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i thought i was some isfp but then several people have told me too much things, infp, istp, isfj, entp, etc.
I really can't relate to Te.

here's a brief questionarie i did for another forum:

1) What aspect of your personality made you unsure of your type?

Ti - Te, Fe - Fi

2) What do you yearn for in life? Why?

i yearn for a confortable and stable life, it doesn't mean i don't want to taste everything i can, i would love to travel around the world, i would love to live in lots of places. I want to become usefull to myself, i want to be able to survive through hard shit. I would love to keep passion for life. I want to live a relaxed life.

3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.

I was having a cool time last year, i was having a pretty solid relationship that i keep to this day. I also started the career i wanted in university finally. I was finally leaving behind some frustrations and fears that i had socially speaking.

4) What makes you feel inferior?

I feel inferior when people demonstrate their knowledge and they beat me up in discussions. I feel fucked there. I also feel bad when people show me how big are their lifes and how much money they have and i compare it to my situation and get pretty frustrated and sad.

5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)

I think that mostly feelings. It depends on the situation, and this is what is disturbing me so much about my type, i can't really tell if Fi or Fe. I considerate other's feelings in my decisions. Lately i've learn to not be so considerate with others. Life have show me that not because i was good i will be a better person. This is bullshit. So i can say that i'm much more careless about other's right now. I still have to say that it comes rather forced. I mean what naturally comes to be is to be considerate and put my feelings aside, think first of the other but then i say fuck them. This is why i'm not quite sure if Fi or Fe. I'm also always reading people's gestures, faces, and i make my own conclusions about them. I'm not sure if this is Fi, because i can be quite judgemental about people that i don't even know or on the contrary Fe cuz it's about interpretating their moods picking up different little pieces of nothing and making up an scify history.

6) When working on a project what is normally your emphasis? Do you like to have control of the outcome?

I can speak here of my band for example. Even if we were 4 members that are supposed to contribuite i was pretty dominating there cuz i was so confident about my composing that i pretty much nullified everyone else's ideas in the process. I wanted to be sure everything was according to my vision of the final outcome. Every little external aspect was discarded. But i discarded them almost trying to hide that i was opposed to them. I mean when there was some suggestion for a song, i would say ok, let's try it. Then little by little i can't explain exactly how it was like nothing ever happened and we leaved it like it was. I'm pretty individualist.

8) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)

It depends on what's the thing i'm going to learn. If you mean theory and studies stuff i prefer to think about it, once i can understand what i'm reading, the basic concepts and stuff then the next step is definitely some memorization.
When the stuff requires it i definitely want to try things with my hands.

9) How organized do you to think of yourself as?

I'm really disorganized. I wish i was not. I feel bad about it and there are some ocassions where i feel really confortable after cleaning up all the mess. I suppose like everyone.

10) How do you judge new ideas? You try to understand the principles behind it to see if they make sense or do you look for information that supports it?

I try to understand them and see if they make sense to me and try to apply them to my situation and stuff. This is Ti vs Te, i feel much more identified with Ti. But it could be also indicative of inferior Te for ISFPs and INFPs wich are the typical types i got when typed by people.

11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself?

Man, it is hard to answer. I mean, maybe both. I explain. I'm really concerned when it comes to feel people good in groups. But here's why: when i was younger i felt that people pushed me away all the time and that i was an outcast. Now when i see this happens i try to help other's that i see in my past situation. Yet at the same time it doesn't come naturally. It comes from what i've experienced and there's like some kind of relief or gratification for myself when doing it. So is it Fi or Fe?... The last part of the question is pretty meh. I don't believe i have some great beliefs inside of me, i act just according how i feel to every situation. There's no big morality. I mean there could be some like i don't want to see my brother naked in my house cuz it feels unconfortable for me for some reason. This is frustrating cuz i normally when i have to type another person it's like i can piece together the big puzzle, all the little shit reduces to 3 important details and voilá there's your type. But for me it's like everything can be placed in one way or another resulting in lots of possible types. I know it is not an exact science but so far i've thought about: ISFP, INFP, ISTP (specially for their hipersensitivity to relationships) INFJ, ISFJ and ESFJ.
I can minimize the options some more but i want you to bring your opinion here and debate it.

