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^What sort of limitations, and what sort of delusions? Also why are they delusional?

Yellow's having some kind of breakdown around forumers being from places other than the US. Hey Yellow, I know you're horrified it's not going to be quite as easy kidnapping me and stashing me in your lair, but you're going to have to accept that 'normal' is actually everyone else, *not* you...

Full spectrum of emotion or coping/productivity?

I don't grind, I twerk. Also I don't twerk, I'm lazy. I hate my job and it's killing me. I also have one of the easiest jobs in the world and I love it. This turned into a rant about my job because the rest of my grind-time is private, jackasses. Neutral/bad day: Good day: The thing...

Welcome Mustafa :D

Old coffee tastes like cockroaches. :)

This made me guffaw. 10 seconds! *helps rob TSR's nipples* What?

Thanks for the explanations Archie and Cog. I'll look into this properly when I have a day off.

Your mother was imaginary? :D

Yes, could you please explain what you mean here: It sounds like an interesting train of thought but I'm not sure exactly what you mean. What are 'intermediate forms', what are 'symbolics' and how do they arise out of vector data, what is vector data, what do you mean by 'everything we are'...

Cool, a fellow loon (or SCIENTIST! :D). Min and dutch: Sounds like it could be an autoimmune thing (Min already mentioned this). If you're interested, check out PANDAS. It's not generally associated with people over 12, but basically it involves autoimmune reactions following an infection...

I think I might know what you mean there. I've struggled to describe it too, but what you've just said sounds similar. Malnutrition: Balanced diet is good, though there are sometimes other issues blocking the absorption of key vitamins/minerals. While a lot of what you've posted sounds...

If you're really sleepy all day that sounds like a medical issue. Have you been checked out? You might have a sleep disorder, or have issues with your sleep at night causing you to be not well-rested, or chronic fatigue/ME/viral infection, thyroid problem, malnutrition, etc. Vit B and D levels...

This is strikingly accurate in my experience. I came to a similar conclusion a few years ago and shared it with others who exhibited similar cycles. It's a particular flavour of depression I've managed to overcome for the most part as I realised a lot of the depressed thoughts were...

I remember you mentioning that somewhere. I'm sadly not shocked by what I read at all, just reminded of our great potential for being screwed. I was brought up believing homosexuality was the result of demon possession amongst other little joys and know how easy indoctrination is. Sometimes it...

Blar: I meant because there is at least one other active thread on the topic already ("What makes MBTI not complete bullshit"). I also wanted to know why Reluctantly started it because it seemed like a vent thread but maybe they were genuinely curious about people's opinions. Otherwise, I agree...

Can you summarise his advice about the issue here, or give a general idea?

Tried to make a post about things I hate in the INTPs Hate thread; realised I was too full of hate to know where to start. *a single acid tear*

Gets people paranoid and/or judgemental about those around them and basically encourages them to be on the lookout for "soulless" behaviour, which means they'll be far more likely to imagine it. The site was insidiously planting seeds of paranoia. "Just think of how many lovers in the past...

I'm not worried about "soulless people"; I'm worried people actually buy into this crap because it perpetuates needless division and antagonism. Well, not worried. Disturbed. I already know people buy into a whole lot of drivel - this is just one more instance. Wouldn't be surprised if we are...

An interesting thing to take away from this is to consider who you'd classify as soulless if you had to. It's a good way to question how and why you react to different people, what's missing for you in one interaction vs another, and what's within you that contributes to that perception. The...

Yeah. That kind of bias is way too easy to blow up into something monstrous. Preys on our ever-ready ability to dehumanise those we don't understand or like. Well, S stands for Soul/Soulless and N stands for Nutjob... so I think that about sums it up. :p

I stumbled across a site that claims, with plenty of well-written "academic support", that there are actually two interbreeding races of humans on earth - the souled and the soulless. The latter are supposedly almost perfect facsimiles of the souled and can only be discovered after long and...

/vote Helvete's ass

I don't know, CharChar. That was just a guess, about your head. What do you think?

I haven't gotten across what I meant. I'm basically talking about homeostasis, and more or less saying it's the physical correlate of 'authenticity'. The mind will attempt to work itself into a state in which it's positive and stable, because internal conflict produces pain, and our brains are...

I agree you lose what makes each function unique. I actually said there are different 'alchemical' groupings that aren't represented in the MBTI (or I meant to anyway - might not have been clear). Ji is of course different to Pe, etc etc. IPs share something in common that they don't with...

It's not a meaningless category if some responses result in chemistry that fully supports continuously responding that way, and others don't, or only do partially. Then there's a clear basis for people inventing stories about their behaviour, because then behaviour isn't random but geared...

