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  1. pernoctator

    PhD...Ehh

    Of course he desires progress; why wouldn't he? It's a natural side-effect of recognizing a problem. But again you make the mistake of concluding that there must be a plan attached. Voicing an issue does not give someone the responsibility of solving it. You're looking at egalitarian as...
  2. pernoctator

    PhD...Ehh

    In almost all of my posts, especially the first. See also: Philosophyking's posts on page 2. You can't attribute all the responsibility to us for not explaining ourselves up to your standards. When someone clearly says your assumptions are wrong, as in "You did not properly read my posts if...
  3. pernoctator

    PhD...Ehh

    As opposed to the individual. Others. The "community". I don't know what other possible meanings you think "the whole" could have had in this context. The benefits are myriad. Are you denying that they exist? Do you truly believe that everything you benefit from in life is a direct result of the...
  4. pernoctator

    PhD...Ehh

    I see nothing confusing about the sentence to which you replied (and butchered the grammar of). I ask again, what is it that you don't understand about it? No, that is not what the debate is about. That's what your strawman is about. I won't repeat myself; if you continue to ignore the...
  5. pernoctator

    PhD...Ehh

    Ah, now you're catching on. lol. I'm not sure what that means, as it's broken grammar. It's not what I said. What don't you understand? Well they do produce, and people do see value in it. You don't. You're acting as if these jobs don't exist period. That's not what this is about. You also...
  6. pernoctator

    PhD...Ehh

    First, the things that you produce are not the only things that you benefit from. Even in this non-ideal world, humanity often brings benefits to the whole. Are you arguing that this should not be the case? Second, the type of things you produce are not the only type of things. The products...
  7. pernoctator

    Being the bigger Wo/Man

    Whatever man. I'm unconvinced.
  8. pernoctator

    PhD...Ehh

    No. And therein lies the problem, as I've been trying to say. You can't seem to look past our motivations to the pure concepts. Your psychoanalyses of us is not only wrong but irrelevant. And therefore your blistered hands and glistening backside give you no more entitlement than the...
  9. pernoctator

    incoherent nonsense

    Can anyone think of myself as a third sex. Yes, I am expected to have. People often get used to me knowing these things and then a cover is placed over all of them. Along the side of the $$ are spent by (or at least for ) the girls. You can't settle the issue. It seems I've forgotten...
  10. pernoctator

    Being the bigger Wo/Man

    Truly winning a debate involves making the opponent understand his mistake. Educating people is satisfying, and succeeding at any task is even more satisfying when it's difficult, so feeling good about coming out on top after a long debate is pretty natural and not necessarily petty. I guess to...
  11. pernoctator

    PhD...Ehh

    False dichotomy. Things with value still have value regardless of whether Average Joe recognizes it. You're essentially arguing in favor of the status quo based on the presumption that the general presumptions of society are correct. It's a completely empty circular argument that could be...
  12. pernoctator

    PhD...Ehh

    "Nothing of value"? Meaningless hyperbole. And where did a person's "wish" come into this? Again you're ignoring the idea itself, instead attributing attitudes and motives to the person and reacting to those. More hyperbole, highlighted. Is this your only approach to debate? Twisting the...
  13. pernoctator

    PhD...Ehh

    I couldn't thoroughly read all the long posts here, but I find myself siding with Philosophyking, who seems to have been misunderstood. What he is presenting is idealism. Whether or not it's practical to always live according to an ideal in a non-ideal world is irrelevant to the validity of the...
  14. pernoctator

    Emotional attatchment to your computer?

    Whenever I look at my computer, I can't help but see myself reflected in it.
  15. pernoctator

    INTPs in written conversation

    I'm new too, I don't like making introductory threads though so I'll just start here. Yes, it is strange, but so what? I do it all the time too. In fact, it even happens within my private thoughts... I mean, sometimes my train of thought is interrupted by the fact that I'm not satisfied with...
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