such as being over-stimulated by sensory input and having emotional volatility.

Compare Snoop Dogg and Eminem.

 

[QuickTwist]

Well, my view is that you're an INFJ.

An INFJ might seem like an IxTP if they over-identify with Ti. That would make them less directive, and seemingly calm - seemingly because they're not truly calm, not to a strong degree anyway, but trying to keep calm by moving energy away from their sensitivities such as being over-stimulated by sensory input and having emotional volatility.

Compare Snoop Dogg and Eminem.

That is interesting. I have had very few people type me as INFJ.

I'd like as much info that brought you to this conclusion as possible. Might be a lot of work, but even if you are wrong, it can help me learn something about myself, which is valuable information.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

That is interesting. I have had very few people type me as INFJ.

I'd like as much info that brought you to this conclusion as possible. Might be a lot of work, but even if you are wrong, it can help me learn something about myself, which is valuable information.

It's basically from comparing you to several people that I believe to be INFJ.

 

[QuickTwist]

It's basically from comparing you to several people that I believe to be INFJ.

I feel like its weird I am the rarest type.

I need more details than that. That's not enough to convince me.

 

[TheManBeyond]

"don't worry, i found them for you"

i would say infantile Fi for certain attitudes i've seen in threads like poker thing
you are too aware of general opinions and stick to them accordinly so more likely Fe type
weird that you are an ESFJ because you act like a perciever, unless ofc you are ISFJ. which is my final type for you.

 

[QuickTwist]

"don't worry, i found them for you"

i would say infantile Fi for certain attitudes i've seen in threads like poker thing
you are too aware of general opinions and stick to them accordinly so more likely Fe type
weird that you are an ESFJ because you act like a perciever, unless ofc you are ISFJ. which is my final type for you.

Thanks.