12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?

I think that under pressure i definitely speak before thinking. In normal conditions i don't usually say everything i think.
I prefer one to one communication, groups tired the fuck of me. If i'm confortable in a group then the group has to have a majority of introverts and maybe 2 extroverteds, this way we keep a balance. We're not jumping naked from our windows yet we're not all looking at the floor or shit. I know this are stereotypes but you get the idea.
Also i find one to one communication more interesting cuz i can ask questions to that person, about why she did something, why she likes that?, like we can interact in a more personal way.

13) Do you jump into action right away or do you like to know where are you jumping before leaping? Does action speaks more than words?

Action surely speaks more.

14) It's Saturday. You're at home, and your favorite show is about to start. Your friends call you for a night out. What will you do?

Fuck them, they should have called me sooner. I'm now in my pajamas, eating some interesting fast food that i recently paid for and it's time to relax. If they have told me before i would have think of it. Most of time i prefer to stay at home.

15) How do you act when you're stressed out?

The only thing that stresses me is my girlfriend. I swear that there's almost nothing else in the world that can get me so stressed. I don't fucking know why cuz she's relaxed like me.
I say things that i shouldn't say. I get anxious. I overthink things. I get pretty sentimental when i'm really un-romantic - sentimental, etc.
This is pretty dificult cuz i'm so relaxed normally that i can't think of situations of stress besides some problems i have had with my gf so maybe if i get stressed about something else i wouldn't give a shit and maybe start jumping around or something.

16) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people?

Rigidness, people that only care about themselves (this is pretty ironic cuz i've been told several times that i only care about myself, i don't think this is true, i think i just don't manifest it as those person would like).

17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?

projects, whys, interesting things i see on the internet, random stuff, studies.

18) What kind of things do you pay the least attention to in your life?

I pay a lot of attention to food and sexual stuff. I find difficult to name things i don't pay attention to. I guess i don't pay attention to order. I don't really care about political stuff. I was pretty nihilistic about life at some point. I care about knowledge, i want to become a guru, some kind of wisdom man or something. I would love to become that kind of wise person when i'm older. It's kinda a dream, my intelligence and will separate me from it.

19) How do your friends perceive you? What is wrong about their perception? ? What would your friends never say about your personality ?

Weird, dummy, funny, maybe caring. Do not confuse caring with warmness.
Individualistic, kinda cold, doesn't show himself how he really is to everyone.
Hard to get to know.
I don't think they would differ that much from my own perspective.

20) You got a whole day to do whatever you like. What kind of activities do you feel like doing?

Watch some movie, series, go for a walk, go eat some cool restaurant, spend some time on the internet, see my gf, have sex, play guitar, maybe sing a bit.
 

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I believe i was really unfocused, i was careless about everything, i had no goals in life.
This has to do with personal problems i had back then.
I was really shy and that confused people a lot, this lead me to lots of missunderstandings in my relations with people.
There was a short period of time 17-18 where i only cared about going out at night and find some girl and smoke weed with my friends. I gave up studies, i couldn't focus on anything.
I was a mess in all aspects.
I think i was really socially retarded becuz of leaving my country, i can say from 15 to 19 i was an outcast, even though i had friends and girls i always felt unconfortable with them. I never felt like i belong there. Eventually things got quite better. I think i'm really positiveand enthusiastic guy, back then i wasn't.

I barely see anything good back then. Maybe i had more passion for my art works, i didn't had to put much effort to come up with cool pieces (songs and stuff). Now it's seems i've lost my creativity, and that i'm totally down to earth, or almost.
Not much more come to mind right now.
Haha, maybe i went too much back in time but the positive progression was from 20 to now, and i'm not done yet. Shit happened before.
 

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Okay. We are on our way somewhere. Next question: what sorts of projects do you like to accomplish, if any?
 

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Gonna talk a little bout my hobby projects.