What's the point of this *thread*? We've had so many of these already; there's nothing new about the idea that typology is complete bunkum. Are you expecting to make people suddenly realise that MBTI is a load of crap, after the last thousand attempts have failed to do so? There are 3 camps...

I haven't thought about it in depth but I'm pretty sure it's the latter, since they claim each Mojo has a different flavour depending on gender and sexual orientation (all along the spectrum). Also, different pitches/facial muscles wouldn't really matter except at the first couple of levels of...

Should also have a spoiler on Pod'lair's philosophy, since it's integral to them and distinguishes them from other systems. Philosophy: There's a lot more to their philosophy and set-up - they also place their members in various roles suited to them to teach, tear down others, proselytise...

I'm not in complete disagreement with Architect, but I'll give it a shot. Pod'lair's theory: Visual reading: Podlair terminology: Pod'lair's reputation: My thoughts: In summary: Pod'lair is greatly-extrapolated Jungian function theory, influenced somewhat by MBTI, with a few new...

The J/P dichotomy is useful because it encodes fundamental differences between Ji and Je, Pi and Pe. An IxxP may have a judging function as their dominant but overall they're still much more likely to be: flexible, adaptive, open to new ideas, procrastinators, uncomfortable with plans, have a...

Oh, what? The words just came off the screen like that....:p

So true. :D On MBTI: I'd say understanding the theory and functions in some depth is pretty useful, because then you can look at a stranger, notice just a *few* traits, and infer a bunch of others with pretty reliable success. You can do this with other personality systems too of course, even...

I think so. My guess is that several different emotional problems are leaking into each other in the background, and affecting your ability to think. It looks like you might be putting pressure on yourself to "cleanly prove" other people's mistakes to yourself in order to 1) prove to yourself...

There are two main motivational systems right? Approach vs avoidance. Introverts tend to be heavy on the avoidance side and extroverts on the approach, and I notice on this forum people tend to posit avoidance/fear as the "real motivation" for most behaviour. But regardless, both systems exist...

Related random thought: Is overwhelm just anxiety? Or is it an actual state where the brain shuts down?

I'm starting to think a good portion of what I thought was me/my life is just insanity. My instinct following this realisation is to forsake all the old crap and ignore my impulses/thoughts/drives because they're misleading gibberish. Focus on Doing and Achieving in the outside world, which is...

Wolfgang Romeo I hate both those guys.

That stuck out to me the most. You're thinking about people not caring about you in the future - a lack of an emotional connection to you. That suggests to me that you're lacking real emotional connection now. That's one of the primary roots of depression: feeling disconnected. It may not be...

CharChar, I love your OP. Classic INTP. :D Consider that the root of your frustration is not so much the illogic as your emotional reaction to perceived injustice and inability to resolve it. I see a few things happening here: Your identity is rooted in your ability to sort truth from rubbish...

Also +1 to everything Auburn said.

Neither one of you is honest with the other. Start there. Do you want to genuinely know each other or do you want an illusion of intimacy while you keep secrets from the other to avoid upsetting the status quo, when really you're entrenching stagnation and destroying intimacy? Don't tip-toe...

Inside Out This is an animated kid's film that's actually brilliant, at least in how it shows the workings of the mind. Most of the movie is shot from behind a young girl's eyes and revolves around the 5 personified and caricatured emotions that contribute to her personality and choices. I found...

Recipes, pictures, anecdotes - anything. I'm hungry and lazy. I might go a-hunting tonight, but in the meantime, the internet is all I have :'( Let's start with this: http://www.wired.com/2013/09/fakemeat/ Weird! Not fussed about ethics, but bring it up if you want.

I know it's a real thing. I'm familiar with the general theory and not denying the dynamic exists. I was saying what we see here is explainable by other means. Also, power here is worth almost nothing - certainly no money, and little social reward - so I'm not sure why those 'in power' would be...

Can't it just have been that the mods had him on one last chance, no matter how small the infraction? That would explain just as well as your 'power trip theory' why a more minor insult got him banned, following a final attempt to get through to him. It'd be more about the overall pattern of...

Hold off on killing yourself for a while. Things will get clearer as you get older and you can make that choice then. IMO it's generally better for most people to stay alive - life is probably worthwhile for you on the whole. A lot of the time, what seems desperately hopeless is only the scenery...

Yes, my mind is blank most of the time. Never related to the 'endless chatter' INTPs are supposed to have. The blankness allows things to come and go easily I suppose. I also have zero problems falling asleep. I've felt like a bit of an airhead sometimes, which I'm ok with. I think the comment...