planned deliveries from a vacant house

[Ex-User (12972)]

Question. Does the mailman keep coming to your house even after you've moved? I highly doubt it. However, if one were to put the flag up, would the mailman stop to accept the items-to-be-mailed? Or would they likely not notice?

From what I can recall, we didn't have the same mailman; they switched out every now and then.

I want to know because I'm going to start mailing things from there.
It's currently vacant.

And I don't currently have access to the post office, so anything I mail will simply be letters and the such.

 

[Creeping Death]

If there is unofficial mail addressed to any former occupants, it will still arrive at the address. Vacant houses can accumulate mail. "Official" mail (from banks, govt) can still arrive at the address if the former occupant hasn't changed their address (filled out address change form, told their bank, the dmv)

If the mailman knows the house is vacant, he may not look for the flag. I wonder why you'd mail from a vacant address. What's wrong with your current address? Even if you're not within a reasonable distance to the post office, surely there's got to be a mail drop box around you. Just put the address of the vacant place on the package and drop it in one of those.

 

[Ex-User (12972)]

If there is unofficial mail addressed to any former occupants, it will still arrive at the address. Vacant houses can accumulate mail. "Official" mail (from banks, govt) can still arrive at the address if the former occupant hasn't changed their address (filled out address change form, told their bank, the dmv)

If the mailman knows the house is vacant, he may not look for the flag. I wonder why you'd mail from a vacant address. What's wrong with your current address? Even if you're not within a reasonable distance to the post office, surely there's got to be a mail drop box around you. Just put the address of the vacant place on the package and drop it in one of those.

I see.. very well, thank you.

I'm juggling unsavory circumstances. The folks I live with aren't aware of my intentions, nor would they approve of it. If I were to send mail directly from my house, they would quickly catch on and demand an explanation. And I really don't need that.

 

[TAC]

I worked at the post office briefly. Mail will continue to arrive until it is officially recognized as vacant which generally is recognized by the mailman assigned to the route after stuffing a box full of mail for well over a month. If I remember correctly, they put a form in the mailbox that is essentially a termination of delivery and that all mail for the address will be held at the post office. Also when sorting mail in the route cases(essentially a large cubby with addresses labeled; this is for mail like magazines, ads, stuff that can not easily be sorted automatically with the regular mail due to size differences etc.) there are placeholders that mark various addresses for special items including vacancies, forwards, holds so that other mail carriers can cover those routes effectively.

 

[Ex-User (12972)]

I worked at the post office briefly. Mail will continue to arrive until it is officially recognized as vacant which generally is recognized by the mailman assigned to the route after stuffing a box full of mail for well over a month. If I remember correctly, they put a form in the mailbox that is essentially a termination of delivery and that all mail for the address will be held at the post office. Also when sorting mail in the route cases(essentially a large cubby with addresses labeled; this is for mail like magazines, ads, stuff that can not easily be sorted automatically with the regular mail due to size differences etc.) there are placeholders that mark various addresses for special items including vacancies, forwards, holds so that other mail carriers can cover those routes effectively.

Ah.. darn.
Thank you for the input.
I suppose I'll just have to come up with something else..

 

[The Gopher]

I mean... this seems like the type of thing that would be really easy to do. Is there any reason other basic things won't work? What's the situation?

 

[Ex-User (12972)]

Simply put:

Too young to drive and due to such, I don't have access to a post office.

I plan on sending mail to a friend in New York.
However, I'd rather not send it from my location.
I currently live with my grandparents and I'd like to keep this "friend" of mine a secret.
If I'm sending and receiving mail from my house, they're bound to catch on quite quickly.

 

[The Gopher]

Simply put:

Too young to drive and due to such, I don't have access to a post office.

I plan on sending mail to a friend in New York.
However, I'd rather not send it from my location.
I currently live with my grandparents and I'd like to keep this "friend" of mine a secret.
If I'm sending and receiving mail from my house, they're bound to catch on quite quickly.

Ahh, well the sending aspect is easy, just hi-jack some random person's box not long before the mailman comes.

The receiving part is more difficult unless you personally arrange a system with someone. Do you have friends in school who could help? Send from their box and receive to their house? I mean, if you have access to a computer you only need to get one message out and they should be able to use email. However I assume that's not possible somehow?

How are you getting your stamps?

 

[Deleted member 1424]

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I get the feeling you're sending illicit materials that you don't want traced back to your address in event of discovery. >.>

 

[The Gopher]

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I get the feeling you're sending illicit materials that you don't want traced back to your address in event of discovery. >.>

Exactly we need to help this person out!

 

[Ex-User (12972)]

Ahh, well the sending aspect is easy, just hi-jack some random person's box not long before the mailman comes.

The receiving part is more difficult unless you personally arrange a system with someone. Do you have friends in school who could help? Send from their box and receive to their house? I mean, if you have access to a computer you only need to get one message out and they should be able to use email. However I assume that's not possible somehow?

How are you getting your stamps?

Unfortunately, I can't trust my friends enough to deliver anything for me.

What I aspire to do is very risky. It's not that the materials I'm sending are illicit, but rather that the person I'm contacting is a bit controversial amongst my family. And I don't want them knowing I have contact with him.

I suppose I could hi-jack someone's mailbox at the very last minute..

I've got the stamps aspect figured out.

 

[The Gopher]

Unfortunately, I can't trust my friends enough to deliver anything for me.

What I aspire to do is very risky. It's not that the materials I'm sending are illicit, but rather that the person I'm contacting is a bit controversial amongst my family. And I don't want them knowing I have contact with him.
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I suppose I could hi-jack someone's mailbox at the very last minute..