I enjoy so much composing music. About 2 years ago i had a band, we put up the whole thing, i composed everything, we made some concerts, some local interviews. That was pretty amazing. We split up.
Also i've been making a "solo album" since then, the whole process is pretty cool, i enjoy recording it, mixing it, composing it, anyway i haven't find enought time / inspiration to finish it.

Last year i spent quite a few hours and weeks of spare time learning basic computer programming and design, i was reading a lot of it in websites and stuff and making lots of tests and playing around with it, eventually i got a bit tired and i came to a point where i felt i couldn't go on without external help. I wish i could learn more about it when the right time come.

I also started to writte a book which was pretty wtf. I discarded the idea for my lazyness and some other reasons.
As you see i'm half-done.
 

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I am going to guess ISTP. Basically an INTP without the strength to synthesize ideas. But you can actually DO something!:evil:
 

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You might want to check this out. For what its worth I think you are ISFP. It looks as though you use your values to drive what you do. This is Fi. My reason for this is in the way you interpret things and act according to what value you place on this. I am seeing this through the way you conducted your band. You certainly didn't go right out and say "no, that is a bad idea"; you were considerate of their feelings, but acted on your value that you thought it would be better the original way. You seem to be pretty engaged with the outside world with music and sex and smoking weed with friends (which, it looks like you don't do anymore), So this looks like Se. I say Ni because it seems like you take an idea and run with it. Te for being definitive in your speech.

I'm not a great typist and have little experience so take it with a grain of salt.

I also made a rather unsuccessful guide for self typing which you can look at here.
 

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You might want to check this out. For what its worth I think you are ISFP. It looks as though you use your values to drive what you do. This is Fi. My reason for this is in the way you interpret things and act according to what value you place on this. I am seeing this through the way you conducted your band. You certainly didn't go right out and say "no, that is a bad idea"; you were considerate of their feelings, but acted on your value that you thought it would be better the original way. You seem to be pretty engaged with the outside world with music and sex and smoking weed with friends (which, it looks like you don't do anymore), So this looks like Se. I say Ni because it seems like you take an idea and run with it. Te for being definitive in your speech.

I'm not a great typist and have little experience so take it with a grain of salt.

I think all of what you refer to is an inferior Fe grip experience. He mostly describes his social experience in critical, not affirming, terms. And his consideration of feelings is just something that happens in all people. Stress to our egos brings out more primitive functions from the unconscious.
 

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So he is a pessimist? I don't see how that means he is not a feeler. Please explain.
 

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So he is a pessimist? I don't see how that means he is not a feeler. Please explain.

He also says he does not believe anything. That is not something someone with differentiated Fi would say. Such a person would have a certain perspective and approach to life. Such a person would find some meaning. No meaning even for basic stuff, it seems.
 

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@TBerg, Overgeneralization. You didn't explain much, you just gave another reason why you think I'm wrong. I am asking for and explanation.
 

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@TBerg, Overgeneralization. You didn't explain much, you just gave another reason why you think I'm wrong. I am asking for and explanation.


I am sorry if my post was not explanatory enough. I tried to. But let me try again. I guess I need to write more than you, not less.

I think that consideration of the feelings of others does not make one excellent and vibrant in social circles. I can be considerate of others, but it depletes my energy. I know that I have some sort of shitty Fe. He also seems not to excel in the social arena and chooses to pursue solo activities involving experiential expertise and technical analysis. Nowhere in the description of his interests is an expression of the personal meaning of the music or the computer programming. He could have a differentiated Fi, but he does not show it. Where are the ideals and the philosophies? Where is the hope, the despair?

I hope that clarifies things. Any question about it would be appreciated.
 

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From reading your OP, my hunch is on INTP. From your answers, you clearly seem like a dominant thinker.

Just remember, having feeling and thinking is like having two hands. We use both hands for lots of stuff, but one hand is more dominant than the other. I'd say your a thinking dominant.

I'm basing my hunch that you are a thinker on the fact that you seem to present yourself as leaning more towards impersonal analysis and logic, the raw facts, rather than admiring sympathizing and moral values. Both of these are present, but the thinker acts first.

