Why do women on the internet identify themselves?

[Architect]

The "New Girl" thread, by "Wrestler Girl" no less (or some variation) prompted this. I've wondered for a long time why women feel compelled to identify themselves as female on the internet. It dates back to the early days even, back then you'd see "techguurl" and such nonsense. You rarely see "techguy" or variations.

 

[redbaron]

Everyone automatically assumes people on the internet are male, unless otherwise indicated.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Probably because they are used to being identified as women when they communicate and everyone assume people on the internet are male.

Of course it can be done to get special treatment as well.

 

[redbaron]

It's also to annoy Architect specifically.

 

[Flawed_Ravvn]

Why shouldn't we identify ourselves as male or female?

I just don't like knowing whether or not someone is a male or female. If you know them as male or female, then it makes it easier to know whether you should say he, she, his, her, all those words.

 

[Hawkeye]

There is a member browsing the forum right now called TheManBeyond.

 

[The Void]

They are actually males identifying as females to troll everyone...

 

[Analyzer]

Feminism(and its influence direct or indirect) in general has been huge in the last 50+ years or so. Men are irreplaceable, prone to violence while woman are special and need to be considered so. Look at recent Hollywood movies for evidence.

 

[Jennywocky]

It's also to annoy Architect specifically.

It's true. I wouldn't call myself Jimmywocky if my name were James... but I enjoy the deep shade of crimson that rolls over Architect's avatar when he becomes perplexed.

There is a member browsing the forum right now called TheManBeyond.

... which maybe means the question is why men don't notice when men specify their gender in their userid but they are very quick to notice when a woman does it?


As an aside, I get more annoyed when someone puts their MBTI type in their userid.

 

[Architect]

It's also to annoy Architect specifically.

It's grist for the mill ... It's not annoyance actually but a long standing observation I'm building on.

Why shouldn't we identify ourselves as male or female?

That wasn't the question. Women do it more than men, why?

They are actually males identifying as females to troll everyone...

This is quite common, especially on Google+ on non-U.S. accounts.

Architect's point shouldn't be missed, that more often, women identify themselves as women on the web, why do they feel the need to do this?

Precisely. The series of posts I've made about women is to point out that they're their own worst enemy.

 

[TimeAsylums]

Which women get the most tips($)?

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Can I get an order of wings, yes, female privilege and feminism flavored plz? ok thnx




Architect's point shouldn't be missed, that more often, women identify themselves as women on the web, why do they feel the need to do this?

as opposed to anonymity like everyone else.



...they don't want equality...they want to identify their superiority how much they can dominate the male mind simply by identifying as female.

 

[Jennywocky]

oh, stop trolling.

(and making excuses to show breasts. )

 

[TimeAsylums]

why women feel compelled to identify themselves as female on the internet [as opposed to anonymity]

making excuses to show breasts.

This^ is why they identify as female!!!!!!!

 

[kaelum]

Architect's point shouldn't be missed, that more often, women identify themselves as women on the web, why do they feel the need to do this?

as opposed to anonymity like everyone else.


...they don't want equality...they want to identify their superiority how much they can dominate the male mind simply by identifying as female.

Uh, I'll try to take this seriously----what female superiority? I'm of the opinion I'd have an easier life as a male. I don't mind sharing that I'm female because I'm used to the social rules that women operate in and I'm not comfortable pretending to leer at half-naked people in order to fit in.

 

[TimeAsylums]

Uh, I'll try to take this seriously----what female superiority?

People $ u2Sex

I don't mind sharing that I'm female because I'm used to the social rules that women operate in

That's the point, this is a different social atmosphere that you don't HAVE to operate in those rules, you COULD have (gender)anonymity.


They demand we know they are female

 

[Jennywocky]

Figured I'd give a little bit of data from the actual userlist here. Here's the tally for various strings in the usernames:

Girl = 28
Guy = 30

man = 44
woman = 2

male = 3
female = 1

Not sure what the gender balance on the forum that is.

(For "man," I got about 150 hits, so I read each one and only counted the ones where the string seems to purposefully designate gender and isn't some nod to a popular character. Give it a +-5 spread there.)

"Girl" seems abnormally high for percentage of women.
"Man" seems abnormally high for males.

But really, how many of the steady and known women posters on this forum have a girl or woman in their name? Polaris, cavallier, loveofreason, etc.

This^ is why they identify as female!!!!!!!

Why, so you can beg for T&A shots? Wowzers.

 

[RadicalDreamer31]

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...Maybe. But probably they just have no reason to hide who they are. I doubt anyone considers the advantages or disadvantages of identifying their gender. It's besides the point in their own mind.

 

[kaelum]

People $ u2Sex


That's the point, this is a different social atmosphere that you don't HAVE to operate in those rules, you COULD have (gender)anonymity.


