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Stable Intelligence?

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I don't think intelligence is all about IQ tests.

But I do think intelligence can be based on the 1 in x relationship to solving problems.

So if I am better than 99% of people at solving problems I am 1 in 100 and so on for other problems.

Specifying what a problem is I cannot tell you but I have an analog.

People can remember 7 things at once on average being 100 IQ and this increases or decrease 1 item every 5 IQ points.

As example 145 can remember 16 things at the same time. What is important to know is that if a problem has 16 objects to be considered at the same time then they have an interrelationship of 256 when you must compare them all together at the same time.

This is only an example of what might be required. Other things are important to like what you can pay attention to at the same time but let think of this as happing in ones head.

You imagine 16 variables as 256 relationships and use this to create your ideas applied to the real world.

1 in 400 people would be able to do this.

Now let's say you as a person would like to think like this, what could you do?

You would need to expand your awareness.

Not by practicing puzzles as this only makes you good at that particular puzzle.

Instead you may have to shift focus.

To many people set themselves up to learn in unhealthy ways that diminishes parallel processing.

The best athlete's train with elite trainers, I believe the brain can be made more intelligent by a wider perspective shifting. The Flynn effect shows this. Because of special attention kids and adults can increase a perceptual range. This is what situational awareness is. And like the body can atrophy or become an Olympic athlete. The right Food water, special attention, so can perception. It is basically inter hemisphere synchronization to become autodidactic.

Stable Intelligence is a misnomer of aggregated data sets I believe of people doing normal life activities. Not enhanced activities.

The norms of population under enhanced activities would raise the average up considerably.

The 1 in x measure then would become almost useless. A normal curve would not exist anymore, it would shift right abnormally and be asymmetric to the other side.

I don't mean to say this will happen but that it is possible. Atrophy of awareness is a real problem that people face in cognition. Holding people back is not knowing how to pay attention that create synergistic effects. Like the poverty trap (I am poor because I am hungry, I am hungry because I am poor) type of thing.

It makes sense that first a person needs cognitive reflection as to emotional stability and health stability. Then further awareness training. The person who created the flow genome institute looks at ways to do this. He had depression and worked through it but by trial and error. More advanced techniques exist. The brain doesn't have to be an unresponsive blob of Jell-O. More so like a fighter pilot.
 

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Tony Hawk was a pro skateboarder in the 1980 - 90s

He was tested at 144 (about 1 in 400)

This may be unrelated but if you use all your body at the same time then you will gain more executive function and a wider perception because of how the cerebellum is used to increase those cognitive processes.

Being narrowly focused on a smartphone all the time you may be specialized to use it. But on IQ tests as to problems solving, to get a high score requires you to perceive multiple patterns at the same time and mentally manipulating them. So by practicing increasing your perception range and doing executive related tasks you can increase your score on IQ tests.

That is to say tony hawk contends with multiple variables at the same time when skateboarding so his brain is coordinating his body. When your brain has to work with itself to do many things at once. It becomes more complex. Seeing more, hearing more doing more with the body. It wires itself up that way. Like juggling three or more balls the actions needs wider attention and planning if you are to navigate around obstacles.

Learning to do many things at the same time.

A system exists for that.

The cerebellum

Stop, Look, listen, shift/pay attention.

Narrow your focus less.

Think before doing as you do it.
 

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It's odd to say but I think what we have learned from AI is that in a sense intelligence is overrated, like sure it's good to be highly intelligent but it's like a fast car vs a slow car, if they can both get you to a destination the only difference is that one can get you there faster.

What we think of as super intelligence is comparing a fast car to a helicopter that can go places the fast can cannot go no matter how much time it has.

Quantum computing might unlock super intelligence in the same way it can break encryption, enabling an AI to make enormous leaps of intuition, and what really amuses me about this is that it's how schizophrenic people think. They make associations where other people don't and if they could do that with enough processing power to find the signal in the noise they'd be geniuses.

They've be able to just intuitively know things which other people would need explained to them like a helicopter building a road section by section so the fast car can reach the mountain peak.

I'm thinking of a fictional world where schizophrenic people with brain-computer interfaces are like navigators from Dune in that they're the only humans who can communicate with super intelligent AIs, which struggle to express themselves in a linear format that normal people can understand.
 

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Cats are very intelligent creatures.

They are like fox

They can see how to get things.

Very flexible and coordinated balance.

Yes as long as you have a goal in mind and you can achieve it it doesn't matter how fast you do it.

Yet you need to be cognitively flexible.

Making sure everything is in place.

As an astronaut tho, you need to deal with many problems at the same time that need the same attention.

That requires simulation of them all together in your head to not make mistakes.

So it's more than trial and error.

Cats are best at attentiveness.

It's why they can catch laser beams.

But the simulator is small.

Big picture thinking then for a cat to do requires keen observation so it can remember what it needs to.

That way it has learned experience it can apply to a further goal of freeing up its cognitive resources.

Skills that it uses latter.
 

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Quantum computing might unlock super intelligence in the same way it can break encryption,
Quantum computing is not some kind of specialized processing unit for LLM or any another kind AI.
It seem it will be good at scientific simulations. I guess that could be useful for AI but you would not be able to have super AI with just Quantum processor.
 

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Quantum computing might unlock super intelligence in the same way it can break encryption,
Quantum computing is not some kind of specialized processing unit for LLM or any another kind AI.
It seem it will be good at scientific simulations. I guess that could be useful for AI but you would not be able to have super AI with just Quantum processor.

Even with a quantum processor what a.i. does might not require one.

The human brain and body is an input output device with thinking in the middle.

Quantum computing has probability maths at its core so maybe it could be used to enhance decisions making but overall the architecture of thinking is more simple that doesn't require as much statistics as people think it does.
 
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