It's probably no mystery to you that you are more introverted than extroverted. I'm also going to say that you naturally perceive in an extroverted situation, rather than judge, making your last letter "P".

I'm having a hard time knowing if you do actually use intuition over sensing, because the questions hardly tackle that area, and/or I don't have much information between the two. Yet when taking all your answers into account, I think I'm seeing more intuition dominating your personality.
 

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I say Intuition over sensing, because you did answer the questions intuitively and concise. Also:

17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?

projects, whys, interesting things i see on the internet, random stuff, studies.

To talk about projects, the "whys", studies, and interesting things naturally would make use of Ne.

**(I think. I'm not a guru with MBTI or anything :confused:) **
 

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Ok, well that's a new one on the list. I'll read more of them.
I think i try to answer things as they come to my mind in that moment, i think if i overanalize my answer then how would they be true and natural?. This is why i find so mmm tests, cuz they do give you a general view of the person but i think many people kinda fake their answers even if they are not really trying to fake them.

I think back then i would easily say i was an N, now as i said i'm more grounded.
I mean i go to places like personality cafe and see how some users talk, how they seem to be talking in anoother level of language / universe and i don't know if that comes naturally to them.
Maybe it comes naturally but i can't go to that level. That's why i compare myself to them so-called intuitives and i definitely know i'm not like that.
Maybe it has to do with the fact that i just use english for internet conversations and this make my language quite limitated.
I don't know.
 

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I counted "I think" 5 times in your last post. I didn't count any "I feel"'s.

i think if i overanalize my answer then how would they be true and natural?

Another sign of NT.
 

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I feel I must apologise. I didn't mean to turn your thread into a debate. I would just like to encourage you to learn more about Myers Briggs any way you can. I think the best way to do this is to try and type yourself. I don't disagree with you asking for people to type you. It is a good way to get an understanding of the principles involved -especially when good feedback is given. If you want to be able to type other people the best way to get started is to type yourself. It is a big learning process for sure and typing yourself give a means to an end. I hope others will give their thoughts on your type as well. Good luck.
 

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I don't see why you should apologize, you're making me a favor and that's great, I find interesting people's opinions and debates, the more the better.
I agree with you tho. This requires lots of instrospection (imo the hardest part) and right understanding of the functions.
 

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So far your descriptions just scream out INFP.
I have met INFPs who were very smart. Maybe the reason you can't relate to Te is because it's an inferior function. If what you said is true...

4) What makes you feel inferior?

I feel inferior when people demonstrate their knowledge and they beat me up in discussions. I feel fucked there. I also feel bad when people show me how big are their lifes and how much money they have and i compare it to my situation and get pretty frustrated and sad.
This is a sign of strong Fi and weak Te prominent in INFPs and ISFPs. Extraverted versions of these personalities seem to handle rude jokes and criticism better because of their incredibly strong Se or Ne functions, able to mirror other people's human feelings and their own extremely well. Introverted people obviously cannot try to dig in to those functions because they are so strong.

So it's obvious you are introverted! Most people here are.

I did a test on myself, I went to ISTPs and INTPs and I weighed out how MOST comfortable I was to be around people of one personality. If you enjoy being around INFPs so much, chances are you either best relate to, or you are, an INFP.

I used to get along with ISTPs, but as I get older I slowly gravitated towards unlocking Ne out of my Ti-Si loop.

Of course, you don't have to listen to just me. Many INTPs have mistyped people. I have many times. I know many that have mistyped me for being ISTP because I like to take apart computers or something. but rest assured, those are stereotypes. And I know how strong-willed and good natured INFPs are. They use Ne and Te, so they like expressing themselves with very concrete and understandable words, while Fi and Si means they prefer to keep their feelings and sensations to themselves, as if they live in their amazingly bright reality from day to day. Some INFPs may be depressed if they can't express themselves clearly and receive loving feedback.

If this sounds like you, definitely check out other INFPs.
 

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Yup, I think I agree.
 
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