I've got the stamps aspect figured out.

I mean. I'm assuming you're covered on the digital front otherwise you wouldn't be posting here. So why is it controversial? I want to point out here against my interests (interests being curiosity) that you have no need to reply to that question. Yeah the hi-jacking works a treat for sending.

Hmm that sucks about friends. In the good old days all you needed was the thought of being spies and friends would do any weird thing you asked.

 

[Ex-User (12972)]

So why is it controversial?

I'm a minor and he's not. Nor is he part of the family, but instead someone I've grown particularly close to.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

Do they have a good reason for forbidding contact? Seems like they might. You should consider heeding it.

If for no other reason that you are fond of this person and your involvement with them could endanger them, since you are a minor.

Speculating sure does suggest highly uncomfortable potentialities. In which case you shouldn't involve adult 3rd parties and make them ignorantly complicit.

I think the mods should consider closing this thread.

 

[Ex-User (12972)]

Do they have a good reason for forbidding contact? Seems like they might. You should consider heeding it.

If for no other reason that you are fond of this person and your involvement with them could endanger them, since you are a minor.

Speculating sure does suggest highly uncomfortable potentialities. In which case you shouldn't involve adult 3rd parties and make them ignorantly complicit.

I think the mods should consider closing this thread.

Actually, they don't know about this person. And I'd like to keep it that way.

There's a lot more going on than you might think. But that's quite alright, I needn't elaborate.

I don't see how much bad could come out of it, save for the possibility of my grandparents finding out. Honestly, all we were going to do is send letters and the such. It's just a different form of communication. And much more intimate form of it, at that. At least in the sense that I believe it carries more value.

 

[The Gopher]

Well. Just think of the age gap. Then think of someone your own age with someone younger than him/her by the same age gap. If you think there is something wrong in that scenario or would find the person your age weird at least consider Adaire's advice.

 

[Ex-User (12972)]

Well. Just think of the age gap. Then think of someone your own age with someone younger than him/her by the same age gap. If you think there is something wrong in that scenario or would find the person your age weird at least consider Adaire's advice.

And the majority of society would side with that logic.

Understandably so, but I can assure you that this isn't most like other correspondences.
I suppose one could reason that I don't know any better and that many other naive girls would claim the very same thing. Well, he is by no means like other guys. Not in the slightest bit ordinary, really, but neither am I. And perhaps that's why I'm so smitten with him.

I'm well aware of the implications pursuing such a relationship might incriminate. But just as I am aware of the fine line we border, so is he. Worry not, the relations are not inherently sexual by nature.. We know our boundaries. We're just very close, and that seems to bewilder people.

The relationship itself is relatively pure and intellectual.
Very intellectually stimulating, actually.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

Actually, they don't know about this person. And I'd like to keep it that way.

There's a lot more going on than you might think. But that's quite alright, I needn't elaborate.

I don't see how much bad could come out of it, save for the possibility of my grandparents finding out. Honestly, all we were going to do is send letters and the such. It's just a different form of communication. And much more intimate form of it, at that. At least in the sense that I believe it carries more value.

I actually have a lot of experience dealing with minors who've attempted inappropriate and ill-advised contact with adults. I know I can't change your mind, and I'm not really attempting. Just make sure you have a good grasp of the consequences and a precise understanding of the current situation.

Whatever you're doing though, involving other unrelated people is highly unethical and you need to stop.


and if you're so damn smitten, wait til you're an adult. If it's such a magical relationship and he's not just an ephebophile, it'll survive. Ask yourself if it's really worth the risk, instead of just waiting awhile.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

btw, we have at least two mandated reporters on the forum.

 

[Ex-User (12972)]

Yes, yes. Very well. Report me.

I was an idiot for saying anything.

I'm not entirely sure how to delete this thread, in any which case.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

In many parts of the western world, mandated reporters are people who have regular contact with vulnerable people and are therefore legally required to ensure a report is made when abuse is observed or suspected.

They exist to protect vulnerable parties, decipherus.

 

[The Gopher]

relatively pure

Look don't get the wrong idea this doesn't bother me in the same way it does Adaire. (I've never seen her this serious though) But "Relatively pure" does not inspire confidence.

But yeah the reason I said the thing before is if a 17 year old was dating a 12 year old you would wonder what was wrong with the 17 year old. Same with a 14 year old dating a 6 year old. Purely as friendship sure but even then it signals immaturity on the part of the older girl/boy.

Literally everyone thinks they are amazing and the exception. This is coming from someone who was recently young and hasn't quite got over it. Funny story I was actually on the other side of something like this. Not intentionally but I found out someone much younger was smitten by me. Since I'm not an idiot nothing happened.

However if I was to give you every single benefit of the doubt that exists you already know how to get around your system. That said, and I mean this in the nicest way possible. If you couldn't work out how to do it yourself you might not be ready for a relatively pure relationship.

 

[Ex-User (12972)]

Well, can we just permanently ban me from here?

 

[Reluctantly]

Damn, I want to tell you how to do this, but if you're like 13 or something, it's really fucking creepy and I'd feel terrible hearing that something happened down the line. Since I imagine you will figure this out anyway, just be careful if you're really young.

 

[Ex-User (12972)]

Damn, I want to tell you how to do this, but if you're like 13 or something, it's really fucking creepy and I'd feel terrible hearing that something happened down the line. Since I imagine you will figure this out anyway, just be careful if you're really young.

If you've any advice, I'd love to hear it.