The INTJ - Pros and Cons

[BigApplePi]

Aside from my revision,

Question:

If an INTJ takes a strong stand on being non-judgmental, is (s)he an INTP?

If an INTP takes a strong stand on being non-judgmental, is (s)he an INTJ?

It happens naturally and needs no resistance.

If I were to force myself to something I would not do it longer than necessary.

Your strong stand is natural for you and this makes you INTP or INTJ.

Here is an excerpt from another thread:

you are correct, attitude comes first, behavior comes after that...

I think this needs a little more work. Here is my interpretation given the previous:

The INTJ is being judgmental on being non-judgmental. That means his behaviour looks like INTP but isn't. Underneath he is judgmental.

The INTP is being judgmental on being non-judgmental which includes judging judmentalists. This means his behaviour looks like INTJ but isn't. Underneath he is non-judgmental.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Aside from my revision,Here is an excerpt from another thread:
I think this needs a little more work. Here is my interpretation given the previous:

The INTJ is being judgmental on being non-judgmental. That means his behaviour looks like INTP but isn't. Underneath he is judgmental.

The INTP is being judgmental on being non-judgmental which includes judging judmentalists. This means his behaviour looks like INTJ but isn't. Underneath he is non-judgmental.

Would there be a difference in:

INTP being simply non-judgemental
INTP judging judgementalists on their judgemental nature that comes naturally from a person that rejects judgemental behaviour?

I think there is a difference so I am willing to agree.

I can see how INTJ trying not to be judgemental is crippling himself in a way.

 

[Pikachu]

Aside from my revision,Here is an excerpt from another thread:
I think this needs a little more work. Here is my interpretation given the previous:

The INTJ is being judgmental on being non-judgmental. That means his behaviour looks like INTP but isn't. Underneath he is judgmental.

The INTP is being judgmental on being non-judgmental which includes judging judmentalists. This means his behaviour looks like INTJ but isn't. Underneath he is non-judgmental.

When an INTP try to be judgmental, there is always doubt on his/her head?

Would there be a difference in:

INTP being simply non-judgemental
INTP judging judgementalists on their judgemental nature that comes naturally from a person that rejects judgemental behaviour?

I think there is a difference so I am willing to agree.

I can see how INTJ trying not to be judgemental is crippling himself in a way.

INTJs tend to think about what will happen next if he do this or that, there is always a reason behind an INTJ's action. Anyway, there are always times when the environment forces INTJ to be not judgmental and usually INTJ loses his/her opportunity for not trusting their own guts. It's somewhat hard to explain about how can an INTJ think and get the conclusion so fast, the other types tend to wait for clear and brief details first before make a conclusion.

IMO, that is one of the differences between INTP and INTJ.
INTPs need to think deeply and get everything in details first while INTJs can see the pattern immediately. The ability to see the pattern makes INTJ naturally judgmental.

 

[Goku]

pros: you can always take them seriously.

cons: they are too serious.

 

[Pikachu]

pros: you can always take them seriously.

cons: they are too serious.

People always take INTJs seriously, even when they are not being serious.

 

[Goku]

People always take INTJs seriously, even when they are not being serious.

pros: they can tell the best jokes

cons: you never know they are telling a joke.

 

[Pikachu]

cons: you never know they are telling a joke.

Does that mean the other types other than INTJ are too serious?

 

[Goku]

Does that mean the other types other than INTJ are too serious?

pros: thinks she is making a joke

cons: misinterpreting her own type's lack of communication skills

 

[Base groove]

pros: thinks she is making a joke

cons: misinterpreting her own type's lack of communication skills

Do you think you could clarify this or is it a handful of dirt?

Could you substitute "misinterprets" for "correctly interprets and communicates through parody"? Yes, you could in fact. Then it wouldn't be a con though, whut a pity.

 

[Goku]

Do you think you could clarify this or is it a handful of dirt?

pros: thinks he made a witty remark

cons: actually committed a logical fallacy

 

[tvrgvryen]

Pros:
-systematic & thorough means of doing things (efficient, quick, & desirable results)
-ambitious, hard-working & resilient
-confident & assertive
-inquisitive & intelligent

Cons:
-dogmatic
-conceited
-overly serious & irritable
-unawareness of emotions of ppl around them

 

[Base groove]

actually committed a logical fallacy

Yes you are right but you are now encouraged to address the addendum.

 

[Goku]

Yes you are right but you are now encouraged to address the addendum.

pros: persisting with logical accuracy

cons: derailing the thread and not following structure imposed in the OP