They demand we know they are female

I don't want anonymity. True equality comes from being able to not hide who you are and still get equal treatment. See the repercussions of the "don't ask, don't tell" the U.S. military went through over a decade ago.

 

[TimeAsylums]

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+1

 

[The Gopher]

I predict 6 seasons and a movie for this thread.

 

[Cherry Cola]

It's grist for the mill ... It's not annoyance actually but a long standing observation I'm building on.



That wasn't the question. Women do it more than men, why?



This is quite common, especially on Google+ on non-U.S. accounts.



Precisely. The series of posts I've made about women is to point out that they're their own worst enemy.

What is so difficult to understand about it?

-Men are the norm on most places online. So if you don't want people to assume you're a man you've gotta be up front about it. Women just like men are used to socializing with their sexes known up front, nothing particularly strange there.

-There are pros and cons to being a woman online. Depending on what you are out for stating that you are a woman can make get you to where you want easier.

And how do you know that more women than men are up front about their sex when being anonymous=being a man? I think it is the case as well, but how do you know the ratio? How would you know an anonymous female to be female?

And what do you mean by "own worst enemy"?

 

[paradoxparadigm7]

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To allow your dick to rule you...This is and should be degrading to you. An admission that you'll do anything for pussy. Get the fuck out.

 

[kaelum]

*shrugs*

TimeAsylums, you're really of the opinion that men have harder lives than women in general? If having T and A were enough of an advantage, then how is it that most of the richest people in the world are men? (and why is gynecomastia such an insult)

 

[RadicalDreamer31]

An admission that you'll do anything for pussy

This implies that it is the pussy that rules

 

[Cherry Cola]

Ya'll gotta start by imagining how it would be like if people assumed ya'll were female.

 

[RadicalDreamer31]

Ya'll gotta start by imagining how it would be like if people assumed ya'll were female.

I like free stuff.

 

[paradoxparadigm7]

The "New Girl" thread, by "Wrestler Girl" no less (or some variation) prompted this. I've wondered for a long time why women feel compelled to identify themselves as female on the internet. It dates back to the early days even, back then you'd see "techguurl" and such nonsense. You rarely see "techguy" or variations.

I've not seen any evidence of women identifying themselves as female in the Internet and even if this is the case, is it statistically significant? Even if it is, the conclusions reached here is only one explanation. Were is the Ne?

 

[paradoxparadigm7]

This implies that it is the pussy that rules

No, a penis is always attached to a guy...

 

[RadicalDreamer31]

Where is the Ne?

This argument is so old, so ridiculous, so unresolvable...

Let's throw more wood on the fire shall we.
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[TimeAsylums]

To allow your dick to rule you...This is and should be degrading to you. An admission that you'll do anything for pussy. Get the fuck out.

To allow testosterone and our biological proclivities, oh no.

 

[paradoxparadigm7]

To allow testosterone and our biological proclivities, oh no.

Missing my point. Females have biological proclivities too. The difference is what do you allow to rule over you? Are you a man or a boy/a girl or a women? I'm talking about maturity and self mastery. (hint* that doesn't mean denying your maleness/femaleness).

 

[Deleted member 1424]

It is often relevant to discussion or experience. Men identify themselves just as frequently, but 'male' is normal and expected so no one notices. You quite frequently identify yourself, Architect. Pretty much every post you've ever made, quite forcefully, identifies you as a heterosexual male. Very few posters, male or female, don't betray their gender at some point. Your perspective/attention is where the difference lies.

I don't understand why women are expected to deny their own existence. We exist. The internet is not a boy's club. It is not reasonable to expect them to lie or to habitually conceal their natures; because being female is somehow abnormal.

You might notice that english doesn't really lend itself for precluding gender from normal conversation. In fact you can identify many females by the lengths they go avoid revealing their sex in normal conversation; men typically won't feel the need to do so. I am open about my gender, when relevant, because I recognize the need to normalize being female on the internet and I am distinctly interested in conversing with females with similar natures to mine. It's some imaginary, petty demand on the males that is 'observed.'

 

[Base groove]

I just don't like knowing whether or not someone is a male or female.

This does not make sense in the context of your post, at all.

Are you a man or a boy/a girl or a women?

Neither does this.

Pretty much every post you've ever made, quite forcefully, identifies you as a heterosexual male.

This is bull.

I've not seen any evidence of women identifying themselves as female in the Internet

You must not have read the post you were replying to...

 

[Jennywocky]

I predict 6 seasons and a movie for this thread.

Don't forget the action figures and collectible card game.

 

[TimeAsylums]

I don't understand why women are expected to deny their own existence.

No one is expected to. nor identify neither.

This does not make sense in the context of your post, at all.



