Let's See If I Got This Right: INTP Foresight

[TriflinThomas]

It's been my experience that people look at Ni as a mystical function, because of the foresight capabilities of Ni-doms. Ni's "mystical" abilities comes from its prowess as a system-building function. Ni's main reason for existing is to improve predictability (in different situations). I saw someone on here say that predicting the future isn't all that difficult, and they used the example of "1, 3, 5,... What comes next?" I belive INTPs can predict the future with some level of aptitude by using Si, Ne, and Ti. INTP finds itself in situation X, Si recalls relevant information about similar situations, Ne finds a pattern and says A, B, C, or D could potentially happen, and Ti picks the most likely one. So, Si, Ne, and Ti work in tandem to mimic the functionality of Ni.

 

[own8ge]

Sure, but not sure as well.

We predict the future in a whole different way as Ni does, whereas We are more likely to be right. And Ni to have some sort of stubborn assumption that is never right. However, they assume so much that when they are right it's blessed.
-I hate it what Ni persons think to know, without logical substantiation!
They have Never ever! Made a conclusion that is true about how or what I thought. Whilst I, am very likely to be right when making a conclusion how or what one thought.

And they are naturally close-minded in the assumptions they make!

I.e. I'm walking in a shop with a (Fi-)Ni person.
I show characteristics of having it cold.
Ni person will be like: "(Ah,) You are having it cold.(?)"
Whereas I am now trapped. Because A) Yes I am having it cold. but B) The characteristics I have shown that may seem like I have it cold, where not because of that I have it cold! and C) Why the fuck do you assume this, and what the fuck do you expect me to say.
And If I would want to explain this, They wouldn't understand. Fucking dilemma!
-I'm "irritated" by this, because when they ask me stuff such as "you have it cold". My cognitive process shuts off and be like "SIGH!!! -What the fuck do you want!" I wonder what their intentions may be and all I see is darkness(Evilness) and nonsense. I do however "always" know their intentions and they "fear" me for this.
And when I ask them about their intentions, they look at me like I'm the fucking madman. Get a fucking grip Ni fools!

And Ohh god, I hate their gaze! (ISFP)
They can gaze right at you, and you know they are fucking staring at you and it is OBVIOUS what they are thinking and how EVIL this is what they are thinking (If observed from an objective perspective). And what they are thinking makes no sense at all (but you can't explain this to that person because it make no sense. You can't invalidate something with logic, if it contains no logic.) And then when you look at them. Their Se will keep on looking just a little longer rather than to just look right away. And in that moment, you just know how evil it is.

I'd say INTP - ISFP relations can work rather well at first but can't be maintained without putting yourself through pain frequently. (But I'd say that with a lot off personality types)

 

[TriflinThomas]

ISFPs have Fi, Se, Ni, Te. Not exactly a good example of Ni...

 

[own8ge]

ISFPs have Fi, Se, Ni, Te. Not exactly a good example of Ni...

They have Fi Se Ni Te. But Ni plays a big part, Ni is where they are "based" on, Ni defines what they think. Ni draws their conclusions. Ni guides them in their thought process. So yes, I'd say they are a rather perfect example. (Look at their characteristics, and see how Ni is inevitable to cause these characteristics. They are the artist, whilst having Se. this is, due to Ni. As everything in them, is due to Ni.)

ISFP's are subjective people. Ji is nothing more but judging the other functions (subjectively). Se is Push of thought to acquire push-backs. and then Ni manufactures subjectivity. So basically there is a loop. Ni gets to Fi and then Se. Whereas Ni is their Core.

(And yes what I just explained is based on ISFP. Their Fi-Se cognitive functionality is obvious)

So when in my previous story I reflected upon Ni, I did so by putting the relevancy on where it all stems from which is Ni.

 

[TriflinThomas]

Would you say that they use Ni as proficiently as an INxJ?

 

[own8ge]

Would you say that they use Ni as proficiently as an INxJ?

Well, for Ni doms it's also in their "cognitive functionality". What I mean with that is what functions are being used to "push and pushback." -Do I even make sense? I might need sleep.

The question you ask is as thinking we INTP's have less emotions and feelings than ENFJ's, while that is not true. We have as much (as in heavy) emotion, but not as externally exposed/expressed/implemented.

And our Fe is basically the same as their Fe. So to describe Fe, it would be as good to look at an INTP as an ENFJ. (Not?)

And if you would ask who's Fe is better, ENFJ's or INTP's. It's indecisive, unless you have some sort of objective boundaries. (Not?)

Haha, I put things as "Not? and Right? or Do I make sense?" behind my sentences so I don't come across as arrogant

 

[TriflinThomas]

Well, for Ni doms it's also in their "cognitive functionality". What I mean with that is what functions are being used to "push and pushback." -Do I even make sense? I might need sleep.

The question you ask is as thinking we INTP's have less emotions and feelings than ENFJ's, while that is not true. We have as much (as in heavy) emotion, but not as externally exposed/expressed/implemented.

And our Fe is basically the same as their Fe. So to describe Fe, it would be as good to look at an INTP as an ENFJ. (Not?)

It depends on what side of Fe you want to see. If you want to see immature/raw Fe, look at INTPs. If you want mature/refined Fe, look at the ENFJ.

 

[own8ge]

It depends on what side of Fe you want to see. If you want to see immature/raw Fe, look at INTPs. If you want mature/refined Fe, look at the ENFJ.

I don't think their Fe is more mature/refined. It's just more refined into their standard. We (INTP) have different standards and we refine it in that standard.

So Fe in a Fe standard is that more significant or proficient than Fe in a Ti standard?

If you have a beast. Is it better if you let it lose in the wild and do what it want (Fe)? Or train it towards certain standards (Ti)? I prefer Ti. And trust me, I could likely win a beast fight in a war against an ENFJ.

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