Probabilistic MBTI Personality Model

[alkarion]

Hello everyone!

So I had this thought regarding the interaction between people and their individual perceptions of each other.

(I am hoping anyone with an understanding of MBTI, Jungian cognitive types, or statistics/math can contribute, though any constructive thoughts are acceptable!)

The idea is: Can the translation of individual character into personality change considering another persons ability (preference) to perceive external character?

It would seem that who we are as people is largely constrained in our minds and is only perceived by others in the state of projection:

• SO if this is the case, could it be said that perception of individuals within society is in fact probabilistic considering it can be influenced based on the cognitive function of the sender and the receiver? (Which in any given moment will change based on circumstance and preference?)
  
• If this true, could it be further abstracted into a model: say if you have a combination of xx% over the cognitive types and you interact with another entity with xx% over cognitive types, can you calculate with statistical confidence which personality one or the other will perceive each other as? (Assuming there is an empirical constancy with cognitive function.)

I'd love to hear anyone's thought on the matter! If I should clarify my thoughts, please mention so I can help facilitate discussion.

Thank you!

 

[Infinitatis]

Re: Probabalistic MBTI Personality Model

The idea is: Can the translation of individual character into personality change considering another persons ability (preference) to perceive external character?

To clarify: by individual character, are you referring to one's values and beliefs? Secondly, what do you mean exactly by "external character"? Perhaps I'm just tired, but I can't quite make sense of this. If you wouldn't mind paraphrasing this, that would be great.

After that, I will gladly contribute to the discussion.

 

[alkarion]

Re: Probabalistic MBTI Personality Model

Of course!

Character: An individuals values, beliefs, behaviors, habits, or otherwise ephemeral sense of identity. With a focus on identity and self-awareness

Personality: Character in action, or extroversion of the self-identity.
Example: "I'm a guy and thereforce must act tough. I act tough. Someone thinks I'm rude, not tough."

-I suppose my definition of personality here could be argued as incorrect, as it at least differs to some sources. I'm defining it as "someone's perceived character." And not 'inborn temperament' or predisposition of experience/culture.

Does that help?

EDIT:
Also, this character/personality concept presupposes an individual's behavior (character) is a snapshot of MBTI type, as related to a certain preference in a situation. (Which then implies one could change their reaction as they see fit. Compare dominant type to shadow type.)

E.g. A normally relaxed and passive individual is pushed to work on a project. Perhaps shifting focus from Ti to Te. (I could be using this wrong, I admittedly do not understand the relations between types and their link to MBTI type per se.)

 

[Tannhauser]

Re: Probabalistic MBTI Personality Model

I wish I could comment on your model but I understood pretty much none of it. For example, it is very unclear what the random variables are.

 

[jar of tuna]

Re: Probabalistic MBTI Personality Model

You might enjoy relating this to type relations in socionics, though that's on a different scale; yours is more individualized, per se.

I do think I know what you're talking about, but oddly enough I don't feel like I have an identity, though my character, habits, and core values are pretty static. I just use new masks as needed or demanded by circumstance. I'm not comfortable assessing my self-awareness because it fluctuates.

My state of being stems from childhood experiences wherein any form of expression was cause for punishment, regardless of whether that was warranted by accepted standards. It was dangerous to express yourself because punishment was always unpredictable, so everything was held back and locked down, eventually becoming rather permanent.

This punishment style initially forced me into an experiential yet experimental paradigm. I learned to expose things at will situationally, sending out specific inputs and learning social behavior based on the responses I got. What I show you is based almost entirely on what you show me first, which becomes progressively less important over time as rapport builds until some threshold is reached. I have unusual body language and facial expressions compared to what I actually feel inside because my learning is heavily observation-based, almost autistic. I described what follows the observation stage in terms of a heuristic here in the second spoiler, if you're interested.

As for how this is perceived by others... I'd imagine that most people who know me would be shocked by my range of emotional expression, energy, and capacity to do certain things and relate to others, because I'm not close with any of them...

 

[alkarion]

Hi guys,

Just wanted to apologize taking so long to respond to your posts; I appreciate your efforts in adding to the discussion!

 

[QuickTwist]

I would say coming up with reasonable statistics can be done in theory, but not even close to in practice.