Neither does this.

@BG IS IN THIS SHIT!!!!

 

[TimeAsylums]

I predict 6 seasons and a movie for this thread.

Don't forget the action figures and collectible card game.

Forum right now:

^

 

[paradoxparadigm7]

This does not make sense in the context of your post, at all.



Neither does this.

I was responding to TA's post "To allow testosterone and our biological proclivities, oh no." What doesn't make sense?

 

[paradoxparadigm7]

You must not have read the post you were replying to...

Archetict didn't provide evidence. It was his observation. I was commenting on this

 

[Base groove]

I was responding to TA's post "To allow testosterone and our biological proclivities, oh no." What doesn't make sense?

Well I will be honest ... "women" is plural. "A women" is not a noun.

Archetict didn't provide evidence. It was his observation. I was commenting on this

Observations are evidence. He did provide evidence. Do you know what evidence is?

 

[Jennywocky]

...even if this is the case, is it statistically significant? Even if it is, the conclusions reached here is only one explanation?

Archetict didn't provide evidence. It was his observation. I was commenting on this

Well, I actually bothered to provide some hard figures suggesting maybe his observation about usernames wasn't quite right, which everyone immediately ignored... which I find amusing.

Looks like people are just itching for an arena fight, accuracy of thesis be damned.

 

[Cherry Cola]

No one is expected to. nor identify neither.

Right but as Adaire said sex is coded into language. And we express our own sex more than we are aware that we do. Architect expresses the fact that he is a heterosexual male frequently, does that mean he feels the need to express that he is a heterosexual male?

And what then is the thread really about anyway? Names that express gender? Aren't they quite trivial seeing as sex tends to surface anyway?

 

[paradoxparadigm7]

Well, I actually bothered to provide some hard figures suggesting maybe his observation about usernames wasn't quite right, which everyone immediately ignored... which I find amusing.

Looks like people are just itching for an arena fight, accuracy of thesis be damned.

Thank you for drawing my attention to your count!

 

[Cherry Cola]

Well, I actually bothered to provide some hard figures suggesting maybe his observation about usernames wasn't quite right, which everyone immediately ignored... which I find amusing.

Looks like people are just itching for an arena fight, accuracy of thesis be damned.

If you apply a little sociolinguistic analysis to usernames the amount of names indicating male are like 10x those that imply female.

 

[Base groove]

Well, I actually bothered to provide some hard figures suggesting maybe his observation about usernames wasn't quite right, which everyone immediately ignored... which I find amusing.

Looks like people are just itching for an arena fight, accuracy of thesis be damned.

Pish posh. It wasn't ignored. It wasn't representative of the internet in general either.

Your 'hard figures' suggested very little except that people of both sexes readily identify their genders.

Note how I am not saying he's right.

Brash speculation based on personal observation is about as scientific as he's gonna get.....

Anyway, yes ... arena battle... I want it.

 

[paradoxparadigm7]

Observations are evidence. He did provide evidence. Do you know what evidence is?

Thanks for clarifying. I'm officially schooled by the term 'evidence'.

 

[BigApplePi]

Everyone automatically assumes people on the internet are male, unless otherwise indicated.

I right away assumed you were female. Did I get it rong? ... Oh. baron, not baroness. I guess I did get it wrong.

 

[Jennywocky]

I right away assumed you were female. Did I get it rong? ... Oh. baron, not baroness. I guess I did get it wrong.

I guess the bloomers could be confusing.

 

[Cherry Cola]

In this thread...

Indicating male sex:

Architect
Redbaron
Base Groove
TimeAsylums
Analyzer
The Void
Hawkeye
Paradoxparadigm7
Kaelum
Radicaldreamer

Gender neutral:

Gopher
Cherry Cola

Indicating female:

Jennywocky
Wrestler_Girl_97
Adaire

Gender and sex are not only expressed in absolutes or in whether we call one another he or she and the like. Statistically it also decide what type of language we use at large, our mannerisms, how we try to impress others, how we try to appear to others and by what means. Overt and covert prestige usage among other things.

 

[TimeAsylums]

In this thread...

Indicating male sex:

Redbaron [as opposed to baroness]
Kaelum [more common male name]


Gender neutral:

Gopher [animal]
Cherry Cola [soda]
Architect [profession/job]
Base Groove [?]
TimeAsylums [adj-noun]
Analyzer [verb-object]
The Void [noun/pronoun]
Hawkeye [noun/pronoun]
Paradoxparadigm7 [noun/adj-adj/noun]
Radicaldreamer [adj-noun/adj]

Indicating female:

Jennywocky [more common female name]
Wrestler_Girl_97 [girl]
Adaire [more common female name]

much better

 

[Base groove]

[